Yappi Sports - THE Ohio Prep Sports Authority  

Go Back   Yappi Sports - THE Ohio Prep Sports Authority > Boys HS Sports > Football

Hello Guest!
Take a minute to register, It's 100% FREE! What are you waiting for?
Register Now
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #91  
Old 05-30-18, 02:31 PM
brian brian is offline
All Ohio
 
Join Date: 06-11-03
Location: Akron, Ohio
Posts: 540
brian
Quote:
Originally Posted by Irish60 View Post
I agree with you about the state of CYO football in Summit County. It's been WAY down. When my son was in 8th grade just 8 years ago, there were 8-10 Summit County CYO football teams in the 8th grade. This past year there were what, two? three? With the decreasing enrollments and the concussion issue hanging over football in general, I don't see that trend changing any time soon.
Agreed. The numbers in Akron took a dive after the 2012 and 2013 seasons and the entire Cleveland Diocese has seen a sharp decline in football numbers since then as well. At the risk of taking this thread too far from its intended subject, CYO is at least proactively making an effort to reverse the trend at the lower levels by offering Rookie Tackle Football a the 4th and 5th grade levels (leading into regular 11-man in 6-8). Akron actually used this format in the 2000's, featuring 7 players/side, no special teams, a narrower field and an overall emphasis on proper tackling and technique. Every youth league is combating the concussion epidemic and this idea is directly addressing that concern. Whether or not this approach helps CYO's numbers remains to be seen, but at least the effort is in place.
Reply With Quote
  #92  
Old 05-30-18, 03:51 PM
Paydirt Paydirt is offline
All Region
 
Join Date: 09-11-15
Posts: 295
Paydirt is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rusty Anchor View Post
Well said, I hope you guys compete with Hoban this year. These blowouts are getting old
Is Martavian Johnson playing this year?
Reply With Quote
  #93  
Old 05-30-18, 04:29 PM
clarkgriswold clarkgriswold is offline
All Yappi
 
Join Date: 08-28-07
Posts: 11,099
clarkgriswold will become famous soon enoughclarkgriswold will become famous soon enough
If a high school program in Summit County plans to chart it's course with area CYO players, they're in for a lot of misery. It's not 1998. The CYO kids are great solid kids and a nice core for a team, but the top teams are attracting well beyond the CYO kids.

I think it's odd that CYO is looking to move tackle to younger ages while many other programs are going in the other direction. I like the people who have been associated with Summit County CYO over the years, but when the Diocese forced the Cuyahoga/Summit CYO consolidation they did Summit County CYO athletes and schools no favors. Hopefully, the recent change at the top of diocesan CYO will remedy some of the damage that was done.

Schools like Mogadore and Manchester have plenty to be proud of. Their tradition makes responding to internet trolls beneath them.

Last edited by clarkgriswold; 05-30-18 at 07:35 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #94  
Old 05-30-18, 07:36 PM
Irish60 Irish60 is offline
All American
 
Join Date: 11-17-14
Posts: 1,945
Irish60 will become famous soon enough
Quote:
Originally Posted by clarkgriswold View Post
If a high school program in Summit County plans to chart it's course with area CYO players, they're in for a lot of misery. It's not 1998. The CYO kids are great solid kids, but generally not the difference makers.

I think it's odd that CYO is looking to move tackle to younger ages while many other programs are going in the other direction. I like the people who have been associated with Summit County CYO over the years, but when the Diocese forced the Cuyahoga/Summit CYO consolidation they did Summit County CYO athletes and schools no favors. Hopefully, the recent change at the top of diocesan CYO will remedy some of the damage that was done.

Schools like Mogadore and Manchester have plenty to be proud of. Their tradition makes responding to internet trolls beneath them.
I wholeheartedly agree that the merger was a disaster for Summit County CYO. I was involved in those discussions when that went down. And, let's just say, you didn't need a crystal ball to see what was going to happen. The merger was forced upon Summit County without our input. All kinds of rules changes, etc. were forced upon us that we didn't agree with. Cleveland CYO held meeting after meeting with AD's "to discuss how to consolidate the programs and to negotiate uniform rules going forward". These meetings inevitably broke down into shouting matches with the Cleveland people telling us we were going to do things their way and just have to learn to live with it. If I sound like I'm still bitter about it after all these years, well, I am. It was a money grab by Cleveland CYO pure and simple. I'm not saying this led to the demise of CYO athletics in Summit County, but it surely was a contributing factor.

