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View Poll Results: Which is the toughest division in HS Football?
Alabama 6A 0 0%
California Southern Pac5-I + Bowl 1 2.38%
Florida 5A 3 7.14%
Georgia 5A 0 0%
Louisiana 5A 0 0%
Ohio Div I 25 59.52%
Pennsylvania 4A 0 0%
South Carolina 4A 0 0%
Texas 5A 13 30.95%
Other 0 0%
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Old 11-20-10, 10:26 PM
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State Playoff Systems Compared

While watching the college games today, I thought I'd mine the calpreps.com database to pull their playoff and ratings data to develop a spreadsheet to compare and sort the various playoff divisions.

I compared 320 playoff divisions (12,306 teams accounted for) among the states.

I'll be posting some various stats below, but meanwhile, you can vote which one you think is the toughest division.
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Old 11-20-10, 10:30 PM
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Largest Playoff Divisions:

147 Teams each - Pennsylvania 1A thru 4A
122 Teams each - Texas 4A thru 5A, I & II
118 Teams each - Ohio Div I thru VI
105 Teams each - Texas 2A I & II
93 Teams each - New York A, AA, B, C
93 Teams - Georgia 4A
92 Teams - Texas 3A
92 Teams - Florida 3A
83 Teams - Texas 1A I & II
82 Teams - Georgia 1A thru 3A
82 Teams - Florida 6A
71 Teams - Florida 4A
65 Teams - Florida 5A
64 Teams - Alabama 1A thru 6A
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Old 11-20-10, 10:32 PM
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Smallest Playoff Divisions:
(These seem to me like league championships)
(Only in CA do you get a chance to play farther if you get selected to a Bowl. The rest of them, you play 2 games and get your trophy.)

4 Teams:
NY - Monsignor Martin I & II ( Buffalo Area Includes Cardinal Ohara, Canisius & St. Francis, which often play Ohio's St. Eds and St. Ignatius)

6 Teams:
CA - Oakland-I
NC - NCISAA-I

7 Teams:
CA - Los Angeles III

8 Teams:
CA - Central VI
NY - CHSFL A (NYC Catholic League)
UT - 1A

9 Teams:
NH - I, II, & III
RI - I, III & IV

10 Teams:
CA - Northern I, II, & III
MA - West I & IV (West II & III have 11 teams)
NH - IV, V, & VI
NJ - NonPublic III and IV (Includes Don Bosco)
SC - SCISA-3A (Private or Prep?)
VA - VISFA - 1 & 2 (Private or Prep?)
VT - Div I
WY - 4A
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Hardest Division to Qualify for the Playoffs:

By Percentage of Teams Qualifying:

13.3% - 22.2% Massachusetts East I thru IV (18-30 teams for 4 spots)
17.2% Georgia 4A (93 Teams for 16 spots)
19.5% Georgia 1A - 3A (80-83 Teams for 16 spots)
22.2% Connecticut L, LL, M, S (34-36 teams for 8 spots)
24.0%-27.3% Hawaii - I & 2 (22 & 25 Teams for 6 spots)
25.0% Delaware - II (24 Teams for 6 spots)
26.4%-28.1% Ohio - Divisions I thru VI (114-121 teams for 32 spots)
26.7% Georgia 5A (60 teams for 16 spots)

By Calpreps Rating:
(i.e. if 16 teams qualify, this would be the rating of the team ranked #16)
(in parenthesis is the # of spots / # of total teams in division)

36.3 Ohio Div I (32/114)
35.9 Georgia 4A (16/93)
35.9 Georgia 5A (16/60)
34.3 Calif Southern PAC5-I (16/29)
31.6 Mass. E-2 (4/30)
30.9 Hawaii-I (6/25)
28.9 Mass. E-1 (4/18)
27.7 Florida 6A (32/82)
27.3 Missouri Div 6 (16/32)
27.2 Idaho 5A (8/18)
26.6 California Southern Inland-II (16/32)
26.1 Florida 3A (32/92)
26.1 Alabama 6A (32/62)
26.1 Texas 5A (64/123)

