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Old 10-21-18, 07:13 PM
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It's pretty astounding that the offense struggles. They have one of the best passers in the nation, have two legit RBs, and run like 6 deep at WR. How can they not create constant mismatches?
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Old 10-21-18, 09:32 PM
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From Brian's the sky is falling thread, what does everyone else think about offensive play calling? Is it time to give Martell a few series or a red zone package just to run some zone reads and RPOs?



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Old 10-21-18, 09:56 PM
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I really don't know if there's a redzone answer without improvement in run blocking. Maybe the OCs should give June Jones a call.
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Old 10-21-18, 10:22 PM
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Oh?







Okay Brian Bluth.
None of what you just quoted matched what you typed into quotes. If you were unaware, quotes are meant to be taken literally
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Old 10-21-18, 10:45 PM
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#11.......ouch
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Old 10-22-18, 11:30 AM
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From Brian's the sky is falling thread, what does everyone else think about offensive play calling? Is it time to give Martell a few series or a red zone package just to run some zone reads and RPOs?



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QB is not the problem.
RBs are not the problem.
WRs - maybe a little for stopping on routes or dropping passes.
One of 3 things.

The line recruits were terrible wastes of scholarships.
The line coaching hasn't gotten results.
The line players are lazy underachievers.

Saban would make it clear to the players that they were not recruited to be underachievers. What was teh message after Braxton and JT were injured - other players need to step up. They responded and did exactly that. The one major difference? The play calling was pulling out all the stops and going for the win. We haven't seen that at OSU since that NC game.
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Old 10-22-18, 11:39 AM
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Anyone who thinks the Offense is the issue wasnít watching the same game I was. Yeah, they struggled in the Red Zone, but it doesnít matter when your Defense is a sieve. The DL is loaded with NFL talent, but a Purdue OL built on 2-3* players dominated the LOS.
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Old 10-22-18, 12:35 PM
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One of 3 things.

The line recruits were terrible wastes of scholarships.
The line coaching hasn't gotten results.
The line players are lazy underachievers.
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Take your pick. Maybe 2 out of 3? If an offensive lineman is struggling, the coach needs to be showing them what to do differently, or replace them if they can't do it. Isn't doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results one of the apocryphal definitions of insanity?

Plus, how ironic is that Isaiah Prince decides all of a sudden to give the team a post-game pep talk after Saturday's debacle?

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Old 10-22-18, 02:21 PM
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SUBUrban Meyer needs to go! Stale philosophy and poor coaching hires!
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Old 10-22-18, 03:35 PM
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Grumblegut really wants this Suburban Meyer nickname to stick.
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Old 10-22-18, 03:49 PM
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wants to be able to tell the grandkids he created a meme?


Meyer is tired though, that's clear but I can't even understand the mentality that would want to continue those full days, rather than play with the grandkids.
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Old 10-22-18, 05:02 PM
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Grumblegut really wants this Suburban Meyer nickname to stick.
Did your parents not give you enough attention as a kid? Something's wrong with you boy
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Old 10-22-18, 05:18 PM
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Did your parents not give you enough attention as a kid? Something's wrong with you boy
Just observing that you've been trying to make a nickname stick with no success for a while now. But don't let me discourage you.
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Old 10-22-18, 06:17 PM
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Maybe I'm being over critical but I don't think Purdue could stop OSU's third team. They can challenge run or they can challenge pass but not a team that can do both. And I've not really been impressed by Blough. He rattles. He doesn't use his pocket well. Will run right into the defensive pressure. The team's three losses almost all complicated by poor discipline. This coaching staff has competantly communicated "fun" but not "serious."

I can see Urban pulling off the stuffed shirt for a few plays if only to put a potential recruiting competitor in his place.

The Purdue Freshman though, he might be good.
No malice meant here by bringing this old post back up but you read the Boilermakers wrong. Ohhh well
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Old 10-22-18, 07:35 PM
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Maybe I'm being over critical but I don't think Purdue could stop OSU's third team. They can challenge run or they can challenge pass but not a team that can do both. And I've not really been impressed by Blough. He rattles. He doesn't use his pocket well. Will run right into the defensive pressure. The team's three losses almost all complicated by poor discipline. This coaching staff has competantly communicated "fun" but not "serious."

I can see Urban pulling off the stuffed shirt for a few plays if only to put a potential recruiting competitor in his place.

The Purdue Freshman though, he might be good.
No malice meant here by bringing this old post back up but you read the Boilermakers wrong. Ohhh well

No malice taken but I think I nailed it.
1) "They can challenge run or they can challenge pass but not a team that can do both."
OSU, didn't run. Barely tried.


2) " And I've not really been impressed by Blough. He rattles."
his success rate against the blitz was horrendous. OSU simply stopped doing it.


3) "The Purdue Freshman though, he might be good."


Now you have to agree I got this one right.


Stuffed shirt:at the time of the post, Purdue was calling it fairly conservative, something the coach confirmed. Hence three losses. Meyer stuck with the stuffed shirt and that was his mistake and my bad call. I thought he'd get creative when needed. He paled when faced against someone that was willing to lose as long as they lost fighting.


