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Old 06-20-18, 10:39 AM
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Ferrari Brothers attending Blair

Jose Lowe is reporting

AJ and Anthony will begin attending Blair Academy in the Fall. This was an extremely difficult decision for us that involved lots of prayer by us, close friends and family.

Very tough to compete against a world wide high school team. People say SPG, Elyria, Brecksville, LaSalle or Ed's recruit. Nothing like this.
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Old 06-20-18, 11:35 AM
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I saw the preseason Flo rankings today and Blair, aka The Evil Empire, had 9 of 14 kids ranked. No one competes with that. AJ Ferrari is listed as Allen, TX and not Blair. He is ranked #1 ahead of Craft from Blair (formally from Ohio). I guess that puts #19 ranked Craft down a weight at 182 and gives Blair 10 of 14 ranked wrestlers, assuming he drops down and is still ranked.

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Old 06-20-18, 11:55 AM
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Just found Anthony Ferrari and he is ranked #9 at 113, ahead of Blair teammate Miller at #17. If Miller drops down to 106 Blair would have 11 ranked kids.
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Old 06-20-18, 12:20 PM
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For those hoping they aren't as strong next year:
113 Ferrari, FR #9
113 Miller, JR #17
120 Mastrogiovanni JR #3
126 Colaiocco SR #4
132 Cannon SR #12
145 Mastrogiovanni SO #13
152 Kaiser SR #12
160 Mata JR #5
170 Ramirez SR #2
195 Ferrari JR #1
195 Craft SO #19
220 Trephan SR #8

The good news is that they lose 5 seniors after this coming season. The bad news is that will return 6 ranked underclassmen and likely will scour the planet for replacements for those 5 seniors.
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Old 06-20-18, 12:35 PM
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I wonder if they would still recruit like this if teams stopped scheduling matches against them. Plenty of other places to find some iron to sharpen your sword against.

Does anyone govern wrestling nationally?
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Old 06-20-18, 01:22 PM
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I wonder if they would still recruit like this if teams stopped scheduling matches against them. Plenty of other places to find some iron to sharpen your sword against.

Does anyone govern wrestling nationally?
NFHS - National Federation of High School Associations. I don't think they get into recruiting. They leave that up to the states to monitor. And Blair is a private boarding school (about $60k a year), so recruiting is part of their mission. I don't think they are part of the NJ state HS association, so they can pretty much do what they want so long as it complies with the NFHS. My guess is that when they wrestle out of state they comply with basic rules like age limits. They have 5th year seniors who do not wrestle in Ironman and other similar state run tournaments. The 5th year guys wrestle in the National Prep Championships, and this association includes 5th year seniors.

If tournaments didn't allow them to enter, it could lessen the prestige of a tournament. My guess is that some tournaments might take this route, but most of the high profile tournys let them in.
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Old 06-20-18, 01:55 PM
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I saw the preseason Flo rankings today and Blair, aka The Evil Empire, had 9 of 14 kids ranked. No one competes with that. AJ Ferrari is listed as Allen, TX and not Blair. He is ranked #1 ahead of Craft from Blair (formally from Ohio). I guess that puts #19 ranked Craft down a weight at 182 and gives Blair 10 of 14 ranked wrestlers, assuming he drops down and is still ranked.
Crooked Blair!
The system is rigged!
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Old 06-20-18, 02:36 PM
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[QUOTE=bdhof;7059461]For those hoping they aren't as strong next year:


I was one of them but man they will be tough to beat. Going to Blair is even worse. Would be a rather large upset now.
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Old 06-20-18, 02:46 PM
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They are basically the same as IMG in football correct? They can openly recruit and the kids go to get better. The kids sacrifice the opportunity at state championships, but gain in living the sport. No NCAA issues for them once they leave, so what is the down side? Other countries have similar government funded programs to develop athletes.