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Easiest Divisions to Qualify for the Playoffs:

100% All Teams Make it:
Indiana 1A -5A (64/64)
Minnesota 1A, 4A, 5A (56/56)
Illinois 1A - 7A (32/32)
Michigan 1-8 (32/32)
Wisconsin 1-7 (32/32)
Tennessee II-AA (12/12)
New York Monsignor Martin I&II (4/4)

84%-97% Kentucky 2A-6A (32/33-38)
91.4%-95.5% Minnesota 2A & 3A (64/67-70)
94.1% South Dakota AA (16/17)
92.3% California Central-I (12/13)
82.4% California Central-II (14/17)
80.0% Kentucky 1A (32/40)
80.0% New Jersey Non-Public III&IV (8/10)
80.0% South Carolina SCISA-3A (8/10)
80.0% Wyoming 4A (8/10)

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Old 11-20-10, 10:37 PM
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Number of Games needed to win a championship
(CA teams - does not include bowl championship)

2 Games: 39 divisions (508 Teams)
2-3 Games (pending a bye): 14 Divisions (211 teams)
3 Games: 44 Divisions (782 Teams)
3-4 Games (pending a bye): 22 Divisions (426 teams)
4 Games 79 Divisions (2847 teams)
4-5 Games (pending a bye): 13 Divisions (646 teams)
5 Games: 83 Divisions (4505 teams)
5-6 Games: 16 Divisions (1283 teams)
6 Games: 7 Divisions (448 teams)
6-7 Games (pending a bye): 3 divisions (440 teams)

320 divisions 12,306 teams total
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States that do not have a true state championship or have auxilliary divisions:

Regional Championships only:

California is broken into sections. There are ten sections total, with 50 playoff divisions. The size of the divisions vary considerably. Now, as some of you know, not all CIF Section winners get to advance. There is no official state playoffs. These "Bowl Games" are all that's left and are currently decided by a vote. The best teams, regardless of section or size, are put in the Open Division. The rest are put in a division based roughly on their comparative school size.
Central Coast I-IV, Open
Central I-VI
Los Angeles I-III
North Coast I-V
Northern I-V
Oakland I
Sacramento-Joaquin I-VI
San Diego I-V
San Francisco I
Southern I-XIII


Massachusetts is split into 3 regions:
Central 1, 2, 3
Eastern 1, 1A, 2, 2A, 3, 3A, 4, 4A
Western 1, 2, 3, 4
The divisions vary in size from 10-30 teams each, qualifying for 4 spots in each. The playoffs are only 2 weeks long.

New Jersey has 4 regions for public schools, most have 19-20 schools qualifying for 8 spots in each division.
Central I-IV
North1 I-IV
North2 I-IV
South I-IV

New York has 3 main regions:
Upstate: A, AA, B, C with 85-100 schools qualifying for 48 spots
NYC: PSAL divisions for inner city public schools
Bowl, 14 schools for 4 spots
Champ 24 schools for 16 spots
Cup 12 schools for 4 spots
Long Island: has 4 divisions I-IV with 28 schools for 16 spots each

Split Public/Private or Auxilliary divisions
(most are not competitive)

Alabama has the auxilliary AISA for private schools, which has 42 schools in 3 divisions. Although there are private schools in the regular 6 divisions

Georgia has a few auxilliary divisions:
GFC (Glory for Christ) 7 christian academy teams
GISA has 46 schools in 3 divisions, which are mainly private schools
ICS (Independent Christian Schools) has 7 teams

Illinois has an Intra-City division with 23 public schools that appears to be for charter schools

New Jersey has 4 Non-Public Divisions with 36 teams, with 10-16 teams qualifying for 8 spots each. (The Non-Public IV is competitive and hosts Don Bosco, St. Peters Prep and Bergen Catholic)

New York has a couple private school divisions
CHSFL - is for christian schools in NYC has 20 schools in 2 divisions
Monsignor Martin - is for christian/catholic schools in the Buffalo area and has 8 schools in 2 divisions

North Carolina has the NCISAA which has 23 schools in 2 divisions

South Carolina has the SCISA, which has 35 schools in 3 divisions

Tennessee has the II, which has 32 schools in 2 divisions (the II-AA is competitive and has Montgomery Bell Academy, Brentwood Academy, Ensworth, and Memphis University School) qualifying for 12 spots each.

