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Old 03-15-19, 05:00 AM
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The coaches I have seen utilize this scheme use it sparingly, probably 10% of the games. For one thing, you want to keep your slow down game unscouted if possible.

In southwest Ohio small school ball, teams who used to face a Jefferson Township would often employ a slow down. Small rural white kids had no chance running the floor with the teams Jefferson used to produce.

But slow them down, keep them working on defense, tire them a bit and DO NOT LET THEM SPRINT THE FLOOR ON A FAST BREAK and you just might knock them off. That is what I fear would be lost in adding a shot clock. I go watch those type of games intentionally to see how coaches will plan the game to give their kids a shot. With a shot clock, I could tell you how those games would end, no need to go watch a total athletic domination.

Some posters on here say these slow teams should learn skills better and the game fundamentals. I say a shot clock would aid the athletic teams and they would be the ones who would see a diminishing of skills.


So the better team would be more likely to win the game? Thatís like saying we need to play the Red tees in HS golf because it allows for more options
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Old 03-15-19, 06:45 AM
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So the better team would be more likely to win the game? Thatís like saying we need to play the Red tees in HS golf because it allows for more options
No. The better team is the one who figures out how to compete vs a superior opponent and ends up winning the game by using the limited skills they have and intellectual discipline.

If we make it only a talent contest that becomes about as exciting as a track meet.

Don't confuse talent with intellect, work ethic and discipline.
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Old 03-15-19, 07:06 AM
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You’re not wrong. However it’s all the college coaches care about
College coaches hate the AAU product.

I've personally heard Krzyzewski, Huggins, Boeheim, Few, et al... address the subject and all of them say it takes until into the Sophomore year to break the bad habits that AAU creates.

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Old 03-15-19, 07:11 AM
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So the better team would be more likely to win the game? Thatís like saying we need to play the Red tees in HS golf because it allows for more options
No, it's like saying that you always have to use a driver off the box or cannot layup on par 5's that are a full carry to the green. (favors the physically stronger player over the shorter hitting, precise, shot making player)
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Old 03-15-19, 08:31 AM
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Youíre not wrong. However itís all the college coaches care about
I know that's not true since I've seen multiple college coaches at HS games. But I imagine its tough for college coaches to recruit during the HS season since they are in the middle of their season too.
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Old 03-15-19, 09:04 AM
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Many look at the shot clock from just an offensive standpoint, I look at it as also rewarding teams for playing excellent defense. As previously mentioned, a good motion offense will be run until the defense makes a mistake, but why punish a disciplined defensive team by forcing them to having to defend for an unlimited amount of time?
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Old 03-15-19, 09:50 AM
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College coaches want their cake and to eat it too.

In one breath they will tell you that AAU has killed basketball fundamentals and IQ, but in the other, they will admit it has made their lives easier by being able to recruit multiple kids in one spot. Logistically, it saves them time and money.
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Old 03-15-19, 05:41 PM
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College coaches hate the AAU product.

I've personally heard Krzyzewski, Huggins, Boeheim, Few, et al... address the subject and all of them say it takes until into the Sophomore year to break the bad habits that AAU creates.
Except that they are all at the big AAU tourneys and virtually ghosts during the high school season. All big time basketball recruiting is done during the summer now. The coaches may hate it but it is where like talent competes against like talent and the AAU game, with a shot clock, more closely approximates the college game.
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Old 03-15-19, 05:42 PM
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I know that's not true since I've seen multiple college coaches at HS games. But I imagine its tough for college coaches to recruit during the HS season since they are in the middle of their season too.
Used to do it all the time. No where near as many as before AAU
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Old 03-15-19, 05:45 PM
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It's far easier to recruit AAU events due to them being in the summer, and due to the ability to potentially see several prospects you may be interested in. It has very little to nothing to do with style of play. It's far more convenient, and especially for coaches at smaller programs, far more efficient for your budget.

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Old 03-15-19, 06:08 PM
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YES. Make the game fun to watch.
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Old 03-15-19, 06:30 PM
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Except that they are all at the big AAU tourneys and virtually ghosts during the high school season. All big time basketball recruiting is done during the summer now. The coaches may hate it but it is where like talent competes against like talent and the AAU game, with a shot clock, more closely approximates the college game.
Recruiting is easier no doubt....

But they still hate what the kids bring with them (bad habits)
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Old 03-15-19, 09:35 PM
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YES. Make the game fun to watch.
They are fun to watch now.
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Old 03-15-19, 09:38 PM
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Except that they are all at the big AAU tourneys and virtually ghosts during the high school season. All big time basketball recruiting is done during the summer now. The coaches may hate it but it is where like talent competes against like talent and the AAU game, with a shot clock, more closely approximates the college game.
The shot clock isn't why they are there.
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