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Old 02-16-18, 06:33 PM
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I am interested to see if there are any laws about storing your guns. For example lets say your kid takes your gun from home and goes on a killing spree. Should the parent be held liable for not properly storing and protrxting his/her gun.

Something somewhat similar to the way parents can get in trouble for their children throwing a party where underage drinking occurs. They can potentially be held liable. Would something like this appeal to people?
Only if the kid is under 12.

Honestly, my guns have been available to my kids after the age 12. They are actually numb to the sight of a gun. It doesn't intrigue them at all. I let them shoot guns as early as 5 or 6. I worry more about their friends because helicopter parents won't teach their kids about guns, how to check them, gun safety and the devastation a gun can do. So when they come here they keep looking at them through the case likes it's a porn video.
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Old 02-16-18, 06:59 PM
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My wife and I just renewed our CCW last week. Our original class was taught by a police shooting instructor at Owens Tech.
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Old 02-16-18, 07:15 PM
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You play into it so easy...


When you bring something to the table it will be a different conversation but until then....
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Old 02-16-18, 07:55 PM
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You play into it so easy...


When you bring something to the table it will be a different conversation but until then....
Indeed. Your contributions are most impressive.
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Old 02-16-18, 08:59 PM
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I just broke down the math for you in the post you quoted. They've spent $10 mil per year on average over the last 20 years. You got confused because you looked at a Presidential election year and saw it was higher than the average, which should be obvious.







A lot of people seem to support the 1st amendment too. Imagine that.



People can fund whatever studies they want. No one is stopping them. I think it's fair to question whether the Centers for Disease Control should be spending tax payer money studying gun violence though.



On this issue, you seem equally unwilling to offer specifics and equally reliant on platitudes as leftists. So on this issue, sure.
And people don't understand there is no 1st Amendment without the second Amendment
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Old 02-17-18, 08:51 AM
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EP you know you canít use anything from CNN while trying to build a credible argument.
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Old 02-17-18, 09:03 AM
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The source is noted.
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Old 02-17-18, 11:13 AM
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You don't ever help. Ever. Like canned ham.
You and your emotional claptrap strike me as someone that probably prefers sausage in the can over canned ham. Just saying.....
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Old 02-17-18, 04:27 PM
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Glad you stuck up for your buddy, would not expect anything less. Regardless, dude never brings a thing yo the table minus what he believes to be cool, sarcastic, one liners of junk. Guy follows me around like a weak nerd but again, I'd expect nothing less. Give him a smell and it is on. But you both agree so kudos...
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Old 02-17-18, 04:46 PM
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I was hoping for more of a humorous response........
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Old 02-17-18, 04:54 PM
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What could possibly be humorous about such a vulgar statement?
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Old 02-17-18, 05:08 PM
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You're right. Emotional claptrap is nothing to laugh at.
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Old 02-17-18, 07:35 PM
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I'm losing it...

Now let's watch fish troll me and kill another thread.

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Old 02-18-18, 09:02 AM
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I_B is still mad that I made fun of his meltdown over General Leia flying through space.
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Old 02-21-18, 11:56 PM
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Here's my attempt at some legislation...now to start, I've been around guns my entire life. I was paid to carry an AR for many years and still own one to this day. They're a decent weapon system but not great. They've unfortunately gained popularity in large part because of these types of shootings and people buying them after such events IN HOPES they are banned which would make them more valuable. For those that argue they're for hunting...I've shot numerous deer through the heart with them and watched as the animal died a very slow death. They aren't for hunting.

