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Old 02-20-19, 02:48 PM
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Seeding was VERY surprising considering records and schedules?
Old Fort could bite someone, not so sure about Calvert. How do you see the teams finishing if the TAAC and SBC (River) were combined?

Sandusky Bay Conf. (River Div.)
Old Fort 16 - 5 12 - 1
Sandusky St. Mary 16 - 5 11 - 2
Tiffin Calvert 13 - 8 10 - 3
New Riegel 8 - 11 6 - 6
Gibsonburg 7 - 13 5 - 7
Fremont St. Joseph 9 - 12 4 - 9
Danbury 5 - 16 2 - 11
Lakota 2 - 18 1 - 12

24-37 Non League Record

Toledo Area Athletic Conference
Cardinal Stritch 18 - 3 8 - 1
Toledo Christian 16 - 5 6 - 3
Maumee Valley Country Day 15 - 5 6 - 3
Ottawa Hills 14 - 5 6 - 3
Emmanuel Christian 9 - 11 1 - 8
Northwood 5 - 16 0 - 9

50-18 Non League Record
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Old 02-20-19, 03:01 PM
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It is interesting that MVCD took on Mohawk in that bracket- we shall see!
MVCD already lost to Ottawa Hills twice and got taken down to the wire by Toledo Christian, who is far better than anyone is giving them credit for. TC is consistently the top 1 or 2 prepared teams I see every year. They won't look like much warming up, but spread the floor with 5 guys at all times who can shoot it or take you off the dribble. The also play very solid defense and never take a play off.

I have not seen Mohawk so no predictions from me.

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Old 02-20-19, 03:14 PM
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MVCD already lost to Ottawa Hills twice and got taken down to the wire by Toledo Christian, who is far better than anyone is giving them credit for. TC is consistently the top 1 or 2 prepared teams I see every year. They won't look like much warming up, but spread the floor with 5 guys at all times who can shoot it or take you of the dribble. The also play very solid defense.

I have not seen Mohawk so no predictions from me.
I know MVCD has one very talented player - in the one game I saw Toledo Christian play ( McComb - who isn't very good) they had to take them to OT to win? I just think the seeds were more dominated by the TAAC coaches overall - but hey that is why they play the games & we shall see - the tournament trail is almost upon us
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Old 02-20-19, 03:26 PM
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I know MVCD has one very talented player - in the one game I saw Toledo Christian play ( McComb - who isn't very good) they had to take them to OT to win? I just think the seeds were more dominated by the TAAC coaches overall - but hey that is why they play the games & we shall see - the tournament trail is almost upon us
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MVCD is more than Jackson, but need to put it all together (after Friday). They have 4 double digit scorers.

Obviously Jackson is tough, but the soph Coleman has a chance to play D1 also. Pretty skilled and very athletic at 6'3".

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Old 02-20-19, 03:51 PM
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I know MVCD has one very talented player - in the one game I saw Toledo Christian play ( McComb - who isn't very good) they had to take them to OT to win? I just think the seeds were more dominated by the TAAC coaches overall - but hey that is why they play the games & we shall see - the tournament trail is almost upon us
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4 TAAC coaches and 4 SBC River coaches and a Northern 10 team gets the top seed so I'm not sure how the TAAC coaches dominated the seeding. There was at least one TAAC coach scouting Mohawk @ Seneca East the night before the draw. Was probably trying to figure whether to go on Mohawk's or MVCD's side of the bracket. I sure wasn't expecting MVCD go on Mohawk's side.

