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Old 02-11-17, 01:19 PM
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Cool Kyle Young Ties Gary Grant 22nd All Time Stark County

Last night Kyle Young tied Gary Grant with 1,361 points for 22nd all time in Stark County scoring.

I remember a couple of years ago when McKinley fans laughed when I said he would have a better career than Grant.

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Old 02-11-17, 02:21 PM
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My guess is they are still laughing - as am I.
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Old 02-11-17, 02:59 PM
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My guess is they are still laughing - as am I.


Well you guys have had a lot to laugh (and cry) about this season
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Old 02-11-17, 03:07 PM
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My guess is they are still laughing - as am I.
Your allowed to laugh all you want. It does not change the statistics.
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Old 02-11-17, 05:04 PM
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Congrats to the young man!

Let's put this into perspective though. This is not intended to take anything away from Young.
  1. Scoring more points doesn't equate to having a better career.
  2. Grant won a state title and Young has yet to play past the regional semis with just one district title.
  3. As a senior, Grant was the AP Ohio D1 Player of the Year and a McDonald's All-American.
  4. Freshmen were not eligible to play when Grant was in high school and he played just 3 seasons. Young has been a varsity player for 4 seasons.
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Old 02-11-17, 05:13 PM
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When did the state have a rule that freshman couldn't play varsity?
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Old 02-11-17, 05:23 PM
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When did the state have a rule that freshman couldn't play varsity?
Good question. That's news to me. I never knew Freshmen were ineligible when Grant was in High School.
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Old 02-11-17, 05:38 PM
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Kyle got injured his freshman year and also didn't play much
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Old 02-11-17, 05:52 PM
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Freshmen were not eligible to play when Grant was in high school and he played just 3 seasons. Young has been a varsity player for 4 seasons.
BS. That rule didn't exist. McKinley had Troy Taylor and Ronnie Stokes when Grant was a freshman. He didn't make the varsity.
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Old 02-11-17, 06:22 PM
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BS. That rule didn't exist. McKinley had Troy Taylor and Ronnie Stokes when Grant was a freshman. He didn't make the varsity.
Where were you in '81?
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Old 02-11-17, 06:41 PM
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Where were you in '81?
Sometimes watching the Bulldogs. Stokes and Taylor were lots of fun to watch.
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Old 02-11-17, 09:23 PM
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Freshmen didn't play in Canton at the time because CCS had junior highs and freshmen played for their junior high, not their senior high school. And I dont think Grant even moved to Canton until his sophomore year.

And claiming Young's career (which was been excellent) is anywhere near Grant's is, uh, absurd.
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Old 02-11-17, 09:31 PM
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I see this thread was more to take shots at Grant than congratulate Kyle. Pathetic. Typical elitist attitude.
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Old 02-11-17, 09:57 PM
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I see this thread was more to take shots at Grant than congratulate Kyle. Pathetic. Typical elitist attitude.


My aren't we the sensitive one.

Just pointing out the fact that Kyle tied Gary Grant and Mck fans acted as though that would be blasphemy
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Old 02-11-17, 10:11 PM
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BS. That rule didn't exist. McKinley had Troy Taylor and Ronnie Stokes when Grant was a freshman. He didn't make the varsity.
Freshman didn't go to McKinley back then. They were still in junior high.
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Old 02-11-17, 10:39 PM
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Freshman didn't go to McKinley back then. They were still in junior high.
This conversation doesn't belong here, but McKinley had a quarterback who played as a freshman in the 70's. So there's more to the story.
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Old 02-11-17, 11:26 PM
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My aren't we the sensitive one.

Just pointing out the fact that Kyle tied Gary Grant and Mck fans acted as though that would be blasphemy
You keep saying McKinley fans when you mean some guy, one guy probably and you just ran with the whole "McKinley fans" theory. You're a pathetic troll who can't even enjoy your school's success because you're obsessed with chasing a history that Jackson will never touch.
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Old 02-12-17, 12:10 AM
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From 1976 to about mid-90s, freshmen attended junior highs in Canton.
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Old 02-12-17, 07:00 AM
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Freshmen didn't play in Canton at the time because CCS had junior highs and freshmen played for their junior high, not their senior high school. And I dont think Grant even moved to Canton until his sophomore year.

