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Old 12-16-16, 05:08 PM
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College football attendance in 2016: Crowds decline for sixth straight year

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Home attendance at all major college football games declined for the sixth consecutive year, though once again at a smaller rate compared to some past seasons.

Football Bowl Subdivision crowds averaged 43,106 fans per game in 2016,downby less than 1 percent from 2015, according to a CBS Sports analysis of NCAA attendance data. The 2015 crowds also declined by less than 1 percent after a 4-percent drop in 2014.
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School / 2016 Average
Michigan 110,468
Ohio State 107,278
Texas A&M 101,917
Alabama 101,821
LSU 101,231
Tennessee 100,968
Penn State 100,257
Texas 97,881
Georgia 92,746
Nebraska 90,200
Florida 87,846
Auburn 86,937
Oklahoma 86,857
Clemson 80,970
Notre Dame 80,795
Wisconsin 79,357
South Carolina 76,920
Florida State 76,800
Michigan State 74,667
Iowa 69,656
Arkansas 69,581
USC 68,459
UCLA 67,459
Ole Miss 64,910
Washington 64,589
Virginia Tech 63,043
Miami 58,572
BYU 58,569
Mississippi State 58,317
Texas Tech 58,250
West Virginia 57,583
NC State 57,497
Oregon 54,677
Louisville 54,065
Oklahoma State 53,814
Kentucky 53,643
Iowa State 52,557
Missouri 52,236
Kansas State 51,919
North Carolina 50,250
Arizona 48,288
Arizona State 47,736
Georgia Tech 47,503
California 46,628
Colorado 46,609
Utah 46,506
Pittsburgh 46,076
Baylor 45,838
Illinois 45,644
TCU 45,168
Rutgers 44,804
Stanford 44,142
East Carolina 44,113
Minnesota 43,814
Indiana 43,027
Virginia 39,929
Maryland 39,615
Houston 38,953
Oregon State 37,622
South Florida 37,539
Memphis 37,346
San Diego State 37,289
UCF 35,802
Northwestern 34,798
Purdue 34,451
Boise State 34,273
Cincinnati 33,585
Syracuse 32,805
Army 32,653
Boston College 32,157
Washington State 31,675
Navy 31,571
Vanderbilt 31,242
Duke 29,895
Air Force 29,587
Southern Miss 28,588
Colorado State 27,600
Temple 27,225
Connecticut 26,796
Wake Forest 26,456
Appalachian State 26,153
Kansas 25,828
Fresno State 25,493
Marshall 24,760
Hawaii 24,521
Western Michigan 23,838
SMU 23,712
Texas-San Antonio 23,038
Texas-El Paso 23,001
Tulane 22,718
Arkansas State 22,700
Troy 22,534
Rice 21,425
Wyoming 21,266
Ohio 21,190
Georgia Southern 20,819
Toledo 20,628
Louisiana Tech 20,412
Louisiana-Lafayette 20,224
Old Dominion 20,118
North Texas 19,878
Tulsa 19,234
Utah State 19,136
New Mexico 18,708
Nevada 18,501
UNLV 18,389
Texas State 18,120
Western Kentucky 17,705
Eastern Michigan 17,677
Buffalo 17,493
Central Michigan 17,408
Middle Tennessee 17,243
Miami (Ohio) 17,110
Florida International 16,789
South Alabama 16,250
San Jose State 15,419
Bowling Green 15,140
Georgia State 15,103
Massachusetts 14,510
Charlotte 14,192
Louisiana-Monroe 12,610
Idaho 11,190
Northern Illinois 11,019
Kent State 10,898
Akron 10,337
Florida Atlantic 10,073
New Mexico State 9,545
Ball State 7,789


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Old 12-23-16, 07:01 AM
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The Bowl games have the good seats empty down low,upper decks are embarrassing they don't want you to see how bad it is.
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Old 01-01-17, 11:41 AM
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Bowl game attendance has been bad for years, that is why teams like Ohio State get picked over other teams that just might have had a better season and team. Teams like Ohio State draw bigger crowds therefore they get picked for big time bowl games.
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Old 01-01-17, 12:27 PM
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Curious how much of the decline in average is due to adding new programs like Charlotte, Old Dominion, Georgia State, App. State, etc.
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Old 01-01-17, 01:14 PM
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Average game attendance in the Big Ten:
2013 70421
2014 66939
2015 65998
2016 65578

Seems to be a trend across all teams.
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Old 01-01-17, 05:05 PM
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Curious how much of the decline in average is due to adding new programs like Charlotte, Old Dominion, Georgia State, App. State, etc.
Interesting curiosity.

