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Old 04-12-18, 09:17 AM
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The expanse is back! It premiered last night on SyFi and I'll be watching it tonight. I'll give you my review tomorrow.
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Old 04-12-18, 04:03 PM
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I'll have to track it down.

Altered Carbon has a similar game, from a science and a technology POV in story and in the effort put into the show.
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Old 04-13-18, 06:31 AM
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Excellent kickoff to season 3 for this great science fiction series. They did a nice job of establishing three separate narratives and it looks like they've further upgraded the production design & special effects. And as expected the Avasarala character steals every scene she is in.

If you haven't watched this series yet you might want to check it out. I would recommend you binge watch the first FOUR episodes of season 1 as the Expanse doesn't really get going until episodes 3 & 4.

As an aside I just finished reading book 7 in the series and can say that the story remains alive and well and in fact is getting even better as they continue to expand its scope.
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Old 04-13-18, 10:37 AM
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avasarala: not a fan of the actor but it doesn't detract much for me. Hard to imagine in what way they could have upped the game on production design and it probably won't show on my laptop but still looking forward to it. The space battles they had, what, last season? Amazing.

Agree on the need to binge season 1 as it does take awhile to get to the point.
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Old 04-13-18, 11:32 AM
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Season 3, episode 1: Felt most of the scenes on the Rocinante were pretty boring and not of much use but the rest was good. Have always enjoyed seeing the political maneuvering more than the ship drama
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Old 04-13-18, 04:19 PM
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I can see that. But those slow scenes this episode did seem to have a purpose. Jim has been leader in name only, Naomi being the real person the crew followed. They did a decent job this episode of using her betrayal and Jim's recognition the desires of the crew to "make a difference" to turn him into the true leader. She said Tycho and lay low. With no consultation, he said no, they're going to try and find the daughter.

Episodic planning isn't the writers' strong suit, for sure. The season long stories are good but individual episodes dont seem to have those emotional rides. Some good lines and I think the over all story arc is made worth waiting for.

They'll occasionally do something dumb in the scenes meant to summarize to the viewer what's going on (The Sec Gen Council meeting) or to move the plot along but the protagonists, the actors, continue to be the only weak points for ME. Jim particularly but I did like Avasarala more. Supporting characters and actors, I enjoy immensely. That was a good team on the yacht.



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Old 04-14-18, 11:48 AM
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Yeah I think the writing is fine but the actor who plays Jim makes me cringe a bit. Naomi at times as well
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Old 05-06-18, 08:39 PM
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Eps 2-4 were much better stand alone. I'm still not much a fan of the leads but the supporting crowd keeps getting better. THey're doing a good "GOT," finding different ways to pair up the characters and it's working. Keeping with the GOT comparisons, I think the female characters are stronger here. I like Christie as Phasma but think Frankie Adams would have killed in that role and made for good Fett rumoring.
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Old 05-06-18, 10:23 PM
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Old 05-07-18, 07:22 AM
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I agree that the season is coming along nicely and is building up momentum fast. The ending of the last episode was both horrific and a great way to spotlight the impact of the proto molecule.

As someone who has read the books I think that the actors playing Naomi & Jim are only average but they nailed it with Amos & Alex. Amos continues to have the best lines.

What I like the best about the Expanse though is that of all the science fiction on TV and at the movies this one is the most "pure" and original. Overall it's a very good extrapolation of the potential technology AND cultures of the future.
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Old 05-07-18, 10:03 AM
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though they do do the obligatory "sound in space." Really, the accurate silence was fine when a movie first did it, but it's not as fun.


And maybe its the new drivers on my laptop or maybe as you said, but the graphics are even more stunning. Even the city. Merging of graphics and reality is hard to differentiate.

"Brienne of Mars," lol. I like it!

Cara Gee/Drummer is another female bad-azz that comes off believable. They don't go out of their way to tell you a character is bad-azz, they show it or act it. Gee's expression and posture alone say, "don't mess."

The new guy, Dr Prax I think they've merged in well. The whole running kitchen gag is fun.
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Old 05-12-18, 05:02 PM
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canceled. Being shopped around. Hopefully they'll find someone that has supported the budgets as well as SyFy, and get better at writing episodic tv (which got better maybe too late). The alternative is one of the binge networks.

I think if they go binge, they should reedit the entire first season to get that moving faster and make clearer the conflicts, early on. They also kind of left Venus somewhere in season 2 and it's the big show.
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Old 05-13-18, 08:01 AM
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Unfortunate but not unexpected. The issue was the agreement between the shows producers and SyFy which limited the networks ability to make money beyond the "live" showings:

http://deadline.com/2018/05/the-expa...ed-1202388026/

The good news is that in the current market there's a very good chance this show will get picked up. The books alone provide another 5 seasons of material and I suspect that in syndication the show will grow an audience.

