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Old 05-05-18, 06:51 PM
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Incredible. Sub 46 half
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Old 05-05-18, 06:52 PM
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Wow, I guess Justify validated all of the bets on him. Boring when the favorite wins.

Good Lord, has Mendelssohn finished yet?
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He got clobbered and didnt like the kickback at all.

Justify ran on the worst part of the track in the stretch, crazy fast fractions, 4th race ever, didnt look like he was empty. He definitely was tiring but still had some in reserve. Even if he was after those fractions, he shouldnt even be in the money

Hope he wins the preakness so i can go against in the Belmont. Foundation will catch up eventually????

Futures paid. Left audible off every ticket, had to take stands somewhere but he cost me the tri. Oh well had a nice exacta and futures bets

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Old 05-05-18, 07:30 PM
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Wet track is going to make a deep field even deeper.
Or not. Justify made it look easy.
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Old 05-18-18, 09:09 AM
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The Preakness is tomorrow and no chat from our resident thoroughbred analyst?

"He came out of it really well"


I guess his workouts have been fine but I am praying hard that nothing comes up tomorrow during the race.
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Old 05-18-18, 09:25 AM
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The Preakness is tomorrow and no chat from our resident thoroughbred analyst?

"He came out of it really well"


I guess his workouts have been fine but I am praying hard that nothing comes up tomorrow during the race.
Dont even get me started on this subject.
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Old 05-18-18, 09:26 AM
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By the way it might be time to move the Preakness from Pimlico Race Course. The place is a serious dump and located in a really bad area of Baltimore. Things are so tough that they stage just 12 racing days a year. Laurel Park is not far away and in much better shape but Baltimore politics will probably keep it from moving in the near future.
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Old 05-18-18, 09:28 AM
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And yes he is fine. If anything were to happen this instance probably played very little into it
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Old 05-18-18, 09:29 AM
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Dont even get me started on this subject.
I know but what I am worried about is the PETA wackos are just waiting for something like this so they can jump all over the sport. I agree it is probably not a big deal but if there was even a sniff that he would look like this Baffert should have just kept him in the stable instead of holding court.
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By the way it might be time to move the Preakness from Pimlico Race Course. The place is a serious dump and located in a really bad area of Baltimore. Things are so tough that they stage just 12 racing days a year. Laurel Park is not far away and in much better shape but Baltimore politics will probably keep it from moving in the near future.
The Stronach Group renovated Laurel and are pushing to move it there. Pimlico is a dump. As you said the Baltimore mayor is an idiot and wants it there and will try to block it.
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I know but what I am worried about is the PETA wackos are just waiting for something like this so they can jump all over the sport. I agree it is probably not a big deal but if there was even a sniff that he would look like this Baffert should have just kept him in the stable instead of holding court.
Agreed the whole situation was stupid. Why bring him out in the first place? Why cater to PETA? They want to end racing but for some reason our racing gods cater to them.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/teresag...inner-justify/


Favorite part of that article is them stating they didnt give medication for 24 hours before Scollay saw him. if a horse was in some pain, we have now decided it is best to not give a therapeutic medication for pain because Mary Scollay and her PETA cohorts want to look at him. Scollay doesnt even practice anymore and wasnt well respected in most circles. Justify was already being seen by a well respected group of vets. So basically we let him potentially be in some pain longer than he should have because of PETA. Is that putting the interest of the horse first? We basically told Justify to suck it up big guy we put PETA's interests ahead of you.
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As for the Preakness this is a terrible betting race for vertical wagers, unless you think Justify loses or Good Magic misses the board.

I think Tenfold and Bravazo are somewhat intriguing to maybe get in the money. This looks like a two horse race. I hope he wins so maybe I can find someone in the Belmont to beat him at good value.

It has been raining for like the last 10 days and will be sloppy again.

I may play a p4 but even then i doubt it. I have some other plays at different tracks i like this weekend. Will certainly watch but this is a hard pass for me as of right now

If you play against Justify your angle is hoping he regresses from his prior form because he has ran 4 times since Feb 18th. Foundation will probably catch up to him in the Belmont.