If I calculated correctly, the average attendance without the four you noted would have been 43,779 - 673 higher than the article's 43,106 average. Not considering those four programs, the 43,779 average would be at least 242 higher than last year's average, given this year's 43,779 average is less than 1% less than last year's average.

In that group of four, App State had the highest attendance this year, which was still well below the overall average. Assuming any other new programs did not draw more fans than the average (43K), the "adjusted average" would remain above last year's average. Thanks for the math exercise.

Corrections welcome! (One of my favorite work sayings).
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Old 01-01-17, 05:24 PM
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New FBS programs:
2015: Charlotte (14,192)
2014: Appalachian State (26,153), Georgia Southern (20,819), Old Dominion (20,118)
2013: Georgia State (15,103)
2012: UMass (14,510), Southern Alabama (16,250), Texas State (18,120), UT San Antonio (23,038)
2008: Western Kentucky (17,705)
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Old 01-01-17, 07:31 PM
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Bowl game attendance has been bad for years, that is why teams like Ohio State get picked over other teams that just might have had a better season and team. Teams like Ohio State draw bigger crowds therefore they get picked for big time bowl games.
Of course. They just pick the top four teams based on attendance
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Old 01-01-17, 10:42 PM
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New FBS programs:
2015: Charlotte (14,192)
2014: Appalachian State (26,153), Georgia Southern (20,819), Old Dominion (20,118)
2013: Georgia State (15,103)
2012: UMass (14,510), Southern Alabama (16,250), Texas State (18,120), UT San Antonio (23,038)
2008: Western Kentucky (17,705)
Since the four newest programs did not start this year (duh - I knew that), scratch my last post. Still, since all of these average attendances are below the average, the new programs affect the average some.

How much is a task for a spreadsheet vs. a calculator. Surprised (or not) the writer did not factor this into the "analysis". Many entertainment choices today, yet I think the numbers are holding up pretty good.
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Old 01-09-17, 12:44 PM
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I know the teams of the Big 12 are very unhappy with this trend ( although their main concern is mostly limited to their own league ). Can't say it hurts UC's chances because the names being mentioned all have problems for expansion consideration. I roll my eyes when Bearcat fans want to think they are on par with OSU when they average a third as many fans. To be fair, UC should be on par.

It's true that bowls would always like OSU, they not only buy tickets but bring thousands of fans that just want to be part of the atmosphere without actually going to the game.
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Old 01-09-17, 04:54 PM
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Of course. They just pick the top four teams based on attendance
Of course they dont and that isnt what he meant.

There is no doubt certain teams over the years have likely gotten the nod for certain bowl games due to their name and how well they travel.


NFL tv ratings were down this year, college football attendance down, HS football attendance down in the finals, some reports that youth football participation is down in recent years...


Maybe the peak has been hit for football popularity?


Over saturation def does not help attendance. $$$ as well.. Not cheap to go to a lot of the events.
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Old 01-10-17, 06:51 AM
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The Clemson coach thanking the fans at home that couldn't afford a ticket to come to Tampa,thought that was nice for the moment he was in.
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Old 01-10-17, 03:21 PM
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Of course they dont and that isnt what he meant.

Maybe the peak has been hit for football popularity?

Oversaturation. Primarily from HD television, and the hassle of attending games becomes that much more troublesome. A crowd of 50,000, especially with security screenings, 'clear bag rules', etc, just drives people to stay at home.

Secondly, ticket prices are still going up. Until such time as major colleges and NFL teams feel the need to lower prices to start filling in their emptying stadiums, we have yet to reach peak football.

But, if they don't engage the average fan in some way other than TV, they're going to lose the future diehard fans because they'll only know football from television and not experience it in person. That's the big problem.
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Old 01-10-17, 03:29 PM
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I'm a big sports fan and a college football fan, and I've not been to a D1 college football game in over 20 years. TV revenue makes the butts in seats not relevant. Most games are on TV, even the non power 5 conferences, so you really don't need to buy a ticket to consume football. It's all about TV folks.
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Old 01-10-17, 03:37 PM
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Oversaturation. Primarily from HD television, and the hassle of attending games becomes that much more troublesome. A crowd of 50,000, especially with security screenings, 'clear bag rules', etc, just drives people to stay at home.

