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Old 06-17-18, 09:19 PM
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Just a simple reference of those who seek out the easy way.

In the world of selfies, self gratification and play dough rooms I guess I’m not shocked most can’t fathom the possibility of failing.

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I don’t see transferring to Hoban as taking the easy way, far from it. The easy way would be to stay with a mediocre program, and be a star. At Hoban, you will work your butt off and hope to earn a starting spot. It seems to me, a kid stands a lot more chance at failing, due to the high level competition at Hoban, than being the BMOC at KR. Kudos to the kid for wanting to better himself.
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Old 06-17-18, 11:47 PM
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I don’t see transferring to Hoban as taking the easy way, far from it. The easy way would be to stay with a mediocre program, and be a star. At Hoban, you will work your butt off and hope to earn a starting spot. It seems to me, a kid stands a lot more chance at failing, due to the high level competition at Hoban, than being the BMOC at KR. Kudos to the kid for wanting to better himself.
Wrong, I do not see going to Hoban as being harder. Sure, succeeding in Hoban is indeed hard. But I believe it is even harder still for a prospective athlete to try to help build the program where he is at.

Now, obviously, that is not always a viable option. Factors exist beyond an athletes control. Like coaching, administration, school culture, etc. There really is only so much an athlete can do for his team in 4 years. He does need to consider himself. I cannot fault someone for wanting to leave a program like Field, or Norton, or heck, even Coventry 6 years ago. I would have done the same.

However, when Im talking about improving the local program where one is at, Im not talking about those programs. There is a lot that needs to happen at those places for staying to even be considered a good option for the talent there. That is not the athletes responsibility no. Im talking about programs like The Coventry team of the last couple years, Woodridge, Rootstown, Manchester, Tallmadge, Barberton, etc. sure, all of these programs could do with some work or another, but they do show some promise. It would just be very helpful for the talent to stay. But it would indeed be quite a bit of work...you are trying to not just better yourself, but better a community.
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Old 06-18-18, 04:43 AM
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I donít see transferring to Hoban as taking the easy way, far from it. The easy way would be to stay with a mediocre program, and be a star. At Hoban, you will work your butt off and hope to earn a starting spot. It seems to me, a kid stands a lot more chance at failing, due to the high level competition at Hoban, than being the BMOC at KR. Kudos to the kid for wanting to better himself.
Thatís cute and all, but I would be interested to hear the last star of another HS program that transferred to Hoban and didnít start.

The only reason I quoted you was your reference about who would want to play for a winning team; yes only the weak who canít fight through adversity. Well if you wanna play for my Tigers.
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Old 06-18-18, 08:15 AM
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I donít see transferring to Hoban as taking the easy way, far from it. The easy way would be to stay with a mediocre program, and be a star. At Hoban, you will work your butt off and hope to earn a starting spot. It seems to me, a kid stands a lot more chance at failing, due to the high level competition at Hoban, than being the BMOC at KR. Kudos to the kid for wanting to better himself.
That's pathetic logic!

I am 100% for parents pulling their kids out for going elsewhere because their school system is awful. I am 100% for kids transferring to other schools because coaches only care about their kids starting or are abusive...That can be dangerous and toxic fast!


If you send your kid to a HS just for looks and he doesn't make it at the next level or doesn't show up at the next level (what we call a bust), that's on the parent and the kids! I can tell you I have seen kids team hop to public and private schools because of sports programs and become nobody's in life or at the next level. If you have that mentality, it will bite you in the ! Some of Brian Kelly's ND football players can tell you that!

I have seen it way too many times! If you want to go to a school/school system for better academics (athletics as a bonus), that's a different story.
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Old 06-18-18, 08:18 AM
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I remember Kent not that long ago being good and they also had a pretty strong youth program. Sure the Hoban kids would have helped. I donít like seeing a community team fall apart. I am kind of tired watching this guy stalk Hoban and Cougar to be specific and blaming them for the failure of a program. Hoban did not take the kids from Kent. The kids from Kent and Ravenna for that matter (both had an impact at Hoban) went looking for something better because the writing was on the wall and both programs proved them right.

Ravenna had an influx of talent that left Hoban and SVSM to come back and they still sucked. Bottom line is that they did nothing with the talent when they had it. It is a program problem. Thank you for backing me. I donít want to trash this Roughrider guy but enough is enough. Go be a part of the solution.
Would have helped? Ravenna was 6-4 last year. That's not too shabby!
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Old 06-18-18, 08:27 AM
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Coach will take what the defense gives him. If the load the box and go man he will give Hamm the option to check off and throw. Watch the WW game. Hoban will need to move the ball through the air to keep the defense honest. He has enough talent in the receiving corps to go up top or in the middle. I donít care how good the line and backs are you have to be able to pass.
Truth! You have to be balanced in the air and ground game!
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Old 06-18-18, 01:20 PM
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A question was asked somewhere along the way if Hoban was still on probation. The answer is yes....through June of 2018. I would expect the OHSAA will make an announcement in the next couple of weeks as to whether Hoban's probation will be extended or if they will be taken off probation.
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Old 06-18-18, 01:27 PM
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A question was asked somewhere along the way if Hoban was still on probation. The answer is yes....through June of 2018. I would expect the OHSAA will make an announcement in the next couple of weeks as to whether Hoban's probation will be extended or if they will be taken off probation.
Double secret probation next. You can only hope.
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Old 06-18-18, 02:15 PM
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A question was asked somewhere along the way if Hoban was still on probation. The answer is yes....through June of 2018. I would expect the OHSAA will make an announcement in the next couple of weeks as to whether Hoban's probation will be extended or if they will be taken off probation.
Or it will just expire like itís supposed to. Good pot stirring effort but probably nothing to see here.
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Old 06-18-18, 02:29 PM
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Old 06-18-18, 04:08 PM
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Or it will just expire like itís supposed to. Good pot stirring effort but probably nothing to see here.
Truly wasnít trying to to stir the pot...was just answering a previous question. If I was trying to stir the pot I would have added some commentary to my response.

I actually got a good chuckle out of Cougarís response.
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Old 06-18-18, 07:11 PM
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Truly wasnít trying to to stir the pot...was just answering a previous question. If I was trying to stir the pot I would have added some commentary to my response.

I actually got a good chuckle out of Cougarís response.
Fair enough. Truthfully I have no idea how the probation works. I know their summer practices were limited last year, I donít know if they have the same restrictions this year.
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Old 06-19-18, 06:23 AM
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A question was asked somewhere along the way if Hoban was still on probation. The answer is yes....through June of 2018. I would expect the OHSAA will make an announcement in the next couple of weeks as to whether Hoban's probation will be extended or if they will be taken off probation.
IDK that OHSAA is pretty tough and really crack down on those that bend the rules, lol. One of their more extreme punishments was when they gave a HC a one hour time out from being able to have any contact with his team, boy that coach never blatantly recruited kids to his school again. One coach moved a D-1 college kid across the state to live with him and play on his team, that poor soul couldn't be on the sideline for his first playoff game, I'm telling you that OHSAA is brutal.
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