Texas has the:
-Southwest Prep which has 15 schools in 2 divisions, each division has a 1 game championship
-TAPPS, which has 84 schools in 4 divisions, qualifying for 16 spots each

Virginia has the VISFA, which has 44 schools in 4 divisions qualifying for 4 spots each. The playoffs are only 2 weeks longs
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Enjoyed your write up. Nice to see the percentages broken down for how many qualify overall and out of how many.

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Old 11-21-10, 09:24 AM
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One of the things I think most interesting is that Ohio's playoff system is third in size of its divisions and is the most difficult to qualify for at the same time. The 36.3 calpreps rating needed to qualify is the highest in the land. Alot of good teams are left at home in Ohio after the regular season compared to most states.
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Worst Playoff Divisions:

Before I get to the best, I thought I'd throw out some of the worst playoff divisions. Here's some of the criteria I used:

1. Easiest to qualify
a. percentage of teams making
b. calpreps rating of lowest ranking qualifier

2. Easiest to win a championship
a. number of games to win
b. lowest rating of #2 seed that you'd have to beat

Note: Numbers in brackets [ ] are team ratings from calpreps.com
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Worst Playoff Division #1:

New York City's PSAL-Cup division

There are 12 teams that range in ratings from -52.8 to -15.9 that qualify for 4 spots. It only takes two games to win.

Round 1
Petrides [Michael J.] (Staten Island, NY) 22 [-19.1]
Lafayette (Brooklyn, NY) 15 [-25.5]

McKee Vo-Tech [Ralph R.] (Staten Island, NY) 38 [-15.9]
Stevenson [Adlai E.] (Bronx, NY) 36 [-21.6]

Round 2 Championship
McKee Vo-Tech [Ralph R.] (Staten Island, NY) [-15.9]
vs Petrides [Michael J.] (Staten Island, NY) [-19.1]
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Worst Playoff Division #2

Nevada's 2A

There are 17 schools that range in ratings from -53.1 to -7.1 that qualify for 8 spots. The 8th ranked team has a rating of -28.2. There are three rounds.

Round 2
Pershing County (Lovelock, NV) 34 [-7.1]
Agassi Prep [Andre] (Las Vegas, NV) 16 [-12.3]

Mountain View Christian (Las Vegas, NV) 41 [-15.5]
Silver State Academy/ROP (Yerington, NV) 38 [-10.2]

For the championship:
Pershing County (Lovelock, NV) 14 [-7.1]
Mountain View Christian (Las Vegas, NV) 12 [-15.5]
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Worst Playoff Division#3

California's North Coast Division V

There are 14 schools that range in ratings from -68.7 to 5.3 that qualify for 8 spots. The 8th ranked team has a rating of -38.8. There are three rounds.

Round 2:
Hoopa Valley (Hoopa, CA) 34 [5.3]
St. Bernard's (Eureka, CA) 0 -17.6]

Tomales (CA) 26 [-13.7]
St. Vincent (Petaluma, CA) 6 [-23.5]

For the championship:
Hoopa Valley (Hoopa, CA) [5.3]
vs Tomales (CA) [-13.7]

Hoopa Valley should be a 17pt favorite
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Worst Playoff Division #4

California's Central VI Division

There are 8 schools that range in ratings from -49.2 to -6.7 vying for 5 playoff spots. The 5th ranked school has a rating of -25.0. There is only one first round game, the other 3 had byes.

Round 2:
Strathmore (CA) 24 [-7.3]
Farmersville (CA) 21 [-12.0]

Orange Cove (CA) 15 [-6.7]
Mendota (CA) 14 [-11.0]

Championship:
Strathmore (CA) [-7.3]
at Orange Cove (CA) [-6.7]
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Worst Playoff Division #5

California's Los Angeles III division

There are 7 schools that range in ratings from -67.5 to -0.9 vying for 4 playoff spots. The fourth ranked school has a rating of -34.2.