If you look at each team's resume at the time of the draw, the #1 through #5 seeds in that order make sense.
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Old 02-20-19, 04:19 PM
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N10 is a decent league this year as Mohawk was challenged by Upper Sandusky (d3) and Carey (d3) and Colonel Crawford (who is a top seed in their d4 district). Mohawk has a strong senior class of 4 kids who have played together on varsity for 3 years. 3 really physical and athletic guards and a 6-4 240 pound post player. Their best guard is a 1000 point scorer. They shoot a lot of threes and like to get out in transition some too. Regional team last year and I do not think they will be intimidated by MVCD. I would still favor MV and TC over Mohawk but it would not shock me if Mohawk beat them either.
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Old 02-21-19, 04:33 PM
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Perhaps a more humble approach would be appropriate here.
Play us next year. Not losing to any bums anymore. We will bring heat.
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Old 02-21-19, 05:31 PM
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Fragile things even on the strongest. If I tell someone my knee is bothering me, that's a roll-eyes. If a strong non-whiney athlete says it, coach says, "sorry, sit." Hindsight.

In this day and age of see-everything tech, have to imagine there was no tearing, just one of the knee boys weakened enough to not be able to keep up leading to catastrophic failure of the whole structure.

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Old 02-22-19, 06:03 AM
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Old Fort could bite someone, not so sure about Calvert. How do you see the teams finishing if the TAAC and SBC (River) were combined?

Sandusky Bay Conf. (River Div.)
Old Fort 16 - 5 12 - 1
Sandusky St. Mary 16 - 5 11 - 2
Tiffin Calvert 13 - 8 10 - 3
New Riegel 8 - 11 6 - 6
Gibsonburg 7 - 13 5 - 7
Fremont St. Joseph 9 - 12 4 - 9
Danbury 5 - 16 2 - 11
Lakota 2 - 18 1 - 12

24-37 Non League Record

Toledo Area Athletic Conference
Cardinal Stritch 18 - 3 8 - 1
Toledo Christian 16 - 5 6 - 3
Maumee Valley Country Day 15 - 5 6 - 3
Ottawa Hills 14 - 5 6 - 3
Emmanuel Christian 9 - 11 1 - 8
Northwood 5 - 16 0 - 9

50-18 Non League Record
I think it would be interesting - honestly, neither league has great history getting out of the ALWAYS tough NW Ohio D4 regional.( Ottawa Hills is the only team I can think of that has - at least in the past 15-20 years?) Based upon this year tournament draw we will have a better idea - you have some great stats I will give you that & made me pause in my thinking - the top of the TAAC specifically Stritch has a ton of talent & the bottom of the SBC river is really bad!!
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Old 02-22-19, 03:48 PM
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Here you go Smalls, this would be my guess on a combined league. I just don't think the SRL would match up well with the talent and coaching in the upper part of the TAAC. The non league part of the SRL schedules wasn't pretty. Virtually no quality wins over big schools or good records.


Best wins

Cardinal Stritch 18 - 3 8 - 1 Norwalk, TCC, Sonic Slam
Toledo Christian 16 - 5 6 - 3 Stritch
Ottawa Hills 14 - 5 6 - 3 MVCDx2, Clay
Maumee Valley Country Day 15 - 5 6 - 3 Stryker, Rogers, TC
Old Fort 16 - 5 12 - 1
Sandusky St. Mary 16 - 5 11 - 2
Tiffin Calvert 13 - 8 10 - 3
New Riegel 8 - 11 6 - 6
Gibsonburg 7 - 13 5 - 7
Emmanuel Christian 9 - 11 1 - 8
Fremont St. Joseph 9 - 12 4 - 9
Northwood 5 - 16 0 - 9
Danbury 5 - 16 2 - 11
Lakota 2 - 18 1 - 12

SRL 24-37 Non League Record
TAAC 50-18 Non League Record
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Old 02-23-19, 10:45 AM
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Cardinals throttle MVCDS for back to back league championships. OH appears to be peaking at the right time.
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Old 02-23-19, 11:09 AM
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Here you go Smalls, this would be my guess on a combined league. I just don't think the SRL would match up well with the talent and coaching in the upper part of the TAAC. The non league part of the SRL schedules wasn't pretty. Virtually no quality wins over big schools or good records.


