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Old 02-16-17, 10:14 AM
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Playing league games once or twice?

There are some leagues they play each other twice and some leagues where they only play each other only once.

What do most of you prefer?
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Old 02-16-17, 12:18 PM
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It depends on the size of the league. Portsmouth is a member of the Ohio Valley Conference, which is an 8 team conference, consisting of Portsmouth, Ironton, Coal Grove, South Point, Chesapeake, Rock Hill, Proctorville Fairland, and Gallia Academy. Each school plays every other school twice, home and away, for a total of 14 conference games. That still leaves 8 games for non-conference traditional rivalries or games where a school might want to challenge themselves against some stronger programs.

I think that a double round robin schedule will result most times in a more true champion, but in some leagues it may not be feasible to schedule this way.
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Old 02-16-17, 12:33 PM
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I don't like it....especially in leagues that traditionally have only 2 or 3 good teams. Makes for a lot of ugly matchups. It also limits your chance to schedule really good out of conference teams (though I get that some schools are more worried about wins than their schedule). I like the variety of having 9 league games and 13 non-league....much better than I would like to play 18 league and only 4 non-league
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Old 02-16-17, 02:47 PM
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I do not like it do to the fact that many times you will play a league team in the tournament with the current alignment. Playing a team 3 times in a year honestly is just boring in those scenarios, even against key rivals.
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Old 02-17-17, 09:44 AM
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I do not like it do to the fact that many times you will play a league team in the tournament with the current alignment. Playing a team 3 times in a year honestly is just boring in those scenarios, even against key rivals.
Not when 2 of the top teams in Ohio are in the same league. That's great basketball!
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Old 02-17-17, 11:04 AM
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I don't mind the playing two teams twice thing. If they happen to play again in the tournament for a third time, oh well. They should have each other figured out by that time. May the best team win!
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Old 02-17-17, 11:06 AM
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I think it all depends on the size of the league. I think teams should at least get 10 non-league games.
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Old 02-17-17, 01:40 PM
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2. One at home and one on the road
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Old 02-17-17, 02:07 PM
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I like how the NCL does it, one at home, one away.
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Old 02-17-17, 04:27 PM
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This is part of the reason that you see the same teams every year finish the regular season 20-2 and then lose in the District semi's. We can all name at least a half dozen teams who are in a 10 team league that are guaranteed 14 wins/year because the bottom 7 teams in their league are awful and they play them all twice. If they happen to win the other 4, they're 18-0 and only have 4 non-league games left. This is also why you'll see teams with 5-6 losses making it to Columbus....9 league games, 13 non-league against good competition and they roll thru the District where they play a bunch of those teams who didn't play any competition all thru the regular season
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Old 02-17-17, 09:14 PM
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This is part of the reason that you see the same teams every year finish the regular season 20-2 and then lose in the District semi's. We can all name at least a half dozen teams who are in a 10 team league that are guaranteed 14 wins/year because the bottom 7 teams in their league are awful and they play them all twice. If they happen to win the other 4, they're 18-0 and only have 4 non-league games left. This is also why you'll see teams with 5-6 losses making it to Columbus....9 league games, 13 non-league against good competition and they roll thru the District where they play a bunch of those teams who didn't play any competition all thru the regular season
Sounds more like those schools need to find a different league instead of saying the format is wrong.
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Old 02-17-17, 09:38 PM
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There are sectional draws were a team will play two league teams to get to the sectional final. That seems dumb.
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Old 02-18-17, 06:41 AM
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Most leagues are formed because of geography rather than for competition. Imbalance in competition is one of the realities of high school basketball.
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Old 02-18-17, 08:50 AM
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Most leagues are formed because of geography rather than for competition. Imbalance in competition is one of the realities of high school basketball.
If they are in those leagues because of distance, then the two league games per school would help those schools out. Yes, they may not get as many out of conference games but that means a lot less travel for those teams, saving the schools and families a lot of money. If competition is that important to a gross minority of schools in a league (2 out of 10), then they need to go find another league.

