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Old 04-10-18, 01:21 PM
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Kroger stores closing/ Jesse Jackson upset

Seriously folks, you can't make this stuff up...

So the idea is that if businesses don't make money, they can't sustain themselves. Well several Kroger stores have to close due to poor performance, for the lay person, they are losing money hand over fist. Sure, in any chain operation you have some of the overperforming stores help out the underperforming stores...to a certain degree.

Well guess where the underperforming stores are at?? Predominately black neighborhoods. Now this isn't race baiting, this is factual. One of the biggest issues -- outside of people not feeling safe shopping there is ---shrinkage. Again to the lay person - theft, shoplifting, sticky fingers, five finger discount.

Of course Kroger's owners, who should be able to make decision that affect their stores, make these decisions because they are in the business to make money.
But wait a minute...Jesse Jackson is now going to protest because Kroger shouldn't close stores in black neighborhoods ....well what do you expect them to do??? Open their doors and lose money????
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Old 04-10-18, 06:35 PM
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Nobody likes it when companies lose money, but for Kroger to create a food desert and potentially starve American Citizens is a bridge too far.

We as Americans are counting on Kroger to feed these fellow Americans. To cut and run due to shrinkage issues is not being good citizens on the part of Kroger.

The people have came to expect free food so free food is what Kroger should supply.
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Old 04-10-18, 06:48 PM
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Jesus what a bad take.

Hope that isnt serious...hard to tell on a message board
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Old 04-10-18, 06:51 PM
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Nobody likes it when companies lose money, but for Kroger to create a food desert and potentially starve American Citizens is a bridge too far.

We as Americans are counting on Kroger to feed these fellow Americans. To cut and run due to shrinkage issues is not being good citizens on the part of Kroger.

The people have came to expect free food so free food is what Kroger should supply.
Sadly some people think like that.
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Old 04-10-18, 06:53 PM
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https://t.co/c5AkjLmJns?amp=1

Kroger is hiring 11,000 people over the next 3 years

Also stated that they will invest some of the money from tax breaks into their employees


What role does Amazon play in these store closures
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Old 04-10-18, 06:57 PM
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Kroger lost over 5 million on the Walnut Hills Store since 2010 and expected to lose 900,000 this year had they stayed open. The store was rundown as well.

They also stated no jobs were lost bc of the closure
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Old 04-10-18, 09:20 PM
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There was a time 20 some years ago when the customer count at Walnut Hills Kroger's was consistently one of the highest in the region.
They achieved the head count by having so many walk up shoppers visit the store multiple times per day, using it like a convenient store. Head count was up, spending per transaction was low and shrinkage was off the charts compared to other stores. Multiply those losses for decades and it's incredible Kroger's stayed as long as they did.

Not sure if there is a store there anymore or not but the Avondale town center location went through multiple independent grocery store chains that were ran quite well. Unfortunately they succumbed to the same problems and one after another failed. The head count was again there but the theft was unmanageable. These were good people trying to serve the community but the bad elements overcame the good people who tried to support their local store.
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Old 04-11-18, 07:21 AM
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Is something preventing Jesse Jackson from opening a grocery store where Kroger used to be?
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Old 04-11-18, 07:47 AM
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I watched a video of Jesse commenting on the Cincinnati location closing - man, when did he get to be so old? - and he kept saying "people die" when Kroger closes a store. That's a bit over the top, but then again it IS Jesse Jackson.

There was quite a similar hubbub when Kroger recently closed the Kroger at Northern Lights shopping center in Columbus, although Mr. Jackson hasn't graced us with his presence that I know of. That store lost $2.5 million in the last 5 years; the shopping center already lost a Sears outlet store in the last two years, its only other anchor. The heyday for that neighborhood has come and gone.

The biggest complaint about that Kroger appeared to come from folks who lived nearby and could walk to that Kroger, but that's a luxury not given to most of us. There is a Save-A-Lot across the street -it's not perfect, but it is an option for basics. There is a Dollar General one-third of a mile away, and that suffices very well for dairy, canned goods, and dry staples.

And there are still two Kroger stores that are both 3 miles away from the Northern Lights location.

Life is tough. The nearest Kroger and Walmart for me is 4 miles away, and there's a Dollar General three miles away. We have a little corner store technically within walking distance , but it's too small to even call it a bodega.
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Old 04-11-18, 08:43 AM
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Krogers will be opening a superstore on the edge of OTR next year and has had a store in OTR on Vine Street for 70 years. I don't see poor people starving, in fact there is clearly a weight problem with American poor.
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Old 04-11-18, 09:10 AM
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Krogers will be opening a superstore on the edge of OTR next year and has had a store in OTR on Vine Street for 70 years. I don't see poor people starving, in fact there is clearly a weight problem with American poor.
The new Kroger building will be in Downtown, not OTR. The OTR on Vine is over 2 miles away from the old E McMillian location. Not sure how relevant that is for people who do not have a car.
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Old 04-11-18, 09:32 AM
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plenty of food in neo. sad to hear swo is so racist
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Old 04-11-18, 09:52 AM
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The new Kroger building will be in Downtown, not OTR. The OTR on Vine is over 2 miles away from the old E McMillian location. Not sure how relevant that is for people who do not have a car.
When the WH location first closed they had a shuttle for people to go to the new Clifton store. Do they not have that any longer?
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Old 04-11-18, 09:55 AM
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plenty of food in neo. sad to hear swo is so racist
Kroger >>>>>> Giant Eagle
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Old 04-11-18, 09:57 AM
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The new Kroger building will be in Downtown, not OTR. The OTR on Vine is over 2 miles away from the old E McMillian location. Not sure how relevant that is for people who do not have a car.
I was commenting on the poor's access to Krogers stores in Cincinnati in general, not a particular neighborhood. So, OK, the new store at Court Street will be one block out of OTR. Still very accessible to OTR residents. Between the Kroger stores and Findley Market, together with the shops around Findley Mkt which are open daily, I think we can agree that OTR and the West End are pretty well covered. As far as Walnut Hills is concerned, its true that the Court Street store will be 2 miles away, however, in taking that route you would come very near the new Corryville (Short Vine) store less than a mile away. In addition, if you have checked out E. McMillian lately you would see that the area is booming and that there are food options already there (some more pricey) and there will be more to come.