Round 1:
View Park (Los Angeles, CA) 23 [-0.9]
Douglass [Frederick] (Los Angeles, CA) 0 [-34.2]

Animo South Los Angeles (Los Angeles, CA) 35 [-19.0]
Annenberg [Wallis] (Los Angeles, CA) 12 [-24.5]

Championship:
Animo South Los Angeles (Los Angeles, CA) [-19.0]
vs View Park (Los Angeles, CA) [-0.9]
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Worst Large School Playoff Divisions:

The ones above are obviously small school divisions, what about if I compared the state's largest division?

Massachussets W-1 (playoffs start Nov 30)
Longmeadow (MA) [27.2]
at Holyoke (MA) [3.4]
and
West Springfield (MA) [3.3]
vs Central (Springfield, MA) [9.4]
Most Likely total SOS points: 12.8

Vermont Division I
Champion: Hartford (White River Junction, VT) [32.8]
Had to beat:
Rnd1: South Burlington (VT) 36-7 [9.9]
Rnd2: Bellows Free Academy (St. Albans, VT) 33-0 [19.6]
Total SOS points: 29.5

South Dakota Division A
Champion: Dell Rapids (SD) [40.1]
Had to beat:
Rnd1: Milbank (SD) 24-6 [11.3]
Rnd2: Tea (SD) 31-6 [-0.4]
Rnd3: West Central (Hartford, SD) 32-26 [26.8]
Rnd4: Harrisburg (SD) 55-20 [24.2]
Total SOS Points: 60.9

Wyoming 4A
Champion: Natrona County (Casper, WY) [36.4]
Had to beat:
Rnd1: Green River (WY) 45-0 [-1.2]
Rnd2: Campbell County (Gillette, WY) 30-10 [24.0]
Rnd3: Sheridan (WY) 34-14 [22.7]
Total SOS Points: 45.5

New Hampshire Div I
Champion: Pinkerton (Derry, NH) [30.5]
Had to beat:
Rnd1: Salem (NH) 21-14 [21.6]
Rnd2: Nashua North (Nashua, NH) 7 [19.7]
Total SOS Points: 41.3

New York's Long Island Div I
Champion: Freeport (NY) [31.4]
Had to beat:
Rnd1: Baldwin (NY) 48-0 [-1.1]
Rnd2: Syosset (NY) 39-25 [12.5]
Rnd3: Farmingdale (NY) 36-33 [23.9]
Rnd4: Floyd [William] (Mastic Beach, NY) 62-35 [15.3]
Total SOS Points: 50.6
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Best Small School Playoff Divisions:

This is for the smallest division in each state. My criteria was more games against tougher teams. What I did was add up the number of rating points for each team played to come up with a total of rating points.

#5 Georgia A
Highest Ranked Team: Clinch County (Homerville, GA) [38.1]
Rnd1: beat Greenville (GA) 34-6 [10.1]
Rnd2: beat Miller County (Colquitt, GA) 35-14 [12.9]
Rnd3: beat Eagle's Landing Christian Academy (McDonough, GA) 34-27 [33.2]
Rnd4: faces Wilkinson County (Irwinton, GA) [35.8]
Rnd5: most likely face Wesleyan (Norcross, GA) [36.2]
Total SOS Points: 128.2

#4 Florida 1A
Highest Ranked Team: Trinity Christian (Jacksonville, FL) [47.9]
Rnd1: First Academy (Orlando, FL) 42-21 [22.0]
Rnd2: Providence (Jacksonville, FL) 42-41 [37.9]
Rnd3: faces Northview (Bratt, FL) [26.6]
Rnd4: most likely face American Heritage (Delray Beach, FL) [47.5]
Total SOS Points: 130.0

