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Old 09-26-17, 07:57 AM
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Once SWMC stops parading himself as a conservative in favor of small government, I'll stop. Unless it continues to bother you, then I'll still do it.
So, what exactly does a downsized government look like to you? I mean, based on your posts you aren't exactly clear on that. You like to throw crap-bombs but what does a small federal government look like?
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Old 09-26-17, 08:42 AM
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So, what exactly does a downsized government look like to you? I mean, based on your posts you aren't exactly clear on that. You like to throw crap-bombs but what does a small federal government look like?
For starters: it doesn't get involved in personal decisions on what to consume. Be it sugar (big glups), alcohol, drugs, etc. I have been pretty clear on that.
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Old 09-26-17, 01:46 PM
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For starters: it doesn't get involved in personal decisions on what to consume. Be it sugar (big glups), alcohol, drugs, etc. I have been pretty clear on that.
Okay, so you would support the complete defunding of the ATF? I would assume that if you don't want government making decisions on alcohol and tobacco that they should not limit possession or types of firearms.

Same for the FDA? That drug companies should produce what they want and let the public decide what is safe and not safe?

Same for the Department of Education? Let parents decide where they want their kids to go to school and what they should learn or even if they should learn.

I mean some people have clear vision for things that they want free access to or what to prevent people from doing, but get a little squeamish if it treads on something that they care about. So my question should probably be more along the lines of what role should the federal government play at all?
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Old 09-26-17, 02:14 PM
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Okay, so you would support the complete defunding of the ATF? I would assume that if you don't want government making decisions on alcohol and tobacco that they should not limit possession or types of firearms.
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Same for the FDA? That drug companies should produce what they want and let the public decide what is safe and not safe?
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Same for the Department of Education? Let parents decide where they want their kids to go to school and what they should learn or even if they should learn.
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I mean some people have clear vision for things that they want free access to or what to prevent people from doing, but get a little squeamish if it treads on something that they care about.
Such as yourself.

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So my question should probably be more along the lines of what role should the federal government play at all?
The Constitution outlined what the Federal governments role is supposed to be, everything outside of that should be handled by the states.
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Old 09-26-17, 05:03 PM
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Yes
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So actually in an ideal world, we agree on most everything. I'm really not squeamish about shutting things down that aren't covered by the Constitution. In fact, that's been noted on many occasions.
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Old 09-28-17, 05:17 PM
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Though I am all for as small of a government footprint as we can realistically have, the entire reason there is a government is because most people cannot handle personal responsibility, and thereby need rules, laws and standards. In short, society needs protection from itself. Always has, and always will.
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Old 09-28-17, 05:37 PM
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I'd say that's the role of ideology not government. Government is there to protect rights, settle disagreements, and provide military protection.
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Old 09-28-17, 05:44 PM
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I'd say that's the role of ideology not government. Government is there to protect rights, settle disagreements, and provide military protection.
I suggest you check the definition of the word govern.
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Old 09-28-17, 05:51 PM
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I suggest you think
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Old 10-12-17, 05:22 PM
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Can I get a "Hell Yeah!!" ? It's about friggin' time -

https://www.thedailybeast.com/florid...e-drug-dealers
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Old 10-12-17, 09:18 PM
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Can I get a "Hell Yeah!!" ? It's about friggin' time -

https://www.thedailybeast.com/florid...e-drug-dealers
If only we'd streamline the appeals process so that we can clean out the death penalty backlogs too.
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Old 10-15-17, 08:51 PM
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60 Minutes had a former DEA guy on to "expose" the futility of the war on drugs. Anybody bother watching ?
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Old 10-15-17, 09:15 PM
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Anyone with half a brain already knew it was a useless/unwinnable war.
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Old 10-15-17, 09:58 PM
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The war on drugs is nothing more than a make-work program.
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Old 10-15-17, 10:08 PM
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Anyone with half a brain already knew it was a useless/unwinnable war.
Go nuke!! Execute the dealers!!
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Old 10-15-17, 10:13 PM
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Lol wut?
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Old 10-15-17, 10:19 PM
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Lol wut?
Take the war on drugs SERIOUSLY ! Execute the dealers!!
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Old 10-15-17, 10:22 PM
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Weed yeah but anyone that thinks meth and Heroin should be legal are stupid
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Old 10-15-17, 10:35 PM
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Weed yeah but anyone that thinks meth and Heroin should be legal are stupid
But they are top medical experts!?!
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Old 10-15-17, 10:37 PM
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Take the war on drugs SERIOUSLY ! Execute the dealers!!
So long as fast food restaurants and liquor stores are held to the same standard.
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Old 10-16-17, 07:30 AM
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Anyone with half a brain already knew it was a useless/unwinnable war.
How then, do you feel about gun bans?
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Old 10-16-17, 08:02 AM
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Against them.
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