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Old 07-12-18, 02:59 AM
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US OIL Production

US will soon become the world's leading producer of oil. Not too long ago many "experts" were saying the world was tapped out of oil, nothing like good old Capitalism too prove them wrong. https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...e05_story.html
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Old 07-12-18, 07:41 AM
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This is good news. It doesn't mean we should not pursue alternative fuel options and gas prices are climbing over $3/gallon.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/rising-...omy-1531301401
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Old 07-12-18, 08:15 AM
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This is good news. It doesn't mean we should not pursue alternative fuel options and gas prices are climbing over $3/gallon.

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We should pursue them when and where they make sense. There are portable energy options and there are non-mobile energy options. We should look at eliminating the use of mobile energy in non-mobile production facilities - why are we burning fossil fuels for electrical production when it could be used in cars, trucks, ships, and aircraft? Why not use nuclear energy for electrical production?
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Old 07-12-18, 08:25 AM
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FWIW, the average inflation adjusted gas price since 1918 is $2.64/gallon.
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Old 07-12-18, 09:37 AM
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We should pursue them when and where they make sense.
Well to some people,
- research just doesn't make sense.
- that to make practical a promising technology for energy capture and storage takes not days, months or years to develop but several decades and even centuries, doesn't make sense.
- planning for the future, doesn't make sense.

To those people, it just makes more sense to bury their heads in the sand, to stagnant. After-all, they'll be dead before it could be their problem.

To the practical people, it does make sense to pursue "them", NOW and HERE.
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Old 07-12-18, 10:38 AM
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FWIW, the average inflation adjusted gas price since 1918 is $2.64/gallon.
When I first got my license gas was .369 a gallon, and my job at the gas station paid $1.25 an hour.
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Old 07-12-18, 10:39 AM
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Capitalism? I think you mean good old Science is to thank. Geologists, Geophysicists, Petroleum Engineers. Too bad the majority of domestic oil has, is and always will be shipped overseas. Now that part you can thank capitalism for.

When I graduated high school in Ohio in May of 1999 gas was $0.93 a gallon. If gasoline prices simply followed inflation gas SHOULD cost $1.41 / gallon. As it stands gas prices are twice the rate of inflation. Again, you can thank Capitalism for that.
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Old 07-12-18, 10:44 AM
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Capitalism? I think you mean good old Science is to thank. Geologists, Geophysicists, Petroleum Engineers.
I didn't realize that these people paid for a college education to now work as volunteers. Good to know.
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Old 07-12-18, 11:24 AM
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We should pursue them when and where they make sense. Why not use nuclear energy for electrical production?
Right now in the US there is a bunch of nuclear waste sitting around at power plants, very few places accept nuclear waste, and I see nuclear waste being buried in my backyard in Ohio.
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Old 07-12-18, 01:12 PM
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We should pursue them when and where they make sense. There are portable energy options and there are non-mobile energy options. We should look at eliminating the use of mobile energy in non-mobile production facilities - why are we burning fossil fuels for electrical production when it could be used in cars, trucks, ships, and aircraft? Why not use nuclear energy for electrical production?
Why? Because we drained the swamp of doctors, physicists, scientists, and engineers who are leaders in their fields, and filled it with fossil fuel lobbyists, campaign donors, and political hacks. That's why. Plus he promised coal miners.

The guy in charge of the Dept. of Energy - and our entire nuclear arsenal - has a 4 year degree in Animal Husbandry, LOL. Just go down the list.

Newer technology and innovations are fascinating and will continue to advance, perhaps not as quickly, but don't look for any rational discussion involving cleaner or renewable energies emanating from the WH for 2 to 6 more years.
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Old 07-12-18, 02:06 PM
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Why did you bring Trump into the discussion?

Never mind...I forgot. TDS.
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Old 07-12-18, 03:04 PM
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Why? Because we drained the swamp of doctors, physicists, scientists, and engineers who are leaders in their fields, and filled it with fossil fuel lobbyists, campaign donors, and political hacks. That's why. Plus he promised coal miners.

The guy in charge of the Dept. of Energy - and our entire nuclear arsenal - has a 4 year degree in Animal Husbandry, LOL. Just go down the list.

Newer technology and innovations are fascinating and will continue to advance, perhaps not as quickly, but don't look for any rational discussion involving cleaner or renewable energies emanating from the WH for 2 to 6 more years.
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Old 07-12-18, 06:05 PM
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FWIW, the average inflation adjusted gas price since 1918 is $2.64/gallon.
Melt value for a 1918 quarter would be 2.89 today....some things never change.
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Old 07-12-18, 06:14 PM
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We should pursue them when and where they make sense. There are portable energy options and there are non-mobile energy options. We should look at eliminating the use of mobile energy in non-mobile production facilities - why are we burning fossil fuels for electrical production when it could be used in cars, trucks, ships, and aircraft? Why not use nuclear energy for electrical production?
this

And I'd like to see scrubbed coal plants get a fresh look
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Old 07-12-18, 06:26 PM
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I was told the eastern seaboard would be underwater and we'd all be using public transportation and electric cars by now so this comes as quite a shock.