It was a good win for the alma mater and I hadn't realized how well they'd played OSU at Ross-Ade. But OSU was pushing them around like children in first quarter. OSU simply wasn't executing. Seemed more their failing than Purdue's doing.


I neglected the thought that Meyer would get out-coached but he did and badly.
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Old 10-22-18, 08:25 PM
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Anyone who thinks the Offense is the issue wasnít watching the same game I was. Yeah, they struggled in the Red Zone, but it doesnít matter when your Defense is a sieve. The DL is loaded with NFL talent, but a Purdue OL built on 2-3* players dominated the LOS.
That offense sucks in the red zone. Also Haskins is slow af which makes the reads so easy on read option. That kills your running game. Ohio stateís offense is just 5 yard passes and let the WR make a play against less talented DBís. Maybe use Tate Martell more to get some running game.
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Old 10-23-18, 06:27 AM
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Uh-oh. Trouble brewing for the Meyer-Smith relationship?

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...edium=referral
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Old 10-23-18, 08:34 AM
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No malice taken but I think I nailed it.
It's all good eastisbest. At the end of the day the Bucks just got their tails whipped. We all saw it coming. We will see how they respond.
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Old 10-23-18, 09:28 AM
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Meyer probably does have continuing health issues. He had it at Florida and Ohio State stress has to be even greater than at Florida. He is 77-9 at OSU, 1 National Champ in the first ever Playoff, what more do you need to do? Your nor touching Sagan and BAMA, because the zealots at BAMA keep their mouths shut no matter if you kill and bury your wife....
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Old 10-23-18, 11:33 AM
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Anyone who thinks the Offense is the issue wasnít watching the same game I was. Yeah, they struggled in the Red Zone, but it doesnít matter when your Defense is a sieve. The DL is loaded with NFL talent, but a Purdue OL built on 2-3* players dominated the LOS.
This as a little eye-opening for me. Seeing the scoring failures in the red zone is so obvious, but you're spot on. Looking at rankings against all other FBS teams.

As it relates to yards
Rushing offense - 69
Passing offense - 2
Total offense - 2

Rushing defense - 57
Passing defense - 90
Total defense - 70

As it relates to points
Scoring offense - 8
Red zone offense - 116
Scoring defense - 44
Red zone defense - 105
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Old 10-23-18, 05:01 PM
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It's all good eastisbest. At the end of the day the Bucks just got their tails whipped. We all saw it coming. We will see how they respond.

sometimes, that's what matters on the way to a championship. Ala hasn't had a bit of practice responding. Might be interesting to see how they do, if they have to.
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Old 10-23-18, 06:57 PM
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Uh-oh. Trouble brewing for the Meyer-Smith relationship?

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...edium=referral
They both should have been fired,a fresh start for next year.
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Old 10-23-18, 07:11 PM
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Meyer probably does have continuing health issues. He had it at Florida and Ohio State stress has to be even greater than at Florida. He is 77-9 at OSU, 1 National Champ in the first ever Playoff, what more do you need to do? Your nor touching Sagan and BAMA, because the zealots at BAMA keep their mouths shut no matter if you kill and bury your wife....
You can see how much heís aged the last few yrs. Iím in the minority, but I firmly believe being a College HC is more stressful than being an HC in the NFL. Yeah, the NFL guys work 18 hr days, but once the seasonís over, you at least get some time off. In college, you get right into recruiting and thatís the life blood of your program.
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Old 10-24-18, 06:41 PM
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Campbell nearly even with Urban Meyer to be OSU's head coach in 2019, and Meyer himself is actually below even odds to be the coach

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Old 10-24-18, 07:37 PM
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With the odds for Campbell at +175, Vegas must be in the know and think urban walks away and it is all but a foregone conclusion Campbell takes over.

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Old 10-24-18, 07:43 PM
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I understand Iowa St is never really any good but there seems to be a lot of faith in a guy who was 8-5 last year and 3-3 this year. Do people really want him over Urban? He is probably looking at around 8-4 this year, back half is easy.
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Old 10-24-18, 07:44 PM
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Not sure there are many people who want him over Urban, but there are definitely people who want him after Urban.
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Old 10-24-18, 07:51 PM
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Agreed. Don't get the fascination with Campbell.

If Meyer really walks away, I think Day at 10-1 is a great bet.
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Old 10-24-18, 07:54 PM
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I definitely wouldn't say over Urban, but I want him after Urban.

Iowa State's a tough gig for a variety of reasons, and he has three top-10 wins already. Last year he had two during a timeframe where he had a pseudo walk-on/3rd string QB starting. Iowa State won 8 games over the 3 years prior to him arriving. He's quickly made them solid and a team that no one should take lightly.

When I was in school at Toledo, players went to bat for him to become the youngest HC in FBS after Tim Beckman left for Illinois. He won 75-80% of the time in a league that has about as level of an in-conference playing field as you'll find in college football.

He's a tremendous recruiter and motivator, and guys love playing for him. I'd like to see him get a few more years of experience, but IMO he'd kill it if he had the resources of a top-10 program.

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Old 10-24-18, 09:25 PM
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