Why should the overwhelming majority have to bend over for 1 or 2 schools? I'm sure in these scenarios we are talking about smaller, more than likely rural schools, where money and resources are probably not bursting from their seams. But you want to force them to travel all over gods green earth, further than they more than likely already do, in order to fill a 10+ game OOC schedule. Sounds a little selfish if you ask me.
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Old 01-17-18, 01:18 PM
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I prefer playing each other once. I love having more non-league games then league games. You have a chance to strengthen your schedule.
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Old 01-17-18, 02:15 PM
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The itcl had the worst set up ever it's last 2 years of existence. Everyone in your tier twice and the other schools once, it led to teams having 20/22 games being locked in league games (there were exceptions to honor previous deals or mutual agreement not to play)
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Old 01-17-18, 02:33 PM
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GCL Coed plays 3 teams in their own division twice and 4 teams from the other division once.
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Old 01-17-18, 02:39 PM
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This is part of the reason that you see the same teams every year finish the regular season 20-2 and then lose in the District semi's. We can all name at least a half dozen teams who are in a 10 team league that are guaranteed 14 wins/year because the bottom 7 teams in their league are awful and they play them all twice. If they happen to win the other 4, they're 18-0 and only have 4 non-league games left. This is also why you'll see teams with 5-6 losses making it to Columbus....9 league games, 13 non-league against good competition and they roll thru the District where they play a bunch of those teams who didn't play any competition all thru the regular season
I remember Todd Mayo had south point 20-0 and lost the first game to a below .500 Ironton team. D1 Logan will go 22-0 and will lose early this year.
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Old 01-17-18, 02:42 PM
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Greater Western Ohio Conference: GWOC

The GWOC is split into 2 divisions, the National and American, the National is then split into east and west while the American is split into North and South.

Home and Away is played in each sub division (East,West, North, South) while other teams in your division is played just once. (National,American) any games played where a national team plays an american team that game does not count in the standings...

Wayne for example plays home and away against:

Centerville, Springfield, Fairmont, and Beavercreek

and plays just once against

Northmont, Springboro, Miamisburg, and Lebanon...

YES, I like this format.
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Old 01-17-18, 08:58 PM
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One of the things that surprised me the most when I moved to Indiana 21 years ago that no high schools here played double round robin in the league regardless of the size of the league.

A large school league in northwest Indiana played double round robin for a few years but is back to just one game.

Indiana allows schools to play 22 games or 20 games plus a tournament of up to four games. My son went to a private high school in the Indy area. They are now in a ten team league divided in to two divisions because of the distance between some league schools. They play each team in their division once then a crossover game late in the year against the similarly placed team in the other division. So 5 league games out of 23 this year. Now his school plays four of the five teams in the other division during the regular season, but they aren't league games.

But winning your post season Sectional championship in Indiana has always been more important than winning your league. Even when those Sectionals now take only 2 of 3 wins (5 to 8 team Sectionals).
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Old 01-18-18, 12:17 AM
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Home-and-home in league play is more likely to provide a reflective champion, especially when league play extends over the length of the season (11-to-12 weeks). With the 22 game regular season, it would seem more than adequate number of non-league games are available for those in leagues of eight teams or divisions of six. If you're in a ten team league than double round-robin is pushing it.

In a fall sport like soccer, double round-robin doesn't work as well since there are way less games (16); also the length of the season is shorter (8 weeks), which makes the double round-robin less necessary.
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Old 01-18-18, 12:47 AM
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If the league is 8 teams or less play twice. If bigger once.
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Old 01-18-18, 01:50 AM
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The NWOAL only has 8 teams and they all play each other once. I prefer that. Itís pretty much a winner take all.
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Old 01-20-18, 07:00 AM
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Don't care for the home and away set up in the Stark Federal League,once is enough for me.Canton McKinley could play six more games with some of the better basketball programs to get ready for tourney play.
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