All those years the left was pushing the "we need to get off foreign oil!!!" meme, yet they'll somehow turn this into a bad thing.
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Old 07-12-18, 06:30 PM
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I was told the eastern seaboard would be underwater and we'd all be using public transportation and electric cars by now so this comes as quite a shock.

All those years the left was pushing the "we need to get off foreign oil!!!" meme, yet they'll somehow turn this into a bad thing.
Looking at Hatteras real estate. #ain'tskeerd

*no drilling in the Carolinas!!!
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Old 07-12-18, 09:02 PM
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Might want to increase the ethanol blend. It will lower gas prices.
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Old 07-12-18, 09:16 PM
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Might want to increase the ethanol blend. It will lower gas prices.
Not really a good idea.

Incentivizing an increase in refining capacity makes far more sense.
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Old 07-12-18, 09:23 PM
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Not really a good idea.

Incentivizing an increase in refining capacity makes far more sense.
We could use more corn and soybeans for fuel... you know, help out all those farmers who are hurting because of tariffs and all.
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Old 07-12-18, 09:27 PM
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We could use more corn and soybeans for fuel... you know, help out all those farmers who are hurting because of tariffs and all.
I'd rather see lipo-suction bio-diesel, tbh. Better dual benefit to society
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Old 07-13-18, 10:10 AM
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................ Too bad the majority of domestic oil has, is and always will be shipped overseas. Now that part you can thank capitalism for.

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What?? The majority of US oil has never been shipped overseas
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Old 07-13-18, 10:29 AM
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I was told the eastern seaboard would be underwater ...
The reason we don't see higher sea levels along the coast is because the bottom of the ocean has sunk. You got to keep up with the science.
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Old 07-13-18, 10:55 AM
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Might want to increase the ethanol blend. It will lower gas prices.
You are either being sarcastic or are uninformed.

Ethanol cost more per BTU to produce than gasoline does. So putting more of it in gasoline will up the cost (ignoring government subsidies).
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Old 07-13-18, 10:58 AM
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Might want to increase the ethanol blend. It will lower gas prices.
And destroy your lawnmower.
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Old 07-13-18, 11:14 AM
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You are either being sarcastic or are uninformed.

Ethanol cost more per BTU to produce than gasoline does. So putting more of it in gasoline will up the cost (ignoring government subsidies).

Prove it. Just how much money has been spent to defend our oil supply? There has been no American blood shed to protect our ethanol supply. You can't say that about oil. You can send your kids and grandkids over to that middle east hell hole, but don't ask me to send mine.
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Old 07-13-18, 11:14 AM
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And destroy your lawnmower.

Prove it. I use it in all my gas engines......no trouble at all.

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Old 07-13-18, 11:20 AM
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Prove it.
Not sure if you're serious?
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Old 07-13-18, 12:03 PM
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Prove it. Just how much money has been spent to defend our oil supply?

Less money than if we didn't defend it.


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There has been no American blood shed to protect our ethanol supply. You can't say that about oil. .
There has no blood spilled over protection of our ethanol supply; there have been plenty of dead over an economic disaster, like the Great Depression, plenty of food, the problem was no one was able to afford it and prices for food crashed, bankrupting farmers which further exacerbated the economic downward spiral.
Some estimates of the Great Depression are 7 million died [10% of NYC for ex] in the US. Malnutrition being blamed, we used to have hospitals for specific diseases, for example who has heard of Pellagra, there were entire hospitals* dedicated to it.
The reason why the US is sensitive to economic threats is you pay one way or another.


*malnutrition being the cause: there were specific hospitals for diseases

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Old 07-13-18, 01:02 PM
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Prove it. I use it in all my gas engines......no trouble at all.
Same here for years. SeaFoam does wonders for small engines.
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Old 07-13-18, 01:10 PM
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Less money than if we didn't defend it.




There has no blood spilled over protection of our ethanol supply; there have been plenty of dead over an economic disaster, like the Great Depression, plenty of food, the problem was no one was able to afford it and prices for food crashed, bankrupting farmers which further exacerbated the economic downward spiral.
Some estimates of the Great Depression are 7 million died [10% of NYC for ex] in the US. Malnutrition being blamed, we used to have hospitals for specific diseases, for example who has heard of Pellagra, there were entire hospitals* dedicated to it.
The reason why the US is sensitive to economic threats is you pay one way or another.


*malnutrition being the cause: there were specific hospitals for diseases
So....you really think that people will starve because of ethanol and that it will cause an economic disaster? Wow.

You had better start boycotting food companies due to their price of food. Farm prices are at their lowest in 10 years and yet food costs are not going down. (with the exception of dairy products). There is not and will never be a food shortage because of ethanol. There will be however, be more American blood shed to defend our oil supply.
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