2017 fall early outlook - Yappi Sports

werns63 · #1 12-28-16, 04:23 PM

Still a while away but always fun to talk girls HS soccer.
What teams in each division in Cincinnati will be top dog in 2017?

Did some teams lose a bunch of talent, some teams return a ton?

Who should we look out for?

fearthekeeper · #2 01-03-17, 10:12 PM

St. Ursula returns 7 of 11 starters and had excellent talent at the JV level. No reason they shouldn't sweep the GGCL and go very deep in the tournament. Seton should also surprise some people.

rcrosby · #3 01-04-17, 08:38 AM

Fairfield only lost 1 senior and she was hurt the entire year
JV only lost 1 game
Not many available spots for JV players to move up unless some varsity players don't return

buckshooter5 · #4 01-04-17, 09:12 AM

Hearing Oak Hills is in turmoil. Maybe it has never been the coaches. AD?

iluvsnow · #5 01-04-17, 09:17 AM

Bellbrook went to regionals with only two seniors on the roster. Knocked off Tipp City, Carroll and Wyoming before being eliminated by McNicholas. JV unbeaten for past two years and gave up only two goals entire season last fall.

cincysports4 · #6 01-04-17, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by buckshooter5

Hearing Oak Hills is in turmoil. Maybe it has never been the coaches. AD?

Havent heard any of that. Actually, heard the opposite. New AD is well liked and from what I hear has been spectacular at Oak Hills thus far.

Unless, you talked to a parent whose little Molly didn't play much?

Not sure who returns what from any school next season, so Im not much help from the outlook question.

soccer21stcentury · #7 01-17-17, 01:40 AM

SUA has quite a few returning starters opting to play for their clubs DA academy in the fall? SW and MJ and maybe some others. All play club at KH.

CitrusCrunch · #8 01-17-17, 07:13 AM

so wait they already picked da teams when were tryouts my niece wanted to do it was it posted

Irwin20 · #9 01-17-17, 07:23 AM

McNick should be decent. Lost alot but some key contributors return and the JV squad was strong.

werns63 · #10 01-17-17, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by soccer21stcentury

SUA has quite a few returning starters opting to play for their clubs DA academy in the fall? SW and MJ and maybe some others. All play club at KH.

This doesn't surprise me. I suspect Ursula will lose their 3 top players to DA. I am also eager to see how Lakota West, East, Mason, Lebanon, the "Northern" Schools, do with the DA. Would suspect each lose a few players, especially the incoming freshman classes.

fearthekeeper · #11 01-19-17, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by soccer21stcentury

SUA has quite a few returning starters opting to play for their clubs DA academy in the fall? SW and MJ and maybe some others. All play club at KH.

No guaratees they make the DA team

CitrusCrunch · #12 01-19-17, 11:05 PM

no chance they dont

buckshooter5 · #13 01-20-17, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Irwin20

McNick should be decent. Lost alot but some key contributors return and the JV squad was strong.

McNick should always be decent. It is D2.

sportsfanofyear · #14 01-20-17, 08:30 AM

I stumbled upon this Podcast regarding the Medina High School girls soccer team. They will be a top contender next year. Only losing 1 senior from this year's team. Their problem will be getting past Walsh, again.

http://www.neosportsinsiders.com/pod...-girls-soccer/

werns63 · #15 01-20-17, 08:31 AM

Alot will depend on who trys out and plays for the DA.. Some schools could take a major hit.

Irwin20 · #16 01-20-17, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by buckshooter5

McNick should always be decent. It is D2.

You think they should be D1 with 250 girls probably less than 200 in a year or two?

kmac57 · #17 01-20-17, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Irwin20

You think they should be D1 with 250 girls probably less than 200 in a year or two?

Sounds me that he was dissing DII as irrelevant. McNick has a great girls soccer program. Always plays a strong disciplined game. Would challenge all and beat many D1 teams. Losing a lot of seniors it will be interesting to see how they reload.

Irwin20 · #18 01-20-17, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kmac57

Sounds me that he was dissing DII as irrelevant. McNick has a great girls soccer program. Always plays a strong disciplined game. Would challenge all and beat many D1 teams. Losing a lot of seniors it will be interesting to see how they reload.

LOL, thats just what he does. He's always grumpy. Also seems to have issues with McNick that predates before I even knew Yappi existed.

CitrusCrunch · #19 01-20-17, 09:03 PM

challenge all and beat many well there you have it no wonder folks dislike us d2s so much sheesh

kmac57 · #20 01-21-17, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by CitrusCrunch

challenge all and beat many well there you have it no wonder folks dislike us d2s so much sheesh

I guess truth can hurt sheesh

fearthekeeper · #21 01-21-17, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by CitrusCrunch

no chance they dont

Always a chance. CUP has a lot of talent as do surrounding area clubs. One coming off a serious knee injury and the other who could take it or leave it. Nothing is guaranteed.

cincysports4 · #22 02-13-17, 08:53 AM

Ill take a stab at what I know/see/heard...

Ursula - Has plenty of talent returning, just depends if their best players go DA or not. Talking to a parent sounds like their top 2-3 just may go DA. This will obviously hurt but, they still have enough depth to have a successful season. If everyone returns they could be back in the top 1-2, now that their old coach has left. They've always had the talent to be top 1-2 each season, but poorly coached.

