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Old 05-25-16, 12:05 PM
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Old 05-25-16, 07:04 PM
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big12 is acting stubborn and indecisive much like the big east did. Everyone can see they need to grow. The sooner the better. whichever school they pick will have the opportunity improve immensely. longer they wait the more likely top candidates will flounder and make the prospect list worse. uc's recruiting has gone way down. if they brought us in with west Virginia we wouldn't have missed a beat. Houston is riding high now but thats not realistically maintainable with the current conference. Memphis just lost their head coach, UConn continues to spiral downward. the longer they wait the less prospective programs will have to build on.
it also makes them far more likely to lose schools and put them in a real bad situation. a school like uc might not look like a home run replacing Missouri or Colorado, but how much worse do the cats look replacing Oklahoma?
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Old 05-26-16, 12:41 AM
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big12 is acting stubborn and indecisive much like the big east did. Everyone can see they need to grow. The sooner the better. whichever school they pick will have the opportunity improve immensely. longer they wait the more likely top candidates will flounder and make the prospect list worse. uc's recruiting has gone way down. if they brought us in with west Virginia we wouldn't have missed a beat. Houston is riding high now but thats not realistically maintainable with the current conference. Memphis just lost their head coach, UConn continues to spiral downward. the longer they wait the less prospective programs will have to build on.
it also makes them far more likely to lose schools and put them in a real bad situation. a school like uc might not look like a home run replacing Missouri or Colorado, but how much worse do the cats look replacing Oklahoma?
I don't see any schools not in the Big 5 dropping their interest in being part of one of those conferences. They've all but said they don't really want new schools to be competitive at the expense of the current schools.
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Old 06-01-16, 01:18 PM
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It's not looking good for UC or for any expansion talk for the Big 12 at this point.

This column is written through Burnt Orange colored glasses but I would say it is a fairly accurate picture of what is going on: http://www.scout.com/college/texas/s...-not-happening

What the author fails to address is the upcoming B1G deal will be the last with the old business model of wired tier rights but Jim Delany is also working in new cord cutting provisions that will probably be the model in the future. He says let's check back in 2024 but the thinking in the business is that by that time the new model will be something completely new and the B1G will already be reaping the rewards and the Big 12 will probably be chopped up and a distant memory.
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Old 06-01-16, 02:22 PM
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That article may be right, but that's the last source I would be getting my Big 12 expansion news from.
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Old 06-01-16, 02:30 PM
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Read that Texas is warming up to the idea of expansion.
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Old 06-01-16, 02:50 PM
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oklahoma needs to contact the bigten/pac12/sec. they're too good to bow down to texas. all the others should try to ride oklahoma's coat tails out.

i believe even talks of doing so will force texas hand one way or the other. right now they have the best of both worlds at the expense of the rest of the league. its unstable with conflicting interests, much like the old big east.

i even thought the other day about the possibility of oklahoma starting a new conference. obviously a last resort, but i believe if they could bring even a couple of the others along the rest would quickly follow suit. they could then pick uc/houston/memphis or whoever else they wanted and leave texas in the dust. highly unlikely to actually happen though.

question is at what point is texas name brand no longer enough of an asset to deal with their crap? the way they own texas tech and tcu is interesting considering those two schools would be most vulnerable should the big12 implode. texas enjoying this power over other in state schools is the only reason why i think houston might have a chance at getting picked up.
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It's amazing how a single school can hurt the rest of the conference both financially and competitively while remaining the main voice. I can see some schools looking to get out if Texas holds out and the SEC or PAC12 ever expand.

I'd use it as a bargaining chip if I were for expansion to basically say if it's not passed based on Texas' greed then the institution will look at other options that may benefit them more. Problem is you're going to need the other conferences to to accept two schools at the expense of others since they're already in their current tv deals.
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Old 06-02-16, 07:53 AM
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everything i've read says the longhorn network has been an enormous failure. texas got an awesome deal for some years still, but will not get anything near that in the future. they have an opportunity right now to force their conference members to make them whole and keep it that way for basically forever. once the current LHN contract is up they lose that leverage. short term they get the most out of it this way, with the exposure etc a dedicated network brings. but i have to think in the long run they're making a huge mistake. not to mention they'll end up either independent or in the sec/pac12 because the big12 cannot stay its current course.

basically texas is admitting to its conference "partners" that they care only about texas. the schools with other options all took them.
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Old 06-03-16, 03:15 AM
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everything i've read says the longhorn network has been an enormous failure. texas got an awesome deal for some years still, but will not get anything near that in the future. they have an opportunity right now to force their conference members to make them whole and keep it that way for basically forever. once the current LHN contract is up they lose that leverage. short term they get the most out of it this way, with the exposure etc a dedicated network brings. but i have to think in the long run they're making a huge mistake. not to mention they'll end up either independent or in the sec/pac12 because the big12 cannot stay its current course.