Now back to my legislation...Currently in Ohio you can be forcibly admitted to a hospital for homicidal or suicidal thoughts. That's the law. Once you're discharged you can walk straight to a gun store and legally buy a weapon. Hospitals can't report anything about about a patient because of HIPPA. How about we ask for legislation to make it so these people are reported to the ATF and their rights to legally purchase guns and ammo are stopped until they are cleared by a health care professional? Sure there's still going to be the underground market but what could it hurt? And yes, I know doctors won't sign off on these people because it may open them up to be held liable. Not sure how to fix that.
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Old 02-22-18, 12:32 AM
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As anyone reading this thread can ascertain, I'm on their side, but Loesch and Rubio looked like fools at the town hall tonight. Rubio reverses positions he publicly stated less than 48 hours ago. Loesch decided a CNN town hall is the time to start attacking the Broward County sheriff to his face and kept repeating "crazy" as a generic qualifier for what types of people shouldn't be allowed to own guns.

Just a complete embarrassment. Both the NRA and the Florida GOP should be able to find better people than that to represent them. Save a couple tweets, Trump is miles more eloquent on this event/issue than either of these fools, which is obviously saying something.

And while I disagree with them, the students are incredibly impressive and have every right to have their voices heard.
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Old 02-22-18, 07:09 AM
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As anyone reading this thread can ascertain, I'm on their side, but Loesch and Rubio looked like fools at the town hall tonight. Rubio reverses positions he publicly stated less than 48 hours ago. Loesch decided a CNN town hall is the time to start attacking the Broward County sheriff to his face and kept repeating "crazy" as a generic qualifier for what types of people shouldn't be allowed to own guns.

Just a complete embarrassment. Both the NRA and the Florida GOP should be able to find better people than that to represent them. Save a couple tweets, Trump is miles more eloquent on this event/issue than either of these fools, which is obviously saying something.

And while I disagree with them, the students are incredibly impressive and have every right to have their voices heard.
Who? To stand in front of those kids and the parents and tell them NRA BS?

Bottom line: it is WAY too easy for any disenfranchised idiot with a grudge to get a weapon of mass destruction and slaughter innocent people. Period.
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Old 02-22-18, 09:36 AM
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As anyone reading this thread can ascertain, I'm on their side, but Loesch and Rubio looked like fools at the town hall tonight. Rubio reverses positions he publicly stated less than 48 hours ago. Loesch decided a CNN town hall is the time to start attacking the Broward County sheriff to his face and kept repeating "crazy" as a generic qualifier for what types of people shouldn't be allowed to own guns.

Just a complete embarrassment. Both the NRA and the Florida GOP should be able to find better people than that to represent them. Save a couple tweets, Trump is miles more eloquent on this event/issue than either of these fools, which is obviously saying something.

And while I disagree with them, the students are incredibly impressive and have every right to have their voices heard.
What should they have said that would have made a better argument?
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Old 02-24-18, 10:55 AM
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A lot of companies have announced severing ties with NRA and discount programs for NRA membership. Interesting.
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Old 02-24-18, 10:56 AM
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It's not like the NRA is a for profit company. Who cares?
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Old 02-24-18, 11:01 AM
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Here's my attempt at some legislation...now to start, I've been around guns my entire life. I was paid to carry an AR for many years and still own one to this day. They're a decent weapon system but not great. They've unfortunately gained popularity in large part because of these types of shootings and people buying them after such events IN HOPES they are banned which would make them more valuable. For those that argue they're for hunting...I've shot numerous deer through the heart with them and watched as the animal died a very slow death. They aren't for hunting.

Now back to my legislation...Currently in Ohio you can be forcibly admitted to a hospital for homicidal or suicidal thoughts. That's the law. Once you're discharged you can walk straight to a gun store and legally buy a weapon. Hospitals can't report anything about about a patient because of HIPPA. How about we ask for legislation to make it so these people are reported to the ATF and their rights to legally purchase guns and ammo are stopped until they are cleared by a health care professional? Sure there's still going to be the underground market but what could it hurt? And yes, I know doctors won't sign off on these people because it may open them up to be held liable. Not sure how to fix that.
Uh as far as your hunting and shooting deer through the heart. Bullsht. You never did it. You may have hit the lungs, but you didn't hit the heart with a .223. The deer would of died within 50 yards. Fact