Just not a good field to think anyone other than Good Magic has a shot and at around 5/2 I don't think he offers much value either.
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I can see why Baffert likes to show him off though, this horse certainly passes the look test.
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Old 05-18-18, 10:07 AM
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Old 05-19-18, 08:24 AM
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at work today, so i only did one ticket on the preakness 2 ex all/all hoping for the long shot to upset the field. interesting story from derby about 2 hours before the race i get a phone call from my brother he said who do u like i said justify is the best but im going with the 14 horse , he said im in a small racino is west virgina i got 1000 to bet on a horse i said if you got any balls you put 1000 to win on 7 and come to outside part of the casino by the dog track with a bucket of beer for me . we was both at the same casino un plan and i saw him make his first bet , which i did for him 1000 to win on the 7 . 2 hours after the race my group of 20 had 8 security guards watching every move we made because the beers my brother bought after he cashed his ticket was awesome .
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Old 05-19-18, 09:31 AM
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Hahahah thats awesome man!!! 14 hole is the post of the death by the way. The space between the main gate and the aux gate causes those outside horses to veer hard to the inside. Has screwed Mendelssohn, Classic Empire and many others.
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Old 05-19-18, 09:32 AM
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What racino were you at? I have been to Mountaineer one too many times lol
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Old 05-19-18, 09:39 AM
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If i were to play, which I most likely wont, I would try to get Good magic out of 2nd position and maybe even off the board.

Maybe look for Lone Sailor Bravazo and maybe even Tenfold to get in the super/trifecta. Wont pay much but if you did it on the cheap and loaded up you could hit a bunch of times

Something like this

7/2,8,/2,5,8/2,5,6,8

That throws Good Magic out of 2nd but in for 3rd and 4th. That ticket costs 8 bucks for a dollar and if it were to come in it would pay around 60-80 bucks for a dollar.

I dont like the card, I dont like the track, I dont like the rain. Probably best i hold on to my money for the absolutely stacked Belmont card.

Seems likely it comes in chalky and I love to beat favorites, but I just dont see it. Anything is possible though. Good luck vikes!

2nd place finishers in the Derby historically havent run well in the Preakness but this field is so weak it seems likely they run 1-2 again. Chad Brown is a disciple of Bobby Frankel and doesnt like wheeling horses back on 2 weeks rest so there may be some reason in trying to beat Good Magic
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Old 05-19-18, 10:33 AM
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What racino were you at? I have been to Mountaineer one too many times lol
Mardi Gras casino and resort. nice little place been going last 5 years same group. alsways sit out side reguardless of weather nice small patio and they open the bar for us. nice casino as well . not to big / small . live dogs racing at 730 . seems like they start a new 50$ buy in every 2 hours . the report i got is good maj. lost weight from the derby and looks beaten up . i like both Wayne Lucas horse at the price both. hoping for a shot on top im chasing i know it but when i discover this bet 3 years ago it paid me 9600$ with a 50-1 on top of a 12-1
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Old 05-19-18, 01:50 PM
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Brandon Stauble had an interesting take. With Justify weighing so much and the track being much deeper than Churchill he could struggle with it.

As i said I hope he wins bc I want to get a nice payout on Belmont day.
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I got sucked into splitting a p5 with a friend on the cheap

3/2,4,5,9/1,3,7,11,13/2,8/5,7

Not going to pay anything and probably a waste of 40 bucks on my end.
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Old 05-19-18, 03:17 PM
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Pretty chalky so far today

10th race had the highest priced winner of the day paying $7.80.
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Old 05-19-18, 04:36 PM
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Played one p3 at churchill and it will probably pay more than the p5 at pimlico.
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Nobody is making up any ground on the dirt. Speed is killing it. Chalk all day. Glad i skipped this for the most part except for a small p5 that i might be lucky to get my money back on
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The Stronach Group renovated Laurel and are pushing to move it there....
That's not what I heard.

I heard it was Yanny, not Laurel.
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Can anyone see the track?
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That's not what I heard.

I heard it was Yanny, not Laurel.
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Old 05-19-18, 04:53 PM
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As of right now a Justify Good Magic exacta pays $7 for 2 bucks. Higher than i thought. Was expecting around 4, will probably go down
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Old 05-19-18, 06:01 PM
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Awesome race. On to the Belmont
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Glad i passed on the day but I would have nailed that race. My idea, as I posted above, was to get Good Magic out of the exacta/trifecta and use long shots like Lone Sailor, Bravazo and Tenfold. Lone Sailor didnt really run big but the other two rounded out the trifecta
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