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Old 10-16-18, 11:09 PM
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Alabama does not deserve to be in the playoffs unless it's undefeated

Alabama has been set up by the SEC scheduler to get to the playoffs. Every top SEC team has to face a rough schedule. LSU has this schedule: Auburn 4-3, La. Tech 4-2, Ole Miss 5-2, Fla. 6-1, Georgia 6-1, Miss State 4-2, and then Bama 7-0 before it gets a break. In the same period, Bama faces or faced Ole MIss 5-2, Tex A&M 5-2, La. Ragin Cajuns 3-3, Arkansas 1-6, Missouri 3-3. Their schedule does not have any tough back to back contest. LSU will have been in some major battles before thy battle. If Bama slips up and loses a game, it should be done. They have not played anyone and don't deserve to be in the NC playoffs.
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Old 10-17-18, 07:33 AM
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Same with Ohio State.
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Old 10-17-18, 07:40 AM
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...................... They have not played anyone and don't deserve to be in the NC playoffs.
Since the criteria for not being in the playoffs is "not played anyone" then the only teams in the playoffs would be the teams that beat "someone", the only "someone" would be Alabama.
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Old 10-17-18, 07:51 AM
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A one loss LSU deserves to be in before any other 1 loss team I believe but you have to wonder....will they put in two SEC teams?
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Old 10-17-18, 03:44 PM
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Doesn't the SEC rotate their division schedule? Just so happened Bama missed Florida and Georgia this year. That'll happen when you only play 8-conference games and 6 are in the division.

It will be interesting to see where the committee puts Bama though. Theyve been the most impressive team to watch, but they haven't really played anyone. LSU has the best wins of anyone (#8 Miami, #7 Auburn, #2 Georgia) but also a blemish to #22 Florida.
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Old 10-17-18, 04:14 PM
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They rotate their schedule but I believe (could be wrong) they have some automatic cross over games. For example Texas AM plays South Carolina every year and I believe Georgia plays Auburn every year. I think bama plays Tennessee every year. If they want to do it this way a 9 game schedule makes more sense IMO

They do seem to get an easy crossover schedule. They also have favorable schedule setups as far as bye weeks, how many weeks in a row they travel etc.

For this year Texas AM last home game was against UK on October 6th. The next time they play at Kyle Field will be November 10th. There is a bye week in there with 3 road games. When has Bama ever had 3 weeks straight of road games?

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Old 10-17-18, 06:58 PM
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I agree with this sentiment. They will be undefeated, though, so this is a non-issue.
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Old 10-17-18, 08:15 PM
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They shouldn’t be allowed in even if undefeated! The damn fans don’t even show up��
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Old 10-17-18, 08:55 PM
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If Bama doesn't go to the SEC championship, they should not get an at large bid. They have a schedule that really favors them. That can't be overlooked. If they had to play a couple of tough teams back to back they might lose more than one game. And they will lose to LSU this year. The problem is LSU might lose to MSU the week before.
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Old 10-18-18, 06:54 AM
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I don't think LSU is on the same level as Bama even though Bama hasnt beaten anyone of merit. I kind of question how good the LSU wins were. Georgia hasnt exactly beaten anyone of merit, time will tell with them. The win over Auburn looks worse every week. And the loss to Florida is a head scratcher bc I dont think Florida is very good. And does anyone think Miami is that good?

I know when you look at Bama's schedule they havent beaten anyone close to what LSU has. I think Bama beats LSU by +14
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Old 10-18-18, 05:21 PM
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It's hard to know how good Alabama is because they haven't played teams that have even close to the talent they have. Their best win is Texas A&M. I think LSU is going to get them. There were plays to be made by Missouri against Alabama and they just didn't execute. LSU is a much more talented team, and they will make the plays.
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Old 10-20-18, 01:05 PM
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Does Alabama ever schedule a "home and home" in non-conference against a power-5 school?
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Old 10-20-18, 01:34 PM
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It's hard to know how good Alabama is because they haven't played teams that have even close to the talent they have. Their best win is Texas A&M. I think LSU is going to get them. There were plays to be made by Missouri against Alabama and they just didn't execute. LSU is a much more talented team, and they will make the plays.
The problem is if bama gets beat we risk another moronic decision to have two teams from the same league get into the playoffs.
Yes, I know some will say their winning in both semi-finals is proof they should have been there.
Then it would be equally as logical to say the Big10 should have been awarded better bowls than the SEC, because they won a much higher percentage of games.
Then others say the bowls are not important anymore. Not important for who? What a lame excuse for a league like the SEC that had a losing record in the bowls.
Bottom line, win games, get a chance. That should be equal for every league.
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Old 10-20-18, 01:51 PM
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Does Alabama ever schedule a "home and home" in non-conference against a power-5 school?
In the last 10 years they played at
UK on 10/03/09
Duke on 09/18/10
PSU on 09/10/11
UK on 10/12/13

Other than that, the farthest north they have played in the last 10 years is in Tennessee.
PSU was the only non-league home/away.
Every other non-conference was neutral site.
Nobody manipulates a schedule better than bama.
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Old 10-20-18, 03:42 PM
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so answer is: once? vs Penn State
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Old 10-20-18, 04:33 PM
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The crossover schedule is a mute point. Tennessee is a "protected rivalry" game that they play every year, and they've been hot trash for several years now. They only see one of the other six SEC East teams in the regular season every year.