Why would anyone hunt with a rifle that puts an animal through an agonizing death? Apparently you did it numerous times! Liar
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Old 02-24-18, 11:14 AM
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It's not like the NRA is a for profit company. Who cares?
It speaks to the NRA falling out of public favor re: its position on gun control.
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Old 02-24-18, 11:22 AM
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It speaks to the NRA falling out of public favor re: its position on gun control.
But it's not. It's a few Companies, not mass amounts of people. I can almost guarantee the membership rises as legislators start running their mouths. It happens every time. I was an NRA member during Obamas run, now I am not. But I might again.
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But it's not. It's a few Companies, not mass amounts of people. I can almost guarantee the membership rises as legislators start running their mouths. It happens every time. I was an NRA member during Obamas run, now I am not. But I might again.
okay.

Membership likely will rise, but those people are in the tank for the NRA anyway, to shift away from the NRA position, itís those in between that need to change.
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Old 02-24-18, 11:53 AM
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Every time I hear the proposal to arm teachers, I think back to my school days and I can't think of very many of them I would adequately trust to handle a firearm.
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Old 02-24-18, 11:56 AM
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okay.

Membership likely will rise, but those people are in the tank for the NRA anyway, to shift away from the NRA position, itís those in between that need to change.
Lol what companies ditched the NRA? Lol.
Yeah the writing is on the wall now! Lol
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Old 02-24-18, 11:57 AM
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Lol.
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Old 02-24-18, 01:32 PM
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Every time I hear the proposal to arm teachers, I think back to my school days and I can't think of very many of them I would adequately trust to handle a firearm.
I wouldn't trust very many either, and few would volunteer to do so. But some are probably ex-military, other may have extensive knowledge of using guns.
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Old 02-24-18, 01:49 PM
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As anyone reading this thread can ascertain, I'm on their side, but Loesch and Rubio looked like fools at the town hall tonight. Rubio reverses positions he publicly stated less than 48 hours ago. Loesch decided a CNN town hall is the time to start attacking the Broward County sheriff to his face and kept repeating "crazy" as a generic qualifier for what types of people shouldn't be allowed to own guns.

Just a complete embarrassment. Both the NRA and the Florida GOP should be able to find better people than that to represent them. Save a couple tweets, Trump is miles more eloquent on this event/issue than either of these fools, which is obviously saying something.

And while I disagree with them, the students are incredibly impressive and have every right to have their voices heard.
In light of recent information the Broward Country Sheriff deserved to be attacked given the pathetic performance of his department both before the shooting where they ignored REPEATED, SPECIFIC warnings that this monster might shoot up a school and during the shooting where at least one and possibly as many as FOUR sheriffs deputies hid behind cars outside the school while kids were being murdered inside:

https://www.naplesnews.com/story/new...uns/366165002/

Broward County deputies received at least 18 calls warning them about Nikolas Cruz from 2008 to 2017, including concerns that he "planned to shoot up the school" and other threats and acts of violence before he was accused of killing 17 people at a high school.

https://nypost.com/2018/02/23/four-s...hool-shooting/

Not one but four sheriff’s deputies hid behind cars instead of storming Marjory Stoneman Douglas HS in Parkland, Fla., during Wednesday’s school shooting, police claimed Friday — as newly released records revealed the Broward County Sheriff’s Office had received at least 18 calls about the troubled teen over the past decade.

Sources from Coral Springs, Fla., Police Department tell CNN that when its officers arrived on the scene Wednesday, they were shocked to find three Broward County Sheriff’s deputies behind their cars with weapons drawn.



The ONLY embarrassment I see here is the sheriff of Broward County using the CNN town hall meeting to try to deflect folks from looking at the performance of his department.
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Old 02-24-18, 01:55 PM
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It's not like the NRA is a for profit company. Who cares?
I'm sure the NRA is shaking in their boots, I mean this must be what the 100th time they've been boycotted by the usual suspects? I suspect that the company's doing the boycotting are the ones going to get hurt the most. Boycotts can go both ways and when NRA folks start boycotting the boycotters then things will get interesting.
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