Best wins

Cardinal Stritch 18 - 3 8 - 1 Norwalk, TCC, Sonic Slam
Toledo Christian 16 - 5 6 - 3 Stritch
Ottawa Hills 14 - 5 6 - 3 MVCDx2, Clay
Maumee Valley Country Day 15 - 5 6 - 3 Stryker, Rogers, TC
Old Fort 16 - 5 12 - 1
Sandusky St. Mary 16 - 5 11 - 2
Tiffin Calvert 13 - 8 10 - 3
New Riegel 8 - 11 6 - 6
Gibsonburg 7 - 13 5 - 7
Emmanuel Christian 9 - 11 1 - 8
Fremont St. Joseph 9 - 12 4 - 9
Northwood 5 - 16 0 - 9
Danbury 5 - 16 2 - 11
Lakota 2 - 18 1 - 12

SRL 24-37 Non League Record
TAAC 50-18 Non League Record

Sandusky St Mary beat D2 Perkins and D2 Port Clinton, who is normally a solid club, but is down this year and D2 Huron (also having a down year, but always a solid program....and also D3 Oak Harbor, who has a chance to make some noise in the tourney. Their schedule is as tough as anyone in the TAAC, other than Stritch. They would be a top 3 TAAC team every year
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Old 02-24-19, 10:11 PM
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Cardinals throttle MVCDS for back to back league championships. OH appears to be peaking at the right time.
Stritch will have a tough go of it to get to state, but they have already had a heckuva year.

What is it that Lindsay is doing over at OH? The cupboard should be damn near bare, yet he pulls out 2nd place in what should be a down year.

How is he doing it?
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Old 02-24-19, 10:44 PM
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Unsure? And he does it all so calmly.
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Old 02-24-19, 10:55 PM
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2017-2018 Results (returning teams only)

Cardinal Stritch 21 - 1 14 - 0
Toledo Christian 18 - 4 11 - 3
Maumee Valley Country Day 17 - 5 10 - 4
Ottawa Hills 12 - 9 9 - 5
Emmanuel Christian 9 - 12 4 - 10
Northwood 2 - 20 1 - 13

Maumee Valley, Cardinal Stritch and Toledo Christian lost a lot to graduation, but MVCDS and CS have a have a ton coming back. Ottawa Hills has everyone back.

Losing a couple teams to the SBC opens up 4 non-conference games.
From the 1st post of the thread.

Coil didn't play but everyone else was back. Probably had as many returning minutes as anyone in the league and of course a good coach and players willing to execute his stuff.
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Old 02-25-19, 12:03 PM
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Sandusky St Mary beat D2 Perkins and D2 Port Clinton, who is normally a solid club, but is down this year and D2 Huron (also having a down year, but always a solid program....and also D3 Oak Harbor, who has a chance to make some noise in the tourney. Their schedule is as tough as anyone in the TAAC, other than Stritch. They would be a top 3 TAAC team every year
None of this matters, since now they all just have to play the games, but I'll try and be a fact checker comparing St. Mary's to Ottawa Hills schedule.

No one on St Mary's schedule is at the level of;

Archbold 22-0
Evergreen 18-4
Cardinal Stritch x2 19-3

and it could be argued that the top teams on their schedule are at or below, but not above the following;

Pettisville 16-6
Maumee Valley Country Day 16-6
Maumee Valley Country Day 16-6
Toledo Christian 16-6
Toledo Christian 16-6

or even Clay who lost to Sandusky Perkins by 2 and also lost to Ottawa Hills.
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Old 02-25-19, 04:33 PM
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TAAC finals so far

Cardinal Stritch 19-3 9-1 champs
Ottawa Hills 15-5 7-3
Toledo Christian 16-6 6-4
Maumee Valley 15-6 6-4
Emm Christian 10-11 2-8
Northwood 5-17 0-10

Cardinal Stritch is the class of the TAAC, they played a beefed up schedule and it showed, demolished MV everytime no contest. (btw for that kid to be going to Michigan how is it he doesn't look like the best player on the floor everytime? more later)

OH comes in second phenomenal job by coach Lindsey given his team was young and undersize, Cummings plays hard and relentless.