Last edited by Irish60; 05-30-18 at 08:37 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #95  
Old 05-30-18, 09:38 PM
CoventryTrackXCguy CoventryTrackXCguy is online now
All American
 
Join Date: 10-28-15
Location: Coventry, Ohio
Posts: 1,364
CoventryTrackXCguy is an unknown quantity at this point
I ran cross country for St Pauls, for CYO. We went to merging with Cuyahoga County CYO around my 7th grade year. Our championship meet prior to that was held at Walsh. After, it was held at Hudson Springs. That was my first exposure to all those teams from Cleveland. It was evident to me, based on the kinds of equipment those Cleveland teams had versus the Summit County teams, that the Cleveland teams were far better funded and equipped. It is easy to see why CYO sports deteriorated in cross country, given the disparity. To this day, I would argue that a kid from summit county is better off running cross country for Woodridge middle school then virtually any cyo program in the entirety of northeast ohio. I know this is a different sport, but it seems like the same idea.
Reply With Quote
  #96  
Old 05-30-18, 09:42 PM
CoventryTrackXCguy CoventryTrackXCguy is online now
All American
 
Join Date: 10-28-15
Location: Coventry, Ohio
Posts: 1,364
CoventryTrackXCguy is an unknown quantity at this point
So this all begs the question. Which schools had the advantage with youth development? the catholic schools with their cyo, or the public schools and their respective youth programs?
Reply With Quote
  #97  
Old 05-31-18, 07:17 AM
clarkgriswold clarkgriswold is offline
All Yappi
 
Join Date: 08-28-07
Posts: 11,099
clarkgriswold will become famous soon enoughclarkgriswold will become famous soon enough
Quote:
Originally Posted by Irish60 View Post
I wholeheartedly agree that the merger was a disaster for Summit County CYO. I was involved in those discussions when that went down. And, let's just say, you didn't need a crystal ball to see what was going to happen. The merger was forced upon Summit County without our input. All kinds of rules changes, etc. were forced upon us that we didn't agree with. Cleveland CYO held meeting after meeting with AD's "to discuss how to consolidate the programs and to negotiate uniform rules going forward". These meetings inevitably broke down into shouting matches with the Cleveland people telling us we were going to do things their way and just have to learn to live with it. If I sound like I'm still bitter about it after all these years, well, I am. It was a money grab by Cleveland CYO pure and simple. I'm not saying this led to the demise of CYO athletics in Summit County, but it surely was a contributing factor.
Brother, we need to talk some time. LOL.
Reply With Quote
  #98  
Old 05-31-18, 09:03 AM
Irish60 Irish60 is offline
All American
 
Join Date: 11-17-14
Posts: 1,945
Irish60 will become famous soon enough
Quote:
Originally Posted by clarkgriswold View Post
Brother, we need to talk some time. LOL.
And the worst part about it is that they didn't even buy us dinner first!
Reply With Quote
  #99  
Old 05-31-18, 09:42 AM
Irish60 Irish60 is offline
All American
 
Join Date: 11-17-14
Posts: 1,945
Irish60 will become famous soon enough
Quote:
Originally Posted by DB 04 View Post
Gerry Faust was at STVMís senior class graduation. His influence will help STVM in the long run.

Crazy how itís a total 180 with him being pro Hoban to pro STVM.
What is so crazy about this? I have no idea about his connection with Hoban, but I know he has a few grandchildren who have attended STVM. It's not all about the football rivalry, dude!!!
Reply With Quote
  #100  
Old 05-31-18, 02:08 PM
clarkgriswold clarkgriswold is offline
All Yappi
 
Join Date: 08-28-07
Posts: 11,099
clarkgriswold will become famous soon enoughclarkgriswold will become famous soon enough
Quote:
Originally Posted by DB 04 View Post
Gerry Faust was at STVMís senior class graduation. His influence will help STVM in the long run.

