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Old 03-01-17, 10:57 AM
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Will Trump ever get out of campaign mode?
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Old 03-01-17, 11:10 AM
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going thru life as fat, drunk, and stupid....is no way to live.....



ok I'll bite , how was that a campaign speech.......


and what did you think of the response from the OLD Lawyer, in a diner in the middle of the heartland.....
Empty promises and little detail, like most of his campaign speeches.
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Old 03-01-17, 11:12 AM
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It's amazing at how small both literally and figuratively the Dems looked in the chamber. Trump is turning this town on its ear, another campaign promise kept!
Nice little piece here from The Hill. http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blo...o-divide?amp=1

It seems obvious that anything other than capitulation to Dem wishes will be called "divisive" by the Dems and their media partners.

To paraphrase the former First Long-legged Mac Daddy, "Elections have consequences, b1tches, and Trump won"

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Old 03-01-17, 11:14 AM
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Empty promises and little detail, like most of his campaign speeches.
BJay was looking for an eighteen hour presentation last night
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Old 03-01-17, 12:38 PM
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80% of the country disagrees with bjf.

Must be Wednesday.
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Old 03-01-17, 12:43 PM
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Empty promises and little detail, like most of his campaign speeches.
Really, is the old man in the diner, campaigning for what position?
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Old 03-01-17, 12:48 PM
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Really, is the old man in the diner, campaigning for what position?
The old fart was campaigning to be relevant.

Do the Dems have anyone under 69 to lead them into their fantasy future?
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Old 03-01-17, 02:04 PM
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80% of the country disagrees with bjf.

Must be Wednesday.
lol I can totally see you dead panning this...
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Old 03-01-17, 02:12 PM
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The old fart was campaigning to be relevant.

Do the Dems have anyone under 69 to lead them into their fantasy future?
I was thinking along similar lines. Do the Dems have anyone younger than Crazy Uncle Joe that can genuinely represent working class roots ? No wonder they feel the need to import voters.
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Old 03-01-17, 04:02 PM
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I think the problem is any D's that are younger are such liberal socialists they can not allow them to speak in public.
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Old 03-01-17, 04:06 PM
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Old 03-01-17, 04:09 PM
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80% of the country disagrees with bjf.

Must be a day.
fixed it
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Old 03-01-17, 04:09 PM
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Ratings down 6M from Obama's first congressional address

Trump must be throwing s**t all over the Oval
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Old 03-01-17, 04:10 PM
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Ratings down 6M from Obama's first congressional address
Why does this surprise you? Honest question. If we think about this critically, it 100% makes sense that viewership would be down.
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Old 03-01-17, 04:12 PM
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Because ratings/crowd sizes/overall stats are one of the most important things in Trump's world. He gasses himself up or tears others down for their ratings, but then this happens
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Old 03-01-17, 04:14 PM
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Viewership in 2017 cannot be compared to viewership in 2009.
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Old 03-01-17, 04:15 PM
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The old fart was campaigning to be relevant.
Lol

I thought Sen. Franken was driving the clown car, but there's no way he could top an opening line like, "I'm a Democrat, but first and foremost, I'm a proud Republican."