They should receive flack for only playing decent non-conference opponents at "neutral sites" in Atlanta and Dallas, as well as always having an FCS opponent on their slate (usually late in the season, essentially being an added bye week).

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Old 10-20-18, 09:31 PM
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how about Bama plays up North in November. Iíd love to see that never happen.
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Old 10-20-18, 10:40 PM
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Old 10-20-18, 11:32 PM
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how about Bama plays up North in November. Iíd love to see that never happen.
Considering most OOC games are played before November it is no surprise that it will never happen.

Their OOC last year wasn't really their fault with FSU laying an egg. What is questionable IMO is U of L this year as a marquee game and especially Duke next year in Atlanta. what a joke
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Old 10-21-18, 07:02 PM
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Considering most OOC games are played before November it is no surprise that it will never happen.

Their OOC last year wasn't really their fault with FSU laying an egg. What is questionable IMO is U of L this year as a marquee game and especially Duke next year in Atlanta. what a joke
Louisville's been one of the top teams in the country until this year. These games are scheduled 3-5 years and sometimes even close to a decade in advance. It's impossible to know what each team will have at that time.

I understand you guys hate neutral sites but it gives your school a chance to play in an environment they may face in the playoffs. Smart scheduling would be to take advantage of that opportunity.

No schools are traveling to big time OOC games in October or November unless it's part of their rivalry series. So not really fair to call out Bama or anyone else in the SEC when it's kinda a NCAA thing. If you're going to truly use this against the SEC, why doesn't any Big Ten teams travel down to SEC country in the late Fall?

I'm not sure what you actually mean by the SEC should adjust their Bowl games to better align with the competition? When your top 2 teams are in the playoffs it means everyone has to move up slots. You could argue that the Big Ten did so well last year because the conference sucked and didn't get anyone in the playoffs. Their teams were set up against lower level Power 5 teams. I mean the Big Ten has been outscored in the playoffs 69-0 over the last 3 years. Congrats on that Weed Wacker Bowl win though...

And again, there's very little emphasis put on winning bowl games. That will just continue as players, coaches and everyone else decide to not participate.
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Old 10-22-18, 02:19 PM
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Old 10-22-18, 02:34 PM
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In the last 10 years they played at
UK on 10/03/09
Duke on 09/18/10
PSU on 09/10/11
UK on 10/12/13

Other than that, the farthest north they have played in the last 10 years is in Tennessee.
PSU was the only non-league home/away.
Every other non-conference was neutral site.
Nobody manipulates a schedule better than bama.
UK is a non-conference game?
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Old 10-22-18, 05:06 PM
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I think he was listing UK in regards to it being North.

Yes Alabama does get some grief for their non conference schedules (Duke U of L) but I dont see why they would change anything when under Saban they make the playoff. What does Bama gain by coming "north" or playing a true road game? Nothing. So why do it.
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Old 10-22-18, 05:17 PM
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Can you say how you come up with the team points?
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Old 10-22-18, 07:55 PM
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UK is a non-conference game?
Didnít say it was.
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Old 10-22-18, 08:13 PM
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Didnít say it was.
You responded to a post that said:
"Does Alabama ever schedule a " home and home" in non-conference against a power-5 school?
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Old 10-22-18, 11:16 PM
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Can you say how you come up with the team points?
Every team starts the season with 10 points.

Wins:
30 pts - Top 5 opponent
25 - Top 6-10
20 - Top 11-15
15 - Top 16-25
10 - unranked P5 team with .500 or better record
7 - unranked G5 team " "

+1 added point for road victory
+10 added for P5 conference championship
+7 added for G5 " "

0 points for victories against FCS opponents

Losses:
-5 default for all losses with an additional conditional points loss:

0 - Top 5
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Old 10-23-18, 09:20 AM
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So to start the year for BAMA OOC, Aug-Sept time frame.

How about we see HOME and HOME series with:

MICHIGAN
ND
OHIO STATE
WISCONSIN
U of WASHINGTON

Wil never happen because BAMA wont go over 400 miles from BAMA. 1 time they went to PSU a few years ago when PSU was terrible..
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Old 10-23-18, 11:25 PM
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So to start the year for BAMA OOC, Aug-Sept time frame.

How about we see HOME and HOME series with:

MICHIGAN
ND
OHIO STATE
WISCONSIN
U of WASHINGTON

Wil never happen because BAMA wont go over 400 miles from BAMA. 1 time they went to PSU a few years ago when PSU was terrible..
What would their reason for doing so be? To shut message board commentators up? Maybe the talking heads would point out their big win in the first couple weeks of the year?

They make the playoffs every year. They get pretty much all the guys they want. The money they bring in has allowed them to open a cafeteria that dwarves most school's entire practice facility. Playing a home and home is a financial loss for Bama. It would bring in a great deal of money to the opposing team and their community. You think the Tide want to give that up?
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Old 10-24-18, 02:24 PM
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I always love midwest fan who says...I'd like to see (said southern/ west school) them come north in November / December. Well, where are the bowl games at? Warm site. No one wants to see games in cold weather in December or January. Yes, pro teams do it and it's a legitimate home field advantage.

But for colleges, even in the midwest, you play 85% of your games on generally nice days...just stop it.
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