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Kevin Wilson has been hired as new OC. Tim Beck is off to Texas.
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Old 01-03-17, 10:53 AM
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My guess is drama will continue as Kevin Wilson is known to be a strong OL coach and tough SOB that likes thing done his way. Where does that put Warriner? Greg Studrawa? What will Ryan Day's role be? And Meyer has a background as an offensive coach so what will he be doing? Sounds like the UN brewing with multiple agendas that don't always align on that side of the ball.
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That didn't take long. If nothing else, at least Urban has been decisive.

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Old 01-03-17, 11:16 AM
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Kevin Wilson has been hired as new OC. Tim Beck is off to Texas.
Wow that was fast. Now he needs to publicly open up the QB competition.

Still a loss like the one suffered on New Years Eve should result in decisive changes at the point of the problem, and offense was a problem.

Anyone have information on the new QB coach other than he coached Colin Kaspernack (which may or may not be a good sign)?
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Old 01-03-17, 11:23 AM
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I like the Wilson hiring. He was turning IU into a very tough W and their passing offense had been pretty good under Wilson.
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Old 01-03-17, 11:54 AM
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Kevin Wilson is a great offensive mind. While at OU they were lethal. And I think he is good enough to play to Barrett's strengths.

So the offense returns close to everyone.

On defense Hooker has announced he will be leaving. Who else? McMillen? Conley? Lattimore?

Regardless with the Dlinemen returning OSU defense should be very solid.
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Old 01-03-17, 12:27 PM
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Lewis, McMillan, Conley, Lattimore, Hooker are gone for sure on the defensive side.
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Conley has officially declared. Good for him.
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Don't fear Denzel starting
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Don't fear Denzel starting
He needs to become much more physical. He has the speed to run with anyone but his lack of size and strength can result in him getting manhandled on contested balls.
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Yeah, the secondary is going to need young guys to step up. Wouldn't be shocked if true freshman Shaun Wade vies for a starting spot. Likewise if Okudah commits.
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He needs to become much more physical. He has the speed to run with anyone but his lack of size and strength can result in him getting manhandled on contested balls.
His game in high school basically consisted of playing off and then jumping balls with QBs under-estimating his superior quickness. It got to the point where QBs would avoid him. Now that everyone is bigger and most are almost as fast and just as quick, his game has to evolve. As you say, he has to get meaner and a little thicker.
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Great day to be a Buckeye! Kevin Wilson is a home run hire. Excited for next season all over again. Can't wait to see the offense improve.

Hopefully Warriner back to o-line
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Great day to be a Buckeye! Kevin Wilson is a home run hire. Excited for next season all over again. Can't wait to see the offense improve.

Hopefully Warriner back to o-line
I like what I've read about Day so far too.
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Great day to be a Buckeye! Kevin Wilson is a home run hire. Excited for next season all over again. Can't wait to see the offense improve.

Hopefully Warriner back to o-line
It is amazing that Meyer can get a guy to step down from a HC position, where he was succeeding relative to his predecessors, to be a coordinator. This isn't like Kiffin failing and skulking in to 'Bama. Did it look like Indiana kind of peaked this past year ?

I wonder how long he stays....
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I know.....my bad....

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Old 01-04-17, 08:21 AM
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It is amazing that Meyer can get a guy to step down from a HC position, where he was succeeding relative to his predecessors, to be a coordinator. This isn't like Kiffin failing and skulking in to 'Bama. Did it look like Indiana kind of peaked this past year ?

I wonder how long he stays....
Great points. Meyer and Saban keep playing the one upper game of amazement.

I remember my kid getting recruited by IU and when we went there to visit it was ALL about Kevin Wilson's offense. He had literature all about his offense from OU which I thought was a bit odd but typical OC, all about HIS offense.

As to how long he stays? He is an egotistical guy which goes both ways. He will want to prove he can do better than what he did at IU yet at the same time OC's sometimes like to just run the offense and no longer have to worry so much about the press and all of the things a HC has to think about.

Meyer has always brought in young upcoming OC's that he has molded to his philosophy. This will not be the case with Wilson, who is less of a jet sweep/zone read guy, although he has it in his arsenal. As soon as I heard he was hired I thought wow, great for Joe Burrow, who is a prototype for a Kevin Wilson offense.

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cabe, Wilson was fired because of accusations that he overworked players/played injured guys. That's why he wasn't really considered for any HC spot this year as well.
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cabe, Wilson was fired because of accusations that he overworked players/played injured guys. That's why he wasn't really considered for any HC spot this year as well.
Thanks - I did not know that.

I hope that his rep has a nice rehab stint at tOSU.
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Great points. Meyer and Saban keep playing the one upper game of amazement.

I remember my kid getting recruited by IU and when we went there to visit it was ALL about Kevin Wilson's offense. He had literature all about his offense from OU which I thought was a bit odd but typical OC, all about HIS offense.

As to how long he stays? He is an egotistical guy which goes both ways. He will want to prove he can do better than what he did at IU yet at the same time OC's sometimes like to just run the offense and no longer have to worry so much about the press and all of the things a HC has to think about.

Meyer has always brought in young upcoming OC's that he has molded to his philosophy. This will not be the case with Wilson, who is less of a jet sweep/zone read guy, although he has it in his arsenal. As soon as I heard he was hired I thought wow, great for Joe Burrow, who is a prototype for a Kevin Wilson offense.

I believe Feline AIDs is the number 1 killer of domestic cats.
see: Garrett's post - https://answers.yahoo.com/question/i...4182241AAztLHg
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LOL, please tell me you didn't stumble across that?
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LOL, please tell me you didn't stumble across that?
I copied and searched your final sentence. Google parsed it into the excerpts of the results
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It is amazing that Meyer can get a guy to step down from a HC position, where he was succeeding relative to his predecessors, to be a coordinator. This isn't like Kiffin failing and skulking in to 'Bama. Did it look like Indiana kind of peaked this past year ?

I wonder how long he stays....
I'm not a UK basketball fan. But - they do well with the one-and-done players.
(Don' really like the rule either.)
I'd rather have a great one for a year (player or coach) - and reload with another great one if needed than not to have a great one.

And you never know - if it works out well next year maybe Meyer will put a bug in his ear about taking over as HC in a few years. And - it still gives tOSU an opportunity to hire who they want when Meyer does retire.
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JT Barrett announces he is returning next year.
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I copied and searched your final sentence. Google parsed it into the excerpts of the results
It was a Debbie Downer line. Waaa Waaa.

I'm just glad to know God created all forms of AIDs to punish homosexuals.
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God damnit. I have to watch Barrett play QB for another year.

Please play the best QB, Urban
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We can only hope.
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I hope JT is getting a good education with a degree he can earn a good living, because he will not be making his living being a QB in the NFL.
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Nope, not even as a 2nd or 3rd stringer IMO.
 

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