And claiming Young's career (which was been excellent) is anywhere near Grant's is, uh, absurd.
Thank you,I had to wait till today to respond...Gary could play any sport and would have been one of the best...BAM!
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Old 02-12-17, 07:02 AM
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This conversation doesn't belong here, but McKinley had a quarterback who played as a freshman in the 70's. So there's more to the story.
He was a freshman but should have been a Junior.
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Old 02-12-17, 09:13 AM
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The sole purpose of the thread was to try to poke McK fans. To suggest that the two players are similar, let alone equal, is ignorant.

I can only hope that the continual anti-McK vitriol posted by Jackson fans is based in their own jealousy of McK successes and not some deeper and uglier biases.

In either case it should be closed.
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Old 02-12-17, 11:12 AM
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The sole purpose of the thread was to try to poke McK fans. To suggest that the two players are similar, let alone equal, is ignorant.

I can only hope that the continual anti-McK vitriol posted by Jackson fans is based in their own jealousy of McK successes and not some deeper and uglier biases.

In either case it should be closed.
I disagree. I feel the purpose of the thread was to make it known that Kyle Young has tied Gary Grant in high school career scoring. And it happened in spite of the reluctance of some to believe it could happen.

This is only a comparison of high school careers. I don't see anyone forecasting or comparing what Young will do after high school to what Grant did after he left Canton.

It was a pleasure watching Gary Grant back in the 80's (didn't he even play for a while with a broken left arm?) and it's also been a great pleasure watching Kyle Young grow and mature with his game over the last ten years.

Let's face it though, a good bit of Grant's legacy is in leading McKinley to its first state championship after having been in the championship game 8 times. Young can't do that because Jackson has already won a state championship.
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Old 02-12-17, 11:27 AM
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Sounds like I'm still listening to the Sunday political shows on this thread.

"You're a disgrace."

"No, you're a disgrace..."

Congrats to Young. Great player.
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Old 02-12-17, 11:36 AM
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Sounds like I'm still listening to the Sunday political shows on this thread.

"You're a disgrace."

"No, you're a disgrace..."

Congrats to Young. Great player.
Perfect.

Let's just congratulate the kid. Not everything has to be compared.
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Old 02-12-17, 01:21 PM
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You cannot blame Young for only having one District title. That blame lies with inept coaching; and to a much lesser degree, talent. It is a great accomplishment to surpass Grant in scoring. No one said anything about Young being better than Grant. Obviously, Grant was on another level. Jackson is the clear favorite to win the district this year, but with Debevec on the bench, another flame out wouldn't be that shocking imho.
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Old 02-12-17, 04:39 PM
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Sounds like I'm still listening to the Sunday political shows on this thread.

"You're a disgrace."

"No, you're a disgrace..."

Congrats to Young. Great player.
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Old 02-12-17, 08:10 PM
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This is only a comparison of high school careers. I don't see anyone forecasting or comparing what Young will do after high school to what Grant did after he left Canton.
Isn't it impossible to compare careers until Young's is over?

Which proves my point - this thread is not meant to compare anything. It's meant to hide behind biased agendas and only stir negative reactions. We see through the pretense even if you and the mods pretend not to see.

Young can only hope to have the career success that Grant achieved.
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Old 02-12-17, 08:25 PM
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Isn't it impossible to compare careers until Young's is over?
What planet are you from?

It's very easy to compare the number of points scored by these two players and that's all that's being compared. The total is even now but Kyle will probably pass Grant early in Tuesday's game.

Keep your trouble making to yourself.
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Old 02-12-17, 08:46 PM
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Lol at "22nd in the COUNTY"
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Old 02-13-17, 06:12 AM
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Let's put this into perspective though.
  1. Scoring more points doesn't equate to having a better career.
  2. Grant won a state title and Young has yet to play past the regional semis with just one district title.
  3. As a senior, Grant was the AP Ohio D1 Player of the Year and a McDonald's All-American.
  4. Freshmen were not eligible to play when Grant was in high school and he played just 3 seasons. Young has been a varsity player for 4 seasons.
Let's not let facts get in the way of other hateful agendas.

Curious that as Young has climbed the scoring list no thread was posted until he passed this particular one from McKinley. Hmmmm
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