For the SyFy channel it's unfortunate they couldn't be more patient for what IMO was their best pure SCIENCE FICTION series. Slowly but surely SyFy is going the way of MTV (not so many music videos) - not a lot of science fiction but here's always Sharknado!
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Old 05-27-18, 08:26 PM
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Old 05-28-18, 06:53 AM
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Here's more on the good news. Jeff Bezos is a big fan:

http://deadline.com/2018/05/the-expa...on-1202398511/

As an aside, last weeks episode was outstanding as season 3 is now firing on all cylinders!
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Old 05-28-18, 11:21 AM
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Old 07-02-18, 07:19 PM
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Well the Expanse has completed it's 3rd & final season on SyFy and it went out with a big bang. An outstanding season that got better as it went along. Easily the best hard science fiction show on TV. Sure the ratings sucked but SyFy should have stuck with it - it represented what should be their meat & potatoes programing.

Now it's off to Amazon with a greatly expanded story line all teed up and ready to go. 1300 gates to new solar systems would suggest the show is going the Star Gate route but you would be wrong based on the books. Sure we'll be seeing new worlds but there's the pesky politics in the Sol system to deal with and they sure do get nasty - I mean REAL nasty.

There's also the question of who the gate builders were fighting and why they resorted to destroying entire solar systems in what appeared to be a losing war. The books are just beginning to touch on that story line.
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Old 07-03-18, 07:32 AM
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They already answered who the gate builders are. Vogans.

How did a declared strident conservative such as yourself, find that story satisfying? The most vain, egocentric, liberal all talk, do nothing character was given the save the day. Half the final was listening to that moron saying "I understand," "I've fought," blah, blah, blah. She wrote speeches, for self-serving purposes, to make it seem as if SHE was making the difference. Two million people died for her arrogance. She left her family so she could see something unique, be a part of history. SHE didn't expose Errinwrite, as she's given credit. That credit goes to the character left out of the story. And let's not gloss over that the other "hero" was another self-serving killer, Mao.

The person who should have been on that ship, with the character built cache to actually pull off the final plea was left out of the script, as opposed to someone that no one knew. Chrisjen should have been on the ship and the alterior story motive, should never have existed. The "reverend" never had a point to the story that wasn't forced and about the only way that can be redeemed is if she gets recognized for what she is and gets her comeuppance

They were warriers, all three sides. The story did a bad belly-flop in how it got everyone to trust and turn off the reactors. They trusted the all-talk, no responsibility liberal and the media. lol.

I agree there is a lot of promise in the story for next season. I like how they keep reinventing instead of beating the same horse that's the doom of so many great shows. I noted that in Holden's (snore, can the ring create a new actor) final monologue he picked up on Ashford's reasoning for trying to destoy the ring, the human's by their nature will make it worse if they can get past the ring.

Straithairn's acting is superb. Unrecognizable to any other character I've seen him do, an almost impossible task for a recognizable actor. Cara Gee is another who makes her screen time a pleasure.
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Old 07-04-18, 06:59 AM
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They already answered who the gate builders are. Vogans.

How did a declared strident conservative such as yourself, find that story satisfying? The most vain, egocentric, liberal all talk, do nothing character was given the save the day. Half the final was listening to that moron saying "I understand," "I've fought," blah, blah, blah. She wrote speeches, for self-serving purposes, to make it seem as if SHE was making the difference. Two million people died for her arrogance. She left her family so she could see something unique, be a part of history. SHE didn't expose Errinwrite, as she's given credit. That credit goes to the character left out of the story. And let's not gloss over that the other "hero" was another self-serving killer, Mao.

The person who should have been on that ship, with the character built cache to actually pull off the final plea was left out of the script, as opposed to someone that no one knew. Chrisjen should have been on the ship and the alterior story motive, should never have existed. The "reverend" never had a point to the story that wasn't forced and about the only way that can be redeemed is if she gets recognized for what she is and gets her comeuppance

They were warriers, all three sides. The story did a bad belly-flop in how it got everyone to trust and turn off the reactors. They trusted the all-talk, no responsibility liberal and the media. lol.

I agree there is a lot of promise in the story for next season. I like how they keep reinventing instead of beating the same horse that's the doom of so many great shows. I noted that in Holden's (snore, can the ring create a new actor) final monologue he picked up on Ashford's reasoning for trying to destoy the ring, the human's by their nature will make it worse if they can get past the ring.

Straithairn's acting is superb. Unrecognizable to any other character I've seen him do, an almost impossible task for a recognizable actor. Cara Gee is another who makes her screen time a pleasure.
For sure the "minister" is my least favorite character on the show. She deosn't really figure that large in the books. As a "conservative" I'm resigned to the fact that virtually EVERY series will have characters like this. The folks writing/producing the shows can't help themselves. What I find refreshing about the Expanse is for the most part they avoid this nonsense and stick to the books in presenting a cool science fiction story.

Straithairn's performance as Ashford is excellent. He absolutely blended into the scenery and you bought him as a die hard belter right from the start.
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