#3 Texas Div 1A-I
Highest Ranked Team: Canadian (TX) [43.1]
Rnd1: bye
Rnd2: beat Stamford (TX) 49-35 [31.8]
Rnd3: beat Quanah (TX) 56-15 [10.3]
Rnd4: faces Albany (TX) [39.8]
Rnd5: probably face Mart (TX) [33.0]
Rnd6: probably face Goldthwaite (TX) [36.5]
Total SOS Points: 151.4

#2 Ohio VI
Highest Ranked Team: St. John's (Delphos, OH) [59.2]
Rnd1: beat Edgerton (OH) 73-21 [10.9]
Rnd2: beat Ada (OH) 42-14 [35.3]
Rnd3: beat McComb (OH) 56-20 [38.6]
Rnd4: beat Lehman Catholic (Sidney, OH) 49-7 [37.5]
Rnd5: faces Shadyside (OH) [30.7]
Total SOS Points: 153.0

#1 Pennsylvania 1A
Highest Ranked Team:
Clairton (PA) [44.7]
Rnd1: beat Carmichaels (PA) 42-0 [2.5]
Rnd2: beat Canevin Catholic (Pittsburgh, PA) 47-0 [22.5]
Rnd3: beat Springdale (PA) 26-7 [30.1]
Rnd4: beat Rochester (PA) 12-0 [34.3]
Rnd5: faces North Star (Boswell, PA) [10.9]
Rnd6: most likely faces Farrell (PA) [38.9]
Rnd7: most likely faces Riverside (Taylor, PA) [33.2]
Total SOS Points: 172.4

PA comes out ahead because of its daunting 7 game schedule. However, if we dropped the first two rounds and went with the final 5 rounds, PA falls to third behind OH and TX with 147.4 points.

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BEST
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DIVISIONS
(Coming Next Week)

Who do you think it will be?
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Easiest Divisions to Qualify for the Playoffs:

100% All Teams Make it:
Illinois 1A - 7A (32/32)
All teams certainly don't make the playoffs anywhere in Illinois. It's hard to say how many teams are in each division because the divisions aren't assigned until after the playoff qualifiers are determined, but with 547 football-playing schools in the state and 256 playoff qualifiers, about 47% of teams make the playoffs.
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Smallest Playoff Divisions:
(These seem to me like league championships)
I would think that the DC area's Washington Catholic Area Conference (WCAC) would qualify in this category. There are eight teams that all play each other in the regular season, and then they all play in a bracketed tournament to determine the champ.

http://www.dcsportsfan.com/Sports/league.aspx?lid=6

Some people have described this as a "state championship," but I still look at it like a "league championship." If they played in a tournament with the Baltimore Catholic schools, I could see a "state championship" label being more justified.
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I would think that the DC area's Washington Catholic Area Conference (WCAC) would qualify in this category. There are eight teams that all play each other in the regular season, and then they all play in a bracketed tournament to determine the champ.

http://www.dcsportsfan.com/Sports/league.aspx?lid=6

Some people have described this as a "state championship," but I still look at it like a "league championship." If they played in a tournament with the Baltimore Catholic schools, I could see a "state championship" label being more justified.

You are right. The WCAC (Washington Catholic Athletic Conference) and DC division are a few playoff divisions I didn't include because calpreps for some reason calpreps doesn't linclude the information in the playoff division column on their power ratings page. I agree, it's basically a league championship. Good Counsel and Dematha are part of the WCAC, which is catholic schools and the DC division is for public schools. If I were a good team, I'd feel gyped not to ba able to play more than 2 games against league foes in the post season. They should be rolled up into VA or MD.
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I'd either go with Texas 5A or D1 in Ohio. Even 5A/6A in Florida are up there.
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Toughest Playoff Division #20:
New York AA
Champion: Rush-Henrietta (Henrietta, NY) [56.7]
1-beat Gates Chili (Rochester, NY) 66-21 [27.3]
2-beat Mendon/Sutherland (Pittsford, NY) 38-7 [29.8]
3-beat Irondequoit (Rochester, NY) 46-7 [32.0]
4-beat Clarence (NY) 42-34 [43.9]
5-beat Baker [Charles W.] (Baldwinsville, NY) 55-28 [43.4]
6-beat Troy (NY) 40-28 [40.6]
Total SOS Points: 217.0, Average: 36.2