The market will take care of this if the politicos don't get in the way. Any acute problem can be addressed. I have already seen grocer wagons down in Lower Price Hill where the City and Price Hill Will forced Meiser's Market out of business.

Krogers is not the problem. It is just a deep pocket that the Poverty Pimps can target.

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Old 04-11-18, 11:26 AM
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When the WH location first closed they had a shuttle for people to go to the new Clifton store. Do they not have that any longer?
No.
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Old 04-11-18, 11:44 AM
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I watched a video of Jesse commenting on the Cincinnati location closing - man, when did he get to be so old? -
He had a hard time being a " professional black " under the Obamma administration. Al Sharpton pretty much took up residence in the white house while Jesse was an after thought. Some say he was banned from the White House. He rolled the dice on Hillary winning and it cost him.
Throw in rising star junior embezzling 3/4 of a million dollars for toys and his wife filing false tax returns for hundreds of thousands and his brand suffered more.
Hard to keep a shake down going when family members are in jail for their own shake down.
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Old 04-11-18, 01:05 PM
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Kroger >>>>>> Giant Eagle
Yes, you have the government built grocery there in Cleveland. Tax payer money providing a space for retail grocery and veggie sales. When government builds the space guess we are garenteed plenty of food?
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Old 04-11-18, 03:46 PM
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He had a hard time being a " professional black " under the Obamma administration. Al Sharpton pretty much took up residence in the white house while Jesse was an after thought. Some say he was banned from the White House. He rolled the dice on Hillary winning and it cost him.
Throw in rising star junior embezzling 3/4 of a million dollars for toys and his wife filing false tax returns for hundreds of thousands and his brand suffered more.
Hard to keep a shake down going when family members are in jail for their own shake down.
Don't forget his mistress with the baby.

JJ's worth went from 200K in 2010 to 10 million today. He can pay those Kroger losses and keep a store in any neighborhood of his choice.
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Old 04-11-18, 07:53 PM
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Seriously, how do these guys gain such a position of power in the Black Community? Where does their authority come from? They’re scam artists whose power goes unchallenged, It’s like if Alex Jones or Rush Limbaugh were seen as the mouthpiece of white Americans.
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Old 04-11-18, 08:33 PM
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Seriously, how do these guys gain such a position of power in the Black Community? Where does their authority come from? They’re scam artists whose power goes unchallenged, It’s like if Alex Jones or Rush Limbaugh were seen as the mouthpiece of white Americans.
Jesse was the spiritual advisor to the Clintons. Especially Bill. They had a lot in common.
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Old 04-11-18, 08:49 PM
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I still think Vinton County doesn't have a grocery store in the whole county
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Old 04-13-18, 03:25 PM
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I would think this would be a great help to some entrepreneur looking to break into the local market. See no reason why Krogers should be forced to enter markets they don't want to.
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Old 04-17-18, 03:15 PM
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Jesus what a bad take.

Hope that isnt serious...hard to tell on a message board
What's wrong with this take?? Don't see many threads that you start/???
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Old 04-17-18, 03:16 PM
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Is something preventing Jesse Jackson from opening a grocery store where Kroger used to be?
He's not in the grocery business, he's in the whining and enabling business, and he does it very well. Not worked a day in his life.
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Old 04-17-18, 03:21 PM
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This reminds me of the ads on TV now criticizing advertising cigarettes in poor neighborhoods...well, they BUY the most cigs?? That's good marketing to me??
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Old 04-17-18, 03:30 PM
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I'm sure Kroger would be open to selling the store to Mr. Jackson if he's so passionate about groceries.
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Old 04-17-18, 04:45 PM
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What's wrong with this take?? Don't see many threads that you start/???
My response wasnt directed towards you. Jesse Jackson is a POS. Did you miss my other posts on this thread about how absurd he is to dictate what Kroger should do?
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Old 04-24-18, 05:29 PM
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They still are writing about this problem in the Dayton paper. They keep reporting how there are this many people that are not close to a store (that is within walking distance) The day of the small independent grocery stores have been gone long ago. The large store do not seem to get enough business to have them in some areas and have a real problem making a profit. Now for my last though as long as these people are close to a carryout that has a good supply of beer and wine, what have they to complain about?
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Old 04-24-18, 05:37 PM
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Seriously folks, you can't make this stuff up...

So the idea is that if businesses don't make money, they can't sustain themselves. Well several Kroger stores have to close due to poor performance, for the lay person, they are losing money hand over fist. Sure, in any chain operation you have some of the overperforming stores help out the underperforming stores...to a certain degree.

Well guess where the underperforming stores are at?? Predominately black neighborhoods. Now this isn't race baiting, this is factual. One of the biggest issues -- outside of people not feeling safe shopping there is ---shrinkage. Again to the lay person - theft, shoplifting, sticky fingers, five finger discount.

Of course Kroger's owners, who should be able to make decision that affect their stores, make these decisions because they are in the business to make money.
But wait a minute...Jesse Jackson is now going to protest because Kroger shouldn't close stores in black neighborhoods ....well what do you expect them to do??? Open their doors and lose money????
Jesse needs Dave's Eagle Supermarkets, ghetto grocer par excellence. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave%27s_Markets
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