Crazy how itís a total 180 with him being pro Hoban to pro STVM.
Unless 83 year old Jerry shares the decades old secret Moeller recipe to get kids from all over the country to come to your school to play football, I don't see him much helping the football program. Great guy, but I don't see him having much of an impact on football.
Reply With Quote
  #101  
Old 05-31-18, 04:12 PM
the123kidz the123kidz is offline
All American
 
Join Date: 10-21-10
Posts: 1,286
the123kidz is on a distinguished road
This thread deteriorated quickly. Can someone start a Hoban or SVSM thread for 2018?
Reply With Quote
  #102  
Old 05-31-18, 04:29 PM
clarkgriswold clarkgriswold is offline
All Yappi
 
Join Date: 08-28-07
Posts: 11,099
clarkgriswold will become famous soon enoughclarkgriswold will become famous soon enough
Quote:
Originally Posted by the123kidz View Post
This thread deteriorated quickly. Can someone start a Hoban or SVSM thread for 2018?
Only a true masochist would start a Hoban thread (I did it last year and still haven't recovered).
Reply With Quote
  #103  
Old 05-31-18, 04:37 PM
Irish60 Irish60 is offline
All American
 
Join Date: 11-17-14
Posts: 1,945
Irish60 will become famous soon enough
Quote:
Originally Posted by the123kidz View Post
This thread deteriorated quickly. Can someone start a Hoban or SVSM thread for 2018?
LOL! You want to see this thread take a REAL downward spiral!?! OK, here we go! The way Rusty Anchor talks about the 1995 national title team (as voted on in the polls), you'd think he was a Massillon fan!!!
Reply With Quote
  #104  
Old 05-31-18, 04:56 PM
CoventryTrackXCguy CoventryTrackXCguy is online now
All American
 
Join Date: 10-28-15
Location: Coventry, Ohio
Posts: 1,364
CoventryTrackXCguy is an unknown quantity at this point
Quote:
Originally Posted by Irish60 View Post
LOL! You want to see this thread take a REAL downward spiral!?! OK, here we go! The way Rusty Anchor talks about the 1995 national title team (as voted on in the polls), you'd think he was a Massillon fan!!!
The final bullet in this thread...
Reply With Quote
  #105  
Old 05-31-18, 10:36 PM
StarstoShine StarstoShine is offline
All World
 
Join Date: 02-07-03
Location: Ohio
Posts: 2,554
StarstoShine is on a distinguished road
Responding to the Lumberman. No one is transferring to Hoban from STVM. The other transfers were were all basketball motivated and only one starter and none to Hoban. The Irish did well with St Sebs and a quality incoming 2022 class. Hoban will contend for the 2018 D2 football title. STVM will contend for the D3 Football Title and a 3rd consecutive State Basketball title.
Reply With Quote
  #106  
Old 06-01-18, 07:47 AM
smash mouth 34 smash mouth 34 is offline
All Ohio
 
Join Date: 10-13-03
Posts: 589
smash mouth 34
1. Hoban
2. Hudson
3. St. V
4. Stow
5. Copley
6. East
7. Buchtel
8. Barberton
9. Tallmadge
10. Green
Reply With Quote
  #107  
Old 06-03-18, 05:51 PM
buckeye53 buckeye53 is offline
All Ohio
 
Join Date: 09-30-14
Location: The Sierra Nevada, NorCal
Posts: 666
buckeye53 is on a distinguished road
Has Akron area Catholic school enrollment fell that much ? When I was at St.Paul, many years ago, each grade had 4 classes of 40+ students. When we moved to Stow, Holy Family had a waiting list.The CYO football program was strong, and fed Catholic and Public high schools. I think their were 12 schools running both junior varsity and varsity teams. St.Paul, St.V, St.Mary, St.Peters, St.Sebastian, St.Hillary, St.Martha, St.Barnabas, Annunciation, St. Joe, Holy Family, and 1 slips my mind. Back to the subject at hand. With no absolutes, I’m guessing it will be the same programs once again at the helm. Hoban looks like the team to beat, as they return some solid talent. The next 2, St.V and Stow will be of interest, with new coaches taking over, will the transition be smooth, as both of these teams should be talented. Hudson is always fundamentally sound. Tallmadge seemed to be improving quite a bit last year, but I have no idea what they return. Copley’s program is always sound. Barberton could be an interesting watch. After losing a coach and a talented senior class, will the winning ways of the last 2 years provide the confidence the returning players will need, to have a successful season. Just on reputation alone, Buchtel should one of the better City Series teams. Will East continue their rise and will Ellet rebound ? Time will tell. Woodridge lost a lot of talent, but they seem to every year, but always field a winning squad. Moggy is just Moggy, small school football at its best. I’m sure there will be some surprises, it’s too bad, we have to wait another 3 months to find out. Here’s wishing you all a fun and safe Summer. GO IRISH !