Toughest Playoff Division #19:
Virginia Div 6
Top Ranked team: Battlefield (Haymarket, VA) [57.3]
1-beat Gar-Field (Woodbridge, VA) 17-13 [33.1]
2-beat Hylton [C. D.] (Woodbridge, VA) 48-14 [41.8]
3-beat Colonial Forge (Stafford, VA) 42-18 [46.8]
4-beat Lake Braddock (Burke, VA) 35-27 [50.4]
5-face Hermitage (Richmond, VA) [48.9]
Total SOS Points: 221.0, Average: 44.2

Toughest Playoff Division #18:
Virginia Div 5
Top Ranked Team: Phoebus (Hampton, VA) [64.4]
1-beat Warwick (Newport News, VA) 49-0 [29.3]
2-beat Great Bridge (Chesapeake, VA) 35-6 [38.9]
3-beat Hampton (VA) 12-7 [52.7]
4-beat Dinwiddie (VA) 21-13 [49.9]
5-face Stone Bridge (Ashburn, VA) [51.3]
Total SOS Points: 222.1, Average: 44.4

Toughest Playoff Division #17:
Pennsylvania Division 3A
Top Ranked Team: Allentown Central Catholic (Allentown, PA) [58.6]
1-beat Blue Mountain (Schuylkill Haven, PA) 55-20 [24.8]
2-beat Southern Lehigh (Center Valley, PA) 41-0 [28.9]
3-beat Abington Heights (Clarks Summit, PA) 54-14 [38.4]
4-beat Clearfield (PA) 55-20 [36.0]
5-faces Archbishop Wood (Warminster, PA) [49.1]
6-most likely faces Bishop McDevitt (Harrisburg, PA) [46.8]
Total SOS Points: 224.0, Average: 37.3

Toughest Playoff Division #16:
California Southern III (Northern)
Top Ranked team: Westlake (Westlake Village, CA) [61.1]
Knight [William J.] (Palmdale, CA) 58-8 [21.0]
beat Palos Verdes (Palos Verdes Estates, CA) 49-28 [38.4]
beat St. Bonaventure (Ventura, CA) 37-27 [56.5]
faces Oaks Christian (Westlake Village, CA) [56.0]
Bowl: Most likely faces Palo Alto (CA) [57.6]
Total SOS Points: 229.5, Average: 45.9
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Toughest Playoff Division #15
Florida 5A
Top Ranked Team: Aquinas [St. Thomas] (Fort Lauderdale, FL) [67.3]
1-beat Coconut Creek (FL) 59-0 [24.9]
2-beat Cooper City (FL) 49-7 [32.9]
3-beat Anderson [Boyd] (Lauderdale Lakes, FL) [45.1]
4-face: Manatee (Bradenton, FL) [62.0]
5-most likely face Lakeland (FL) [64.8]
Total SOS Points: 229.7, Average: 45.9

Toughest Playoff Division #14
Florida 4A
top ranked team Armwood (Seffner, FL) [68.1]
1-beat Sickles (Tampa, FL) 35-3 [27.4]
2-beat Hillsborough (Tampa, FL) 39-6 [46.4]
3-beat Charlotte (Punta Gorda, FL) 28-12 [56.0]
4-faces Dwyer [William T.] (Palm Beach Gardens, FL) [55.6]
5-most likely face Lincoln (Tallahassee, FL) [47.1]
Total SOS Points: 232.5, Average: 46.5

Toughest Playoff Division #13:
Florida 6A
Top Ranked team Dr. Phillips (Orlando, FL) [64.5]
1-beat Olympia (Orlando, FL) 52-3 [40.6]
2-Oak Ridge (Orlando, FL) 45-0 [38.6]
3-beat Seminole Ridge (Loxahatchee, FL) 38-28 [43.7]
4-faces Seminole (Sanford, FL) [50.5]
5-most likely face Central (Miami, FL) [61.1]
Total SOS Points: 234.5, Average: 46.9