Did the new DNC chair proof read that?
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Old 03-01-17, 04:39 PM
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bjf struggling harder than usual today.
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Old 03-01-17, 05:59 PM
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BJay was looking for an eighteen hour presentation last night
Complete with a 100 slide Power Point presentation!
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Old 03-01-17, 06:02 PM
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The more I see this the more I wonder what were the democrats thinking? Of course this is the party that lost the presidential election to Donald Trump so "thinking" was never involved in their plan.
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Old 03-01-17, 06:42 PM
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I think the problem is any D's that are younger are such liberal socialists they can not allow them to speak in public.
Pretty much the case, I'd guess.
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Old 03-01-17, 06:44 PM
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Complete with a 100 slide Power Point presentation!
Nothing like a ton of specific data that one might "grind" through a different formula, by which one might declare the opponent a liar.
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Old 03-03-17, 08:40 AM
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All the people in favor of mass migrant immigration are the ones who won't have any living in their neighborhood.
are those the ones who live behind walls with armed guards and spend their days bitching about walls and weapons ?
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Old 03-03-17, 08:46 AM
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are those the ones who live behind walls with armed guards and spend their days bitching about walls and weapons ?
That'd be them.
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Old 03-03-17, 08:54 AM
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Because ratings/crowd sizes/overall stats are one of the most important things in Trump's world. He gasses himself up or tears others down for their ratings, but then this happens
again you talking SIZE....you know they got PILLS for that
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Old 03-03-17, 08:56 AM
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bjf struggling harder than usual today.
of course he struggles.....because he NOTHIN to bring to the table.....and he does have a problem with always talking about size.....I bet the boy has a BIG pickem up truck.....just to impress the Delphos women....
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Old 03-03-17, 09:41 AM
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and in order to fit a poorly constructed narrative, you neglected intentionally to embolden the text that research (and general experience and common sense and even Lotr) is saying is actually relevent to changes in the crime rate; jobs. Bury head much?

NO ONE SHARES ALL THE SAME VALUES! With your methodology, SWEDES couldn't immigrate to Sweden.

So, which values is it you're speaking of? Pick and choose wisely. Remember, you have a narrative to defend.
values like Sharia law vs democracy?

its common sense that a population which refuses to assimilate is a problem.

everyone goes to the cliched "America is a land of immigrants". yes and we are better for it. it worked because while they may have held on to a little Old World flavor they assimilated and embraced American values and culture. they didn't just squat here and try to turn this place into the place they left.
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Old 03-03-17, 09:56 AM
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That there's disruption isn't the contention (by MY posts). At contention is the cause of the disruption. Is the cause immigration stressing the employment situation (as my links support) or the nature of the immigrants (as the bloggers support and Lotr contends). The video, it's interesting but nothing I see as unexpected or anything to support Lotr's accusations of cause.

Those are the only debate points I've addressed, "cause and participants of disruption," not whether there are disruptions.

The links I posted say jobless native born are part of the disruption as they have been in the past, as has occurred in two previous immigration waves, which included one from Christian Eastern Europe. Why is the narrative of those jumping on the "immigrant culture/Islam blame game" band-wagon not able to account for this?

The problems is JOBS. The video supports that contention. For one problem mentioned with "assimilation," of a partial fraction of the immigrants from a very specific area, it states several, job and economic related causes. How is someone to "assimilate," if they cannot support themselves? I see conservatives on this board supporting liberal dialogue. How is someone to "assimilate." if they cannot support themselves?

As you say, this is from several years ago and more have been brought in. Conservatives do not believe that social welfare encourages, let alone permits someone to integrate, to assimilate. It encourages them to stagnant. This is the problem in Sweden, they pulled in people without having anything for them to do. They admit this. They are not hiding it. They are not admitting the problem has to do with the religious nature nor should they. It's not supported. They are not admitting that there are any more problems now then there were in previous immigration waves because it does not seem to be supported.

Yes, agreed, they brought in too many. Disagreed as to the basis and adjectives of the disruption. "Jobs," not "culture," not "religion." If they get the economic situation in order, then we can see if culture is an issue and if that is a result of adoption or integration.
whether its culture or economic you are making the case that mass unchecked immigration is bad. glad to see you support President Trump.

BTW Sweden is one of the most stable countries on earth...we aren't talking Greece here. how will we know when their economy is in order to enable the look at other factors?
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Old 03-03-17, 09:59 AM
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values like Sharia law vs democracy?

its common sense that a population which refuses to assimilate is a problem.

everyone goes to the cliched "America is a land of immigrants". yes and we are better for it. it worked because while they may have held on to a little Old World flavor they assimilated and embraced American values and culture. they didn't just squat here and try to turn this place into the place they left.
As someone with German heritage that lives in Cincinnati, and who has studied the city's history, I'm not so sure your claim is entirely correct.
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Old 03-05-17, 11:18 AM
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I always thought prisoners liked to get out of the cell and do menial tasks to break up the monotony. What the heck ? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.dfb38a9c4b96
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