Secondly, ticket prices are still going up. Until such time as major colleges and NFL teams feel the need to lower prices to start filling in their emptying stadiums, we have yet to reach peak football.

But, if they don't engage the average fan in some way other than TV, they're going to lose the future diehard fans because they'll only know football from television and not experience it in person. That's the big problem.
I go to 1 DI football game every other year, and that is when Ohio State plays at Indiana. Kids tickets are $10 for games at IU so that makes it a good time to bring them.

but yeah, the hassle and cost is way up there and with all the games on TV...why?

I still love to attend games, mostly NFL, even with the cost. I used to go to 3-4 steelers games a year. This year was just one, last weekend, and wow was it so cold I have to admit that I was....miserable even though they won big time.

I did go to two other NFL games this year but the $$ is just so much, and on tv you get to see everthing.

...but to experience games live still is fantastic.
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Old 01-13-17, 12:32 PM
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...but to experience games live still is fantastic.
No doubt!

For me I enjoy football at almost any level. I don't go to that many games, but just enjoy good football. So there is the live experience fo me just being at a good game.

But, when it comes to atmosphere it is impossible to beat major college.
Indiana is a GREAT place to tailgate! And it was fun (as a Buckeye fan) to see tOSU fans be able to do a wave around the whole stadium when IU couldn't. Some of the MAC-size venues are OK. Ford Field for college football has been fun.
Been to Columbus for several tOSU games, been to Ann Arbor for several tsun games, been to LA for USC vs UCLA at the Rose Bowl. Those are the "WOW" venues. Hope to get to see games at Alabama, Tennessee (beautiful setting!), maybe Texas, Florida, or Florida State. Would like to visit Washington some time - maybe fall would be the best time.

Isn't attendance at ALL live sports declining? I think someone already stated - there are just a lot of entertainment options.
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Old 01-13-17, 01:14 PM
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Rutgers attendance is down; but that only tells part of the story, they announce paid tickets, the actual attendance is not even close in some games.

Their homecoming game this year:

http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/in...endance.html#1

Rutger season tickets are down 12% since joining the Big Ten

Rutgers last year in the Big East had 34,168 tickets scanned per home game, this year they had 33,104 scanned per home game (but announced attendance averaged: 47,723)
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Old 01-13-17, 01:15 PM
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Well, Rutgers sucks so that probably has a lot to do with it.
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Old 01-13-17, 01:19 PM
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Average game attendance in the Big Ten:
2013 70421
2014 66939
2015 65998
2016 65578

Seems to be a trend across all teams.
Was 2014 the first year that Rutgers and Maryland joined the conference? If so, then the drop from 70k to 66k makes sense, since those teams only draw between 40 and 45k.

I don't think attendance declined at UM, OSU, Penn State, MSU, Iowa, Wisconsin ...
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Old 01-13-17, 01:23 PM
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Was 2014 the first year that Rutgers and Maryland joined the conference? If so, then the drop from 70k to 66k makes sense, since those teams only draw between 40 and 45k.

I don't think attendance declined at UM, OSU, Penn State, MSU, Iowa, Wisconsin ...
Makes sense except for maybe Iowa*


Iowa attendance has declined since 2012. most of that decline is students.[10,000 -6,000]

Maryland's attendance was up in 2015 and then dropped 16% this year
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Old 01-13-17, 01:32 PM
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Well, Rutgers sucks so that probably has a lot to do with it.
I thought that with the number of Big Ten graduates in the area, that they would be going to these games? That was one of the selling points for bringing in Rutgers[of course we all know it was the size of the TV market $$$]
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Old 01-13-17, 01:50 PM
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I thought that with the number of Big Ten graduates in the area, that they would be going to these games? That was one of the selling points for bringing in Rutgers[of course we all know it was the size of the TV market $$$]
All about the 1) tv money and 2) recruiting base
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All about the 1) tv money and 2) recruiting base
recruiting base? should have gotten one of those MidWestern power schools from Florida
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