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Old 03-14-19, 12:39 PM
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I guess I’m in the old school way of thinking of build and make your own way
Yeh unfortunately that is the old school. Built by the private way a lot of the publics had to go that route to compete with these super teams. I'll take community teams and their make-up every time.
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Old 03-14-19, 01:43 PM
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Saturday 03/16/19
Regional Final
Green 53 vs Lakewood St. Edward 71 at CSU Wolstein Center

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Old 03-14-19, 04:44 PM
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That wouldn't be the best move Why go to a team with a star player already?
Next season is months away, we'll see how it plays out.
Most people dont think Livingston will be at Buchtel next year (think Cali with Bron Jr.) and in terms of coaching, Bluey blows Futch away.
Probably a bad move for Harris either way.
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Old 03-14-19, 06:19 PM
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Great win for Green.

Would like to see Harris stay at Hoover, but.you never know.

I heard there might be a couple of coaching changes in the Federal League, but nothing official yet

Good Luck to Green. Is that game going to be on TV???
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Old 03-15-19, 10:36 PM
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League awards were finally announced today.

2018-19 All-Federal League Boys Basketball

First team

Kaleb Martin, Green, sr.

Jake Maranville, Lake, sr.

Anthony Mazzeo, Jackson, sr.

Julian Jackson, Perry, sr.

Sencire Harris, Hoover, fr.

Kobe Johnson, McKinley, so.

Player of the Year: Kaleb Martin, Green

Coach of the Year: Tim Debevec, Jackson

Second team

Will Hyde Jackson, sr.; Donovan O’Neil, Green, jr.; Nick Mazzocca, Lake, sr.; Jagger Haynes, Perry, jr.; Christian Parker, GlenOak, jr.; Trent Jones, Jackson, jr.

Honorable mention

Garrison Keesler, Green; Jonah McCartney, Hoover; Sean Reed, Jackson; Landon Rose, Hoover; Hayden Junker, Jackson; Brent Walker, McKinley.
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Old 03-16-19, 05:41 AM
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League awards were finally announced today.

2018-19 All-Federal League Boys Basketball

First team

Kaleb Martin, Green, sr.

Jake Maranville, Lake, sr.

Anthony Mazzeo, Jackson, sr.

Julian Jackson, Perry, sr.

Sencire Harris, Hoover, fr.

Kobe Johnson, McKinley, so.

Player of the Year: Kaleb Martin, Green

Coach of the Year: Tim Debevec, Jackson

Second team

Will Hyde Jackson, sr.; Donovan O’Neil, Green, jr.; Nick Mazzocca, Lake, sr.; Jagger Haynes, Perry, jr.; Christian Parker, GlenOak, jr.; Trent Jones, Jackson, jr.

Honorable mention

Garrison Keesler, Green; Jonah McCartney, Hoover; Sean Reed, Jackson; Landon Rose, Hoover; Hayden Junker, Jackson; Brent Walker, McKinley.
Congrats to all the kids. Green's coach should have been COY.
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Old 03-16-19, 12:47 PM
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Congrats to all the kids. Green's coach should have been COY.


Could make that argument but voting probably occurred before regionals, Jackson won Fed title and Green was ‘expected’ to be a top team this year while Jackson had a lot of question marks. Could argue this might have been Debevec’s best coaching effort considering the graduations and lack of experience of this year’s team.

Player wise, have no issues with all Fed teams. I think they nailed it.


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Old 03-16-19, 02:27 PM
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Final

St Edward 71
Green 53

Green finishes their season 22-5 and Regional Runner-Ups!
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Old 03-16-19, 02:31 PM
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Congrats to all the kids. Green's coach should have been COY.
Why?? His team had the POY, all 5 returning starters back yet managed to finish in 2nd place behind Jackson in League play.

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Old 03-17-19, 07:04 AM
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Why??
He coached the best team in his school's history. They had a great regular season The conference winner is not automatically the COY. Also, he has persevered through some down seasons there and it would have been a classy gesture to see him rewarded for years of effort as well.
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Old 03-18-19, 05:26 PM
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He coached the best team in his school's history. They had a great regular season The conference winner is not automatically the COY. Also, he has persevered through some down seasons there and it would have been a classy gesture to see him rewarded for years of effort as well.
Debevic did the most with the least. I think he was the most deserving. If anything, they could have been named co-coach of the year, as Green's coach was right there with the job he did this year.

If they would wait untill the end of the season, they might get the big picture instead of only what they did during league play. Maybe that's their plan, anyways. getting Green past Mentor in such convincing fashion after blowing out Jackson by 20 in the District final should count, too. He did a great job tbh.
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Old 03-18-19, 06:15 PM
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Debevic did the most with the least. I think he was the most deserving. If anything, they could have been named co-coach of the year, as Green's coach was right there with the job he did this year.