Toughest Playoff Division #12:
Alabama 6A
State Champs: Daphne (AL) 7-6 [67.9]
1-beat Gardendale (AL) 29-7 [34.6]
2-beat Spain Park (Hoover, AL) 30-10 [41.8]
3-beat Clay-Chalkville (Pinson, AL) 35-27 [44.3]
4-beat Mountain Brook (Birmingham, AL) 44-20 [51.5]
5-beat Hoover (AL) 7-6 [63.4]

Toughest Playoff Division #11:
California Southern II (Inland) + Bowl I
Top ranked team: Centennial (Corona, CA) [68.3]
1-beat Yucaipa (CA) 56-14 [28.1]
2-beat Upland (CA) 52-23 [42.3]
3-beat Chino Hills (CA) 42-23 [51.2]
4-faces: Vista Murrieta (Murrieta, CA) [55.3]
5-(Bowl I) most likely faces Folsom (CA) [62.5]
Total SOS Points: 239.4, Average: 47.9

(note: all information from calpreps.com as of Sun 5 Dec)
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Continuing at #9, since I got my numbering messed up. I had counted a special mention team, which had the highest average SOS but did not win state. They weren't supposed to be part of the numbering. I'll list them last after the #1. All numbers per calpreps.com as of this morning.

Toughest Playoff Division #9:
Florida 3A
Top ranked team: Jefferson [Thomas] (Tampa, FL) [67.3]
1-beat Land O'Lakes (FL) 56-19 [34.8]
2-beat Pasco (Dade City, FL) 41-14 [44.5]
3-beat Vanguard (Ocala, FL) 49-27 [49.8]
4-beat St. Augustine (FL) 28-27 [55.0]
5-faces Norland (Miami, FL) [56.0]
Total SOS Points: 240.1, Average: 48.0

Toughest Playoff Division #8:
Texas 4A-I

Top Ranked Team: Ryan [Billy] (Denton, TX) [56.6]
1-beat Palo Duro (Amarillo, TX) 56-17 [19.2]
2-beat Del Valle (El Paso, TX) 48-35 [30.2]
3-beat Midway (Waco, TX) 19-10 [49.9]
4-beat Rider (Wichita Falls, TX) 46-15 [38.1]
5-beat Wylie (TX) 25-20 [48.5]
6-face Lake Travis (Austin, TX) [55.6]
Total SOS Points: 241.5, Average: 40.3

Toughest Playoff Division #7:
Pennsylvania 4A
Highest Ranked Team: La Salle (Wyndmoor, PA) [59.6]
1-beat Father Judge (Philadelphia, PA) 34-7[30.4]
2-beat Roman Catholic (Philadelphia, PA) 35-16 [38.3]
3-beat Northeast (Philadelphia, PA) 35-0 [24.7]
4-beat Easton (PA) 19-7 [46.2]
5-beat North Penn 38-35 (Lansdale, PA) [52.9]
6-faces: North Allegheny (Wexford, PA) [56.5]
Total SOS Points: 249.0, Average: 41.5

Toughest Playoff Division #6:
Texas 3A-II

Top Ranked team: Carthage (TX) [61.0]
1-beat Pleasant Grove (Texarkana, TX) 42-0 [21.4]
2-beat Canton (TX) 56-27 [30.8]
3-beat Madison [James] (Dallas, TX) 42-13 [34.0]
4-beat Argyle (TX) 44-27 [52.3]
5-beat Brownwood (TX) 35-28 [60.2]
6-face Coldspring-Oakhurst (Coldspring, TX) [54.4]
Total SOS Points: 253.1, Average: 42.2
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Toughest Playoff Division #5:
Indiana 5A
Champion Fishers (IN) [59.5]
1-beat Westfield (IN) 38-7 [24.4]
2-beat Carmel (IN) 17-14 [48.7]
3-beat Hamilton Southeastern (Fishers, IN) 28-0 [46.9]
4-beat Snider [R. Nelson] (Fort Wayne, IN) 47-34 [36.6]
5-beat Valparaiso (IN) 30-12 [44.3]
6-beat Lawrence Central (Indianapolis, IN) 38-19 [53.0]
Total SOS Points: 253.9, Average: 42.3