Last edited by buckeye53; 06-03-18 at 06:07 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #108  
Old 06-03-18, 08:29 PM
Football Fan 1 Football Fan 1 is offline
All District
 
Join Date: 09-21-17
Posts: 218
Football Fan 1 is on a distinguished road
Rumor has it that 10 students from Hoban were expelled. I wonít go into the reason as itís not appropriate to share in this forum. 3 girls and 7 boys. Any football players involved?
Reply With Quote
  #109  
Old 06-03-18, 09:11 PM
Bobby77 Bobby77 is online now
All Region
 
Join Date: 12-25-17
Posts: 442
Bobby77 is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Football Fan 1 View Post
Rumor has it that 10 students from Hoban were expelled. I wonít go into the reason as itís not appropriate to share in this forum. 3 girls and 7 boys. Any football players involved?
This was an ugly twitter/internet rumor that is mostly false and yes itís not appropriate to bring up on any forum because some ugly lies were told about under age kids. I have seen the attempts by multiple posters to bring this up and they are pathetic losers for doing so.
Reply With Quote
  #110  
Old 06-03-18, 09:39 PM
Bucksfan1 Bucksfan1 is offline
Junior Varsity
 
Join Date: 02-02-18
Posts: 39
Bucksfan1 is on a distinguished road
Martavian Johnson has a great freshman year. Expect big things out of him this season.
Reply With Quote
  #111  
Old 06-03-18, 09:44 PM
Cougarfan22 Cougarfan22 is offline
All Ohio
 
Join Date: 08-27-16
Posts: 834
Cougarfan22 is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by StarstoShine View Post
Responding to the Lumberman. No one is transferring to Hoban from STVM. The other transfers were were all basketball motivated and only one starter and none to Hoban. The Irish did well with St Sebs and a quality incoming 2022 class. Hoban will contend for the 2018 D2 football title. STVM will contend for the D3 Football Title and a 3rd consecutive State Basketball title.
Responding to the knife maker. Still there are transfers. And from the coveted basketball program no less. Glad that they have quality Incoming class from St Sebs. While they contend in D3, Hoban will win its 4th straight title. I wouldnít jump on the 3rd consecutive BB title just yet. D1 may be more of a challenge.
Reply With Quote
  #112  
Old 06-04-18, 06:35 AM
Irish60 Irish60 is offline
All American
 
Join Date: 11-17-14
Posts: 1,945
Irish60 will become famous soon enough
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobby77 View Post
This was an ugly twitter/internet rumor that is mostly false and yes it’s not appropriate to bring up on any forum because some ugly lies were told about under age kids. I have seen the attempts by multiple posters to bring this up and they are pathetic losers for doing so.
I agree wholeheartedly with this. Good-natured banter is always welcome on Yappi. Outright disdain for another poster's comments is encouraged! But taking consolation out of any missteps by teenage kids is beyond the pale. However, I would note, that for certain Hoban posters (not Bobby), calling out other posters on something like this would be a little like the pot and the kettle.

Last edited by Irish60; 06-04-18 at 06:47 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #113  
Old 06-04-18, 07:12 AM
CoventryTrackXCguy CoventryTrackXCguy is online now
All American
 
Join Date: 10-28-15
Location: Coventry, Ohio
Posts: 1,364
CoventryTrackXCguy is an unknown quantity at this point
While Hoban is no doubt the heavy favorites to win the state championship, I wouldn't write it off as an absolute certainty. Ive heard some good things coming from Massillon football. They return a lot this year. I feel that they are the one program in the state of ohio that I really believe is up to the task of matching what Hoban has, whether it be the weightroom, the community support, the tradition, the talent, etc. Tigertown just has to commit itself and do it.
Reply With Quote
  #114  
Old 06-04-18, 12:16 PM
Cougarfan22 Cougarfan22 is offline
All Ohio
 