basically texas is admitting to its conference "partners" that they care only about texas. the schools with other options all took them.
It is failing but due to their contract they're still getting paid and I believe their stance is as long as they're getting their money they don't care. Until then there's no reason for them to expand and share the money. They know as long as the BIG12 is still considered a major conference someone will be looking to pick them up at that time.
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Old 06-13-16, 12:19 AM
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Looking like Ono is leaving UC to go to U of British Columbia. Certainly doesn't help the Big 12 efforts
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Old 06-13-16, 01:41 AM
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Can't really blame the guy for taking a move to Vancouver, which is a sweet city, but it's just a weird time for him to leave imo with all that's going on with UC right now. Strange timing
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Old 06-13-16, 09:48 AM
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Old 06-13-16, 10:02 AM
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Vancouver as a city is almost the complete opposite of Cincinnati, not sure about his politics or life style but Vancouver is very liberal and diverse, similar to Seattle. Also, maybe he is getting paid a lot more? Maybe a more prestigious institution and this is a step up?
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Old 06-13-16, 10:20 AM
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Vancouver as a city is almost the complete opposite of Cincinnati, not sure about his politics or life style but Vancouver is very liberal and diverse, similar to Seattle. Also, maybe he is getting paid a lot more? Maybe a more prestigious institution and this is a step up?
saw in another article he's getting paid more than double at uc what the previous president was paid at british columbia.

no indication that he was ever unhappy at uc, seems he's simply going home. cant fault him for that.
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Old 06-13-16, 10:25 AM
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saw in another article he's getting paid more than double at uc what the previous president was paid at british columbia.

no indication that he was ever unhappy at uc, seems he's simply going home. cant fault him for that.
You really cannot blame him for that but wait until he sees his tax withholding on his pay check. That "free" health care in Canada is being paid by someone.
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Old 06-13-16, 11:18 AM
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His dad taught there as well. Between the police issues and going home, I bet this was a no brainer.
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Old 07-11-16, 09:25 AM
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So what is next?

http://www.cbssports.com/college-foo...he-time-being/
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Old 07-11-16, 01:58 PM
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Stay the course.

I'm thinking the Big 12 is going to try and poach a couple teams from another power 5 conference that may not be happy with their current deal or give them an offer they cannot refuse. Either way UC is probably in the conference that is currently best suited to their level of ability and revenue capabilities.
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Old 07-11-16, 02:22 PM
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If they were smart, they would build a new conference.

Memphis, Cincy, Navy, USF, UCF, ECU, UCONN

Houston, Colo St, Boise, SMU, BYU, AF, SDSU

Those really are the best of the leftovers.
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Old 07-13-16, 10:55 AM
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Problem is the best of the leftovers dont make money. That would be the most spread out conference in the country for schools that simply dont have the travel budget. Especially for the other sports.
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Problem is the best of the leftovers dont make money. That would be the most spread out conference in the country for schools that simply dont have the travel budget. Especially for the other sports.
Agree. It would be interesting to see outside of BYU which of these programs football revenue is the strongest.

As for the other sports many conferences no longer have a true conference schedule, this is especially true in Olympic sports. Take a look at UC's swimming team schedule: http://www.gobearcats.com/sports/c-s...wim-sched.html There are no AAC teams on the schedule until the Conference meet but a couple close by B1G, ACC, MAC, Horizon,and even a SEC team. I think the smart move is to give each sport its own conference so that it makes University athletic budgets more sensible.
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Old 07-15-16, 08:25 AM
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It's not like the AAC is making money right now. That line up has more potential to make money ,better TV deal.
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As for the other sports many conferences no longer have a true conference schedule, this is especially true in Olympic sports.
Although USA Today's analysis was for the entire athletic department at each school, the largest chunk of it is related to football.

http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/

You can do a sort by conference to get everyone lined up. What really jumps out at you is the huge level of subsidies that the AAC schools' athletic departments are getting from student fees and/or the legislature versus the "Power Five" conferences.

Here are some of BYU's numbers, although it doesn't include any breakout of subsidies.

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Old 07-20-16, 12:16 AM
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http://espn.go.com/college-football/...ion-candidates

So expansion may be on after all? Very strange of the Big12 to come out publicly against expansion then reverse course two weeks later. Hope to hell UC makes it in. Would be nice to get a definitive answer once and for all.
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Old 08-11-16, 11:32 AM
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What's with this god awful trend of doing a color theme for every f'ing home game?
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Old 08-11-16, 03:25 PM
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What's with this god awful trend of doing a color theme for every f'ing home game?
It sells apparel, looks neat on tv and makes the fans feel more connected to the game.

All 3 of those were guesses. I think its silly and usually don't even know about them until i'm inside the stadium.
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Old 08-11-16, 03:29 PM
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It sells apparel, looks neat on tv and makes the fans feel more connected to the game.
An recruits love them.
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Old 08-17-16, 08:57 AM
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Very worried about this year's UC team. Caught a couple of practices and they look horrible on offense. All the QB's are turnover prone, the WR's are having trouble hanging onto the ball. And the OL has no depth whatsoever. If they lose either of their starting OT's the QB's wont stand a chance from a protection standpoint. I'm thinking something like 6-6 as of right now. If that happens, it needs to be the end of the Tubberville era.
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