Toughest Playoff Division #4:
California Southern-I (PAC-5)+Bowl
Champion: Servite (Anaheim, CA) [70.9]
1-beat Jordan (Long Beach, CA) 41-14 [25.4]
2-beat Crespi (Encino, CA) 40-16 50.1]
3-beat Alemany (Mission Hills, CA) 28-21 [59.1]
4-beat Mission Viejo (CA) 41-27 [66.5]
5-Bowl: most likely face De La Salle (Concord, CA) [69.1]
Total SOS Points: 270.1, Average: 54.0

Toughest Playoff Division #3:
Ohio Div I
Champions: St. Edward (Lakewood, OH) [74.7]
1-beat Mentor (OH) 35-21 [49.3]
2-beat Glenville (Cleveland, OH) 42-22 [56.8]
3-beat Solon (OH) 42-14 [56.8]
4-beat Whitmer (Toledo, OH) 23-13 [55.4]
5-beat Wayne (Huber Heights, OH) 35-28 [65.0]
Total SOS Points: 283.3, Average: 56.7

Toughest Playoff Division #2:
Texas Div 5A-II
Top Ranked team: Guyer [John H.] (Denton, TX) [65.5]
1-beat Marcus (Flower Mound, TX) 35-28 [53.0]
2-beat Cedar Hill (TX) 48-35 [48.0]
3-beat Cooper (Abilene, TX) 55-7 [49.8]
4-beat Carroll (Southlake, TX) 24-14 [56.2]
5-beat Longview (TX) 28-27 [56.1]
6-faces Steele [Byron P.] (Cibolo, TX) [52.4]
Total SOS Points: 315.5, Average: 52.6

Toughest Playoff Division #1:
Texas Div 5A-I
Top Ranked Team: Trinity (Euless, TX) [72.8]
1-beat South Grand Prairie (Grand Prairie, TX) 36-16 [34.3]
2-beat Allen (TX) 37-35 [59.6]
3-beat Martin [James] (Arlington, TX) 42-21 [49.5]
4-beat Coppell (TX) 41-40 [66.8]
5-beat Stony Point (Round Rock, TX) 28-24 [68.1]
6-faces Pearland (TX) [58.7]
Total SOS Points: 337.0, Average: 56.2
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If you sorted by Average SOS, it looks like this:

1. 56.7 Ohio I
2. 56.2 Texas 5A-I
3. 54.0 California Southern I (Pac-5) + Bowl
4. 52.6 Texas 5A-II
5. 50.9 Missouri Div 6
6. 48.0 Florida 3A
7. 47.9 California Southern II (Inland) + Bowl
8. 47.1 Alabama 6A
9. 46.9 Florida 6A
10. 45.5 Florida 4A
11. 45.9 Florida 5A
12. 45.9 California Southern III + Bowl
13. 44.4 Virginia 5
14. 44.2 Virginia 6
15. 42.6 Louisiana 5A
16. 42.3 California Southern IV + Bowl
17. 42.3 Indiana 5A
18. 42.2 Texas 3A-II
19. 41.9 Arkansas 7A
20. 41.9 Washington 4A

The toughest Average SOS of any team to play 4 games or more was:
Wayne (Huber Heights, OH) (Avg SOS = 61.0)
1-beat #91 Middletown (OH) 21-0 [55.9]
2-beat #81 Centerville (OH) 36-33 OT [56.5]
3-beat #29 St. Xavier (Cincinnati, OH) 28-24 [62.7]
4-beat #105 Hilliard Davidson (Hilliard, OH) 28-14 [55.3]
5-lost to #1 St. Edward (Lakewood, OH) 35-28 [74.7]
Total SOS Points: 305.1, Average: 61.0

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I Hate Two Divisions

I despise the two division set up in Texas.
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I despise the two division set up in Texas.
Pretty sure that's a widely held opinion.
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