Mason - Returns just about everyone from last year. Return Metzger, Alliyah and Pop. They also have a solid returning support cast. I look to see them back in the top 3, assuming they all stay and don't go DA.

Loveland - Should be back, being the top dog for 2017. They lose their all american defender, but return some viable scoring threats and other solid players. Losing Beran, Kenyon and Ernst will hurt, but they return a very very good group in: Swift, Grieshop, Harden and their GK. Preseason #1 and should be #1-#2 all year...

Oak Hills - Is losing a very good senior class and the GMC POY in Knorr. They had alot of offensive fire power this past year with seniors. They had a very good back line, and I see 3/4 of them return with some very good young players filling in throughout. Probably wont have the star power like the past 3-4 years but a very good group returning. Have an all state player in Miller and a few other all conf 2nd team players returning. Would expect to see them in the top 3-5 again.

MND - Had such a talented and well balanced team this past year. Seems like they are losing just about everyone including Prathapa, Brauning, Schuppe, Wilson, Leshnak. They still return Porter, Dean and some other very good Sophomores and Juniors. I see them taking a step back however. Would say they will be between 6-8 in the Top 10. Still a solid squad who can make a run at the GGCL title again.

Fairfield - Seems like every year they return about 90% of their squad. Had a great year last year once again, with a squad consisting of mostly freshman to Juniors. Their 2 transfers in White and Goins are difference makers. These two are a force to be reckon with. They will also get Kidd back in the back. I see them being a top 3 team this year if they figure out what works and what doesn't work early in the season. They have the talent across the board.

Other teams.. Feel free to add some insight. Just thought Id give info on last years top 5 teams.

Turpin?
West?
East?
Walnut?
Ursuline?

lovesallsports · #23 02-14-17, 09:00 PM

West could have a pretty good team with 3 National Team players coming in as Freshman if they don't go to the DA.

cincysports4 · #24 02-14-17, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by lovesallsports

West could have a pretty good team with 3 National Team players coming in as Freshman if they don't go to the DA.

National team players.. play for cup.. they are hands down going to the DA.

lovesallsports · #25 02-15-17, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by cincysports4

National team players.. play for cup.. they are hands down going to the DA.

You never know. West could have a great striker, defender and goal keeper.

buckshooter5 · #26 02-16-17, 10:15 AM

This fall could be a toss up depending on who will stay and who will leave for the promise of making the National Team ?

Someone has done a huge deservice to these parents/kids by brainwashing them into Believing they will be on the National team if they play on the DA team ?

I see this lasting one season , once they figure out the DA has been all promise and no return except for a very select few , reality will set in and the majority will come back to play high school, we are not talking about Boys here we are talking about girls.

There is just something about playing for your high school that will stay with you the rest of your life, those memories will always be there.

Taking that away from these young ladies is a regretable crime and all because of a couple of self centered individual (coaches) who think it is more important to create their image than it is about the girls true future.

Greed for fame and fortune has caused this to happen and this could end up being a disaster for the girls in this region.

Hoosier Parent · #27 02-16-17, 12:32 PM

I don't know about all that. I presume that each organization is in competition for the best athletes and moves to create a newer/better program whenever they're on the outside looking in.

For whatever reason, there seems to be some panic in CUPland. In fairness I usually only come in contact with oo's, 01's and 02's. With that said there have been a lot of CUP girl sightings at OE Practices.

I would imagine that things will settle down. I'm assuming that if you love CUP/National league you can opt for the Preacademy (I can't remember what it's called) and still play high school. Next year's 01/02 DA team will have 3 National League slots to play with.

I'm assuming if you're a CUP girls who likes playing in the national league, you'll be able to play there next year.

buckshooter5 · #28 02-16-17, 01:23 PM

Let's not tip toe around or misunderstand why these girls are playing club.

Bottom line:

Girls playing club (High School age) top team and Mom and Dad forking out good money the focus is college soccer.
Getting out in front of the college coaches is so much more important than anything else !

The fighting between clubs and who is ranked higher and who has the best record means absolutley Nothing !

Once these girls club careers are over , NO ONE CARES ANYMORE ABOUT CLUB ! it was an avenue to get to college.

Now, how is the DA going to get these girls out in front of the College coaches ?
Exactly the focus is to identify one or two special players and the rest will be on their own.

I know for a fact that the ECNL platform does the best job at getting those kids in front of those college coaches.

That is not going to change until somone finds a better way to do that.

Empty CUP · #29 02-17-17, 11:13 AM

http://www.socceramerica.com/article...d-why-the.html

Gr8tS0ccr · #30 02-17-17, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by buckshooter5

Let's not tip toe around or misunderstand why these girls are playing club.

Bottom line:

Girls playing club (High School age) top team and Mom and Dad forking out good money the focus is college soccer.
Getting out in front of the college coaches is so much more important than anything else !

The fighting between clubs and who is ranked higher and who has the best record means absolutley Nothing !

Once these girls club careers are over , NO ONE CARES ANYMORE ABOUT CLUB ! it was an avenue to get to college.

Now, how is the DA going to get these girls out in front of the College coaches ?
Exactly the focus is to identify one or two special players and the rest will be on their own.

I know for a fact that the ECNL platform does the best job at getting those kids in front of those college coaches.

That is not going to change until somone finds a better way to do that.

Completely agree. US Soccer hates the college game, so doubt they will embrace the college coaches like ECNL does. They will relax the HS issue on the girls side if it keeps them from drawing talent.