If they would wait untill the end of the season, they might get the big picture instead of only what they did during league play. Maybe that's their plan, anyways. getting Green past Mentor in such convincing fashion after blowing out Jackson by 20 in the District final should count, too. He did a great job tbh.
Well said...Totally agree
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Old 03-18-19, 07:25 PM
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If they would wait until the end of the season, they might get the big picture instead of only what they did during league play. getting Green past Mentor in such convincing fashion after blowing out Jackson by 20 in the District final should count, too. He did a great job tbh.
The team that got beat by 20 had the better coach
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Old 03-18-19, 07:28 PM
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Who votes on Federal League Coach of the Year?
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Old 03-19-19, 12:07 AM
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Federal league is really good but not sure any schools ready to take the next step soon.
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Old 03-19-19, 06:46 AM
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6 on first and second team when you only play five guys is a joke. If the kid is not one of the five best players he should be on second team.
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Old 03-19-19, 07:30 AM
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BigWorm, no one does that... 6 on the team is low compared to most. Most leagues do 7-8. It's a TEAM not a line-up.....
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Old 03-19-19, 07:45 AM
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Mazzeo should have gotten District 4 POY he was the better player.
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Old 03-19-19, 08:52 AM
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Mazzeo should have gotten District 4 POY he was the better player.


Link to teams please.


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Old 03-19-19, 08:57 AM
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Mazzeo should have gotten District 4 POY he was the better player.
Well thanks for your opinion, everyone has one kinda like arses!
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Old 03-19-19, 09:23 AM
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Mazzeo should have gotten District 4 POY he was the better player.
Agree...everyone has an opinion....And I totally disagree with you.
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Old 03-19-19, 10:51 AM
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Link to teams please.


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Old 03-19-19, 10:53 AM
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Thank you...

Maranville received District 4 POY (Martin must be in a different District). Probably not YE stats but close enough https://www.indeonline.com/sports/20...etball-leaders

Mazzeo (18.0) and Maranville (15.8) both on PPG leaders board, Mazzeo on 3pt leaders with 42%, Maranville on assist leaders board with 3.9. Neither showed up on FG%, Rebounds, FT% leader boards.

Statistically, one could make an argument for Sencire Harris to get more recognition with 19.5 PPG, 8.3 RPG, and 3.7 APG (although he's not on any of the shooting efficiency leader boards - FG%, 3P%, FT% - so his scoring stats would appear to be based on higher volume of shots vs efficiency). He probably got dinged because he's a freshman.

With respect to All Federal League teams, every Jackson starter made it to an All Fed team and only two Lake players did. https://www.indeonline.com/sports/20...-league-honors
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Old 03-19-19, 04:04 PM
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The team that got beat by 20 had the better coach
It happens sometimes. Debevic won a state championship just a few years ago. He's still that coach, and somehow won the league with the least talent I've seen @ Jackson in several years. He beat Green to do it .Losing as they did in the District Final wasn't that big a surprise hindsight when one considers the Green-Mentor game. that followed. If you are naming a league award, perhaps the league results trump what follows.

Either/both coaches were deserving imho.
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Old 03-19-19, 04:20 PM
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Thank you...

Maranville received District 4 POY (Martin must be in a different District). Probably not YE stats but close enough https://www.indeonline.com/sports/20...etball-leaders

Mazzeo (18.0) and Maranville (15.8) both on PPG leaders board, Mazzeo on 3pt leaders with 42%, Maranville on assist leaders board with 3.9. Neither showed up on FG%, Rebounds, FT% leader boards.

Statistically, one could make an argument for Sencire Harris to get more recognition with 19.5 PPG, 8.3 RPG, and 3.7 APG (although he's not on any of the shooting efficiency leader boards - FG%, 3P%, FT% - so his scoring stats would appear to be based on higher volume of shots vs efficiency). He probably got dinged because he's a freshman.

With respect to All Federal League teams, every Jackson starter made it to an All Fed team and only two Lake players did. https://www.indeonline.com/sports/20...-league-honors
I believe Martin different because Green is Summit?
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Old 03-19-19, 06:16 PM
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Maranville received District 4 POY (Martin must be in a different District).
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I believe Martin different because Green is Summit?
Usually when we see "District" mentioned, we think of the OHSAA's six districts (Northwest, Southwest, Central, Southeast, East, Northeast). However, these awards are from the Ohio High School Basketball Coaches Association and they choose to split the state into 16 "Districts."

I haven't been able to find out what Districts correspond to what counties in the coaches' organization.
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Old 03-20-19, 12:13 PM
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Summit County is a different district than Stark County
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Old 03-20-19, 12:19 PM
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Summit County is a different district than Stark County
That is evidently true for the Coaches organization but it's not correct for the OHSAA.
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Old 03-20-19, 03:19 PM
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8 Fed Players and Martin First Team All-Ohio


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Old 03-22-19, 09:11 AM
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That is evidently true for the Coaches organization but it's not correct for the OHSAA.

Mack, we're talking about the awards... so the coaches' association... I know very well what the OHSAA districts are and the two are completely unrelated.
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