Allen, TX isn't exactly well liked in Texas as they have recruited in both football and wrestling and receive transfers every year from all over. I guess they got a little taste of being on the other end of it.
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Old 06-20-18, 03:01 PM
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Just amazing what high school sports have developed into.
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Old 06-20-18, 04:50 PM
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I saw the preseason Flo rankings today and Blair, aka The Evil Empire, had 9 of 14 kids ranked. No one competes with that. AJ Ferrari is listed as Allen, TX and not Blair. He is ranked #1 ahead of Craft from Blair (formally from Ohio). I guess that puts #19 ranked Craft down a weight at 182 and gives Blair 10 of 14 ranked wrestlers, assuming he drops down and is still ranked.
I imagine Craft shouldn’t have that big of a problem making 182 unless he’s hit a large growth spurt recently. These transfers are hardly a surprise, Blair seems to get 2 or more ranked transfers a year to fill their holes. Hard to compete with that, but it makes it extra special when a SPG or Eds beats them.
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Old 06-21-18, 08:21 AM
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I saw the preseason Flo rankings today and Blair, aka The Evil Empire, had 9 of 14 kids ranked. No one competes with that. AJ Ferrari is listed as Allen, TX and not Blair. He is ranked #1 ahead of Craft from Blair (formally from Ohio). I guess that puts #19 ranked Craft down a weight at 182 and gives Blair 10 of 14 ranked wrestlers, assuming he drops down and is still ranked.
I may be wrong but I see Craft staying at 195,Ferrari to 220 and Ramirez at 182.I also see Trephan moving up from 220 to heavyweight. Last year Craft was way undersized at 195 but for a freshman he did very well.I don't think that Ramirez can make weight at 170. Who knows with 5 months until next season how much natural growth will affect all these weights.

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Old 06-21-18, 04:32 PM
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Just amazing what high school sports have developed into.
Agree. If you think wrestling is crazy, it's still pretty wholesome compared to baseball and basketball
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Old 06-22-18, 08:54 AM
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Agree. If you think wrestling is crazy, it's still pretty wholesome compared to baseball and basketball
IMG may be the poster child for this topic. Thank goodness they don't have wrestling...yet.

Baseball (since 2006)
170 D1 commits ~ 13 per year
30 players have played in MLB ~ 2 per year

Basketball (since 2005)
17 D1 commits in last two years ~ 8 per year
7 drafted in NBA

Football (since 2014)
Top 5 in nation and undefeated in last 3 years
119 D1 commits ~ 29 per year

And I think they got their start in tennis
53 Combined Grand Slam singles, doubles and mixed doubles titles
25 D1 commits last two years ~ 12 per year

I could go on and on, with programs in golf, girls BB, track & field, lacrosse and soccer. I remember a story when Andre Agassi was attending IMG and wouldn't go to class. While being reprimanded by a staff member, he told them that his parents sent him there to learn tennis, not go to class. After checking with his parents, he was told he didn't have to go to class if he didn't want to.
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Old 06-22-18, 08:58 AM
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And IMG recruits internationally, not just in the USA, with a student profile of 36% "international" students.

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Old 06-22-18, 11:10 AM
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CAPE from the late 1980s would stomp the hell out of IMG today.
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Old 06-22-18, 11:17 AM
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IMG may be the poster child for this topic. Thank goodness they don't have wrestling...yet.

Baseball (since 2006)
170 D1 commits ~ 13 per year
30 players have played in MLB ~ 2 per year

Basketball (since 2005)
17 D1 commits in last two years ~ 8 per year
7 drafted in NBA

Football (since 2014)
Top 5 in nation and undefeated in last 3 years
119 D1 commits ~ 29 per year

And I think they got their start in tennis
53 Combined Grand Slam singles, doubles and mixed doubles titles
25 D1 commits last two years ~ 12 per year

I could go on and on, with programs in golf, girls BB, track & field, lacrosse and soccer. I remember a story when Andre Agassi was attending IMG and wouldn't go to class. While being reprimanded by a staff member, he told them that his parents sent him there to learn tennis, not go to class. After checking with his parents, he was told he didn't have to go to class if he didn't want to.
Microcosm for issues in the US currently. Kids are not learning a sense of community through competing for conference or even state titles. You go to IMG you are saying D1/Pro is my only goal. How do you expect kids to a have respect for our country (not political party BS) if they don't care about community and roots. That used to be important.
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Old 06-22-18, 11:30 AM
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Does anyone know what the IMG in IMG Academy stands for? Couldn't find it defined on their website.
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Old 06-22-18, 11:45 AM
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Jose Lowe is reporting

AJ and Anthony will begin attending Blair Academy in the Fall. This was an extremely difficult decision for us that involved lots of prayer by us, close friends and family.