Join Date: 08-27-16
Posts: 834
Cougarfan22 is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by CoventryTrackXCguy View Post
While Hoban is no doubt the heavy favorites to win the state championship, I wouldn't write it off as an absolute certainty. Ive heard some good things coming from Massillon football. They return a lot this year. I feel that they are the one program in the state of ohio that I really believe is up to the task of matching what Hoban has, whether it be the weightroom, the community support, the tradition, the talent, etc. Tigertown just has to commit itself and do it.
Nothing is for certain. My opinion is based on the past 3 years of how this coach and staff prepares and peaks itís teams. Havenít seen anything like it. Yea they have a ton of talent, but do not discount the coaching and how they progress through the season. Also the fact that weeks 11-15 they start playing best players Entire game and at times both sides of the ball. Something they donít get to do during the regular season. A lot of starters only are playing 2-3 quarters a game with exceptions. Massillon week 14 blow out. Look at last year vs WW. Lost by 30 plus. Team Hoban beat by 28 at halftime.
Reply With Quote
  #115  
Old 06-04-18, 03:13 PM
StarstoShine StarstoShine is offline
All World
 
Join Date: 02-07-03
Location: Ohio
Posts: 2,554
StarstoShine is on a distinguished road
The Irish biggest hurdle in D1 Hoops will be at the regional level vs Garfield Heights. Cougar good luck to your son he is one heck of competitor. Hopefully his career continues to advance to the highest level (NFL) where my son (NFL Media) can view him at the NFL Combine in 2022.
Reply With Quote
  #116  
Old 06-05-18, 01:08 AM
CoventryTrackXCguy CoventryTrackXCguy is online now
All American
 
Join Date: 10-28-15
Location: Coventry, Ohio
Posts: 1,364
CoventryTrackXCguy is an unknown quantity at this point
The irish's biggest hurdle in d1 hoops is that they wont be able to skate through districts. They may still be the favorites, but they have to take the opposition much more seriously, much earlier on in postseason. SVSM will be a contender in d1, but I doubt they are so favored. Its funny, though, when SVSM was d2, I typically rooted against them...I usually root for the underdog. But now that SVSM is in the division they belong in, I'm kind of actually rooting for them. But enough of hoops, back to football.
Reply With Quote
  #117  
Old 06-05-18, 05:42 AM
Cougarfan22 Cougarfan22 is offline
All Ohio
 
Join Date: 08-27-16
Posts: 834
Cougarfan22 is on a distinguished road
I agree. Thread went off track. Let’s keep it to football as we approach the 2018 season. Teams are in the weight room working hard.
Reply With Quote
  #118  
Old 06-06-18, 04:22 PM
Thurgood75 Thurgood75 is offline
All Ohio
 
Join Date: 07-27-10
Posts: 585
Thurgood75 is on a distinguished road
Hey posters I have a question. How does Green repeatedly make it into the preseason top 10 every year despite always being around .500?
Reply With Quote
  #119  
Old 06-06-18, 04:43 PM
tantal tantal is offline
All District
 
Join Date: 01-01-15
Posts: 145
tantal is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thurgood75 View Post
Hey posters I have a question. How does Green repeatedly make it into the preseason top 10 every year despite always being around .500?
Because they're a big school I guess.
Reply With Quote
  #120  
Old 06-06-18, 05:55 PM
CoventryTrackXCguy CoventryTrackXCguy is online now
All American
 
Join Date: 10-28-15
Location: Coventry, Ohio
Posts: 1,364
CoventryTrackXCguy is an unknown quantity at this point
Actually that is a good question about Green. They are a .500 team at best. However they do play in the federal league. However they lose most of their games in the fed, but are more competitive with their out of conference schedule. Its hard to say how Green fits in the Summit County top 10, because Green doesn't really play or associate itself with summit county teams. I think of them as being more of a stark county team even though they are technically in summit county.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
The 29th Annual Boardman Open is Sunday, Mar. 18th! $1000 to the Top Four Teams Kickoff Classic Wrestling 0 03-12-18 03:40 PM
The Bay Village Rocket Spring Open is Sunday, March 11th! $1000 to the Top Four Teams Kickoff Classic Wrestling 1 03-10-18 02:32 PM
Top 14U Teams Yappi Softball 1 08-07-17 03:54 PM
Top 12U Teams Yappi Softball 0 08-06-17 10:18 PM
Top 10U Teams Yappi Softball 0 08-06-17 10:18 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:53 AM.




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Registration Booster - Powered By Dirt RIF CustUmz