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Old 04-11-18, 07:45 AM
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Sports budgets at Ohio Universities

Interesting article on Cleveland.com regarding the sports budgets at Ohio universities-

http://www.cleveland.com/expo/erry-2...incart_m-rpt-1
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Old 04-11-18, 08:27 AM
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Read the whole series of articles that also feature stories on what assistant and head coaches in different sports

Some excellent and shocking numbers in there
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My daughter plays soccer at UC. They were told they would be driving (busing) to all away games next season. The rule was if its over a 5 hour drive they flew. I assume its a budget thing.
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Anyone notice our liberal public universities are paying men much more to coach the same sport as the women? Looks like ticket revenue is not making up the difference.

This says a lot about what is important in our society.
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Old 04-11-18, 01:24 PM
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My daughter plays soccer at UC. They were told they would be driving (busing) to all away games next season. The rule was if its over a 5 hour drive they flew. I assume its a budget thing.
Other non-revenue sports at UC just end up playing against schools closer to the campus then trek all over the eastern half of the country to take on AAC foes. So instead of flying to Texas to have a swim meet with SMU or Houston they drive a couple hours and take on UK or Miami. Maybe sports like soccer, volleyball, lacrosse, etc... should do the same and have the AAC be just for the revenue sports?
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Anyone notice our liberal public universities are paying men much more to coach the same sport as the women? Looks like ticket revenue is not making up the difference.

This says a lot about what is important in our society.
My neighbor wrote a 2 million dollar check from his business to OU for new scoreboards. Someone just wrote a 10 million check to OU for football. College is a business and you better have a nice football and basketball stadium or your enrollment will drop.

I can't believe the girls basketball coach makes 300,000 dollars a year for all 500 fans at OU
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Old 04-11-18, 03:42 PM
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I'd be suspecting some school's data. BG has about the same expenses as UT but over 2% better covered by ticket revenue? There's never anyone at a BG game; football, men's or women's basketball. I bet they're including revenues from high school sports held on campus.
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I bet they're including revenues from high school sports held on campus.
What would that be?
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Too many of these schools try to provide too much when it comes to athletics. I prefer the Georgetown/Gonzaga model where the school picks its poison and focuses on a sport or two.
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Too many of these schools try to provide too much when it comes to athletics. I prefer the Georgetown/Gonzaga model where the school picks its poison and focuses on a sport or two.
Toledo Rockets -15 varsity sports

BGSU Falcons - 17 varsity sports

Georgetown Hoyas - 25 varsity sports
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Other non-revenue sports at UC just end up playing against schools closer to the campus then trek all over the eastern half of the country to take on AAC foes. So instead of flying to Texas to have a swim meet with SMU or Houston they drive a couple hours and take on UK or Miami. Maybe sports like soccer, volleyball, lacrosse, etc... should do the same and have the AAC be just for the revenue sports?
I'd probably be ok with this. I worry, however, how difficult it would be to schedule the slots now filled by AAC opponents with local teams like Indiana, Purdue, Notre Dame, UK, Pitt , Miami that will be playing their Acc, Big Ten games the last 3/5 of the season. Also will make it more difficult to advance to the NCAA tournament w/o a league affiliation.
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Toledo Rockets -15 varsity sports

BGSU Falcons - 17 varsity sports

Georgetown Hoyas - 25 varsity sports
I get the numbers. I mean the financial focus.
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Anyone notice our liberal public universities are paying men much more to coach the same sport as the women? Looks like ticket revenue is not making up the difference.

This says a lot about what is important in our society.
One gender's sports generate significantly more publicity for the schools with the exception of some dominant female program's like UConn women's hoops, so the universities will pony up the greenbacks to keep the publicity machine in motion.
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Toledo Rockets -15 varsity sports

BGSU Falcons - 17 varsity sports

Georgetown Hoyas - 25 varsity sports
Georgetown is non-scholarship when it comes to football which makes a gigantic difference. UT and BGSU have cut successful men's sports programs (wrestling & track/cc) in order to comply with Title IX.

Coaching salaries have exploded and need to be curbed somehow. Businesses running at a deficit at the taxpayers expense should not be able to pay what these universities pay for football and basketball coaches.

Fifteen years ago the HC at Toledo made $185,000. Today he is paid $850,000.
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Georgetown is non-scholarship when it comes to football which makes a gigantic difference. UT and BGSU have cut successful men's sports programs (wrestling & track/cc) in order to comply with Title IX.

Coaching salaries have exploded and need to be curbed somehow. Businesses running at a deficit at the taxpayers expense should not be able to pay what these universities pay for football and basketball coaches.

Fifteen years ago the HC at Toledo made $185,000. Today he is paid $850,000.
Decades ago I thought the whole MAC should have gone D1-AA, today's FCS. Less emphasis, less money (I think) and a chance to compete for an actual national championship.

The whole system is seriously out of whack.
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Decades ago I thought the whole MAC should have gone D1-AA, today's FCS. Less emphasis, less money (I think) and a chance to compete for an actual national championship.

The whole system is seriously out of whack.
Agreed. The perfect example is the University of Akron football program versus the YSU program. UA spends a ton playing mediocre D1 football while YSU is competitive in the FCS and occasionally wins a championship. I will take YSU's football legacy.
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Agreed. The perfect example is the University of Akron football program versus the YSU program. UA spends a ton playing mediocre D1 football while YSU is competitive in the FCS and occasionally wins a championship. I will take YSU's football legacy.
I was at BGSU when they eliminated wrestling, and Ohio has great high school wrestling.

At the same time, the nationally ranked hockey team was almost all Canadians.

Tax money for foreigners, but not for Ohio kids.
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I was at BGSU when they eliminated wrestling, and Ohio has great high school wrestling.

At the same time, the nationally ranked hockey team was almost all Canadians.

Tax money for foreigners, but not for Ohio kids.
You should see the rosters for the Olympic sports.
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You should see the rosters for the Olympic sports.
At least in my mind, that is a different thing.

I think that state universities, paid for with Ohio taxpayers' money, should prioritize Ohio's children, or at least workers we need for Ohio industries.

Just my opinion.
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So are media revenue and tournament revenue included in this $$?

And remember those Contributions are tax deductible. So all of us are subsidizing these School Athletic Programs.
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