Very tough to compete against a world wide high school team. People say SPG, Elyria, Brecksville, LaSalle or Ed's recruit. Nothing like this.
Just took a look at this year's roster from the Blair website. Granted that Blair has kids coming in to a student body from all over the country and over a dozen foreign countries.It is a boarding prep school after all. But Blair has on its current roster( I eliminated wrestlers from the class of 2018) 10 wrestlers from NJ and northeastern PA not including the Ferrari brothers and Dan Wask who are or soon will be NJ residents and will be matriculating to Blair in the fall.That's thirteen in a wrestling room of about 30 wrestlers.
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Old 06-22-18, 12:24 PM
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Does anyone know what the IMG in IMG Academy stands for? Couldn't find it defined on their website.
IMG (company), global sports and media business headquartered in New York City but with its main offices in Cleveland, originally known as the "International Management Group", with divisions including: IMG Academy, an athletic training complex in Bradenton, Florida with facilities for multiple sports.
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Old 06-22-18, 12:26 PM
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Nick Bollettieri founded the Nick Bollettieri Tennis Academy in 1978. Sports and entertainment company IMG purchased the academy in 1987.[1] IMG acquired the youth division of the David Leadbetter Golf Academy in 1993 and added programs for soccer and baseball in 1994. Hockey and basketball programs were added in 2000 and 2001, respectively, and by 2002 the IMG campus had expanded to 190 acres (0.77 km2).[2] IMG Academy suspended its hockey program in 2003.[citation needed] Football was added in 2010,[3] as well as lacrosse.[4] Track & field and cross country was added in 2013.[5] The academy fielded a high school football team for the first time in 2013.

Bollettieri Tennis
The Bollettieri Tennis program offers year-round tennis camps ranging from one to five weeks in length and is led by director Rohan Goetzke.[9] The campus has 35 outdoor hard courts, 5 indoor hard courts, and 16 green clay courts.[10]

In 1987, thirty-two academy students or former students were in the Wimbledon draw and twenty-seven were in the U.S. Open. The famous students included Andre Agassi, Monica Seles, Jim Courier, Kei Nishikori, Anna Kournikova, Serena Williams, Boris Becker, Bjorn Borg, Pete Sampras, and Maria Sharapova.

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Old 06-22-18, 12:52 PM
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BTW, sorry for hijacking the Final X with all this IMG stuff (especially since they don't even have a wrestling program).
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Old 06-22-18, 02:15 PM
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IMG may be the poster child for this topic. Thank goodness they don't have wrestling...yet.

Baseball (since 2006)
170 D1 commits ~ 13 per year
30 players have played in MLB ~ 2 per year

Basketball (since 2005)
17 D1 commits in last two years ~ 8 per year
7 drafted in NBA

Football (since 2014)
Top 5 in nation and undefeated in last 3 years
119 D1 commits ~ 29 per year

And I think they got their start in tennis
53 Combined Grand Slam singles, doubles and mixed doubles titles
25 D1 commits last two years ~ 12 per year

I could go on and on, with programs in golf, girls BB, track & field, lacrosse and soccer. I remember a story when Andre Agassi was attending IMG and wouldn't go to class. While being reprimanded by a staff member, he told them that his parents sent him there to learn tennis, not go to class. After checking with his parents, he was told he didn't have to go to class if he didn't want to.
Baseball-9 Starters on the field, so each season backups are getting scholarships...

Basketball-5 starters on the court, so each season backups are getting scholarships...

Football-22 starters on the field, so each season pretty much the whole team is getting a scholarship.
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CAPE from the late 1980s would stomp the hell out of IMG today.
Although CAPE was solid in football, they only won 2 state titles in the 1980's. In 1985 they were D4 champs beating St. Thomas Aquinas 27-0. In 1986 they moved up to D3 and barely scraped by a 3 loss Kenston team 7-6. They had Carlos Snow nicknamed the "The Blizzard" back in the day. He had a solid career at tOSU as a running back (3,000 yards) and played a couple of years in the NFL with the Broncos. I do remember seeing a linebacker from Kenston knock him out of the state championship game in 1986 with a vicious (legal) hit. That linebacker went on to play at tOSU also. Snow was FAST....state champ in the 100 meters in track. HOWEVER.....CAPE was not sending 33 kids on average to D1 Colleges every year (like IMG). I don't think you have ever seen IMG play or understand the level of talent involved there. IMG today would steamroll the best CAPE team from the 80's by 50 points. Not taking anything away from CAPE...I'm just saying these 2 are not even close to the same level.

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