TC - another McWhinnie special, adjust to what he has plays 4 and 5 out and TC will not beat themselves, solid on defense and good adjustments.

MV- With all that talent gotta be disappointing two years in a row not winning the league with the district player of the year. (also who did they actual beat, what good team outside of league play? Kid never shined in the big games vs Cardinal Stritch)

EC decent year gonna be interesting with Armstead taking over next year, if he can get some talent EC might be a force to reckon with.

Northwood ..... one day now that they have open enrollment we will wait and see.
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Old 02-25-19, 04:58 PM
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Northwood ..... one day now that they have open enrollment we will wait and see.

They already have open enrollment, no? They're just not as good at it as Stritch.
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Old 02-25-19, 10:10 PM
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They already have open enrollment, no? They're just not as good at it as Stritch.
Maybe they'd be better at developing their talent if their JV coaches weren't on the phone on the bench...
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Old 02-25-19, 10:15 PM
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Maybe they'd be better at developing their talent if their JV coaches weren't on the phone on the bench...



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He looks under 30. Those things are glued on. Might be an ear ring. ear....ring. lol. I slay me.
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Old 02-25-19, 10:29 PM
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Maybe they'd be better at developing their talent if their JV coaches weren't on the phone on the bench...
Lol.

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Old 02-26-19, 10:39 AM
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And Woodward beats MV (without Jackson & Coleman).
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Old 02-26-19, 11:00 AM
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And Woodward beats MV (without Jackson & Coleman).
ZEB ok? Coleman was in street clothes vs Stritch as well. Hopefully nothing too serious for either.
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Old 02-26-19, 01:58 PM
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Coaches decision to rest Jackson, Coleman no word he missed last two games.
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Old 02-26-19, 04:43 PM
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True they need a better coach that kids want to play for. I know of a couple of kids from Waite who were supposed to go but decided to wait a year. Not on the level of Burton, Holifield but maybe could make them respectable.
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Old 02-27-19, 09:00 AM
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Old Fort could bite someone, not so sure about Calvert.
Or not. Calvert knocked off Old Fort.

TAAC teams in the tournament.

Northwood beat Delta by 2.
Emmanual Christian lost to Fremont St. Joe by 2.

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Old 03-02-19, 11:44 AM
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OH losing round one was a big surprise. Or is Calvert that good?
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Old 03-04-19, 08:38 AM
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Maumee Valley 73
Hopewell Louden 30

Maumee Valley moves on vs #1 seed Mowhawk in District Semi Final

Toledo Christian 65
Fremont St. Joe 41

Toledo Christian moves on vs Tiffin Calvert who has knocked off 2 teams seeded higher than them. Maybe the seeding question above has some merit.

Ottawa Hills 39
Tiffin Calvert 43

5 for 12 foul shooting hurt Ottawa Hills in a tight game.


Cardinal Stritch 77
Northwood 21

Stritch moves on to District Semi vs #4 seed Elmwood

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Old 03-04-19, 10:14 AM
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OH losing round one was a big surprise. Or is Calvert that good?
I saw OH play a couple times this year and have felt like they have been punching above their weight all year. Not sure why, but it always seemed like the outcomes were better than the team looked. I know I sound crazy, but besides Cummings, I wasn't overly impressed.

Didn't see Calvert this year, so I can't say how good they were.
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Old 03-04-19, 10:50 AM
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OH losing round one was a big surprise. Or is Calvert that good?
Calvert went 1-7 during the regular season against teams that finished over .500. Watched Calvert against Old Fort last week. They looked good against an Old Fort team that had handled them easily both times during the regular season. Still was surprised that they beat Ottawa Hills.
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