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Old 10-09-18, 12:54 PM
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These are all valid question and points and I think this is why the show has become somewhat lackluster. The writers are digging deep to come of with newer and more dramatic scenarios. I got to admit, I keep watching, but the show continues to get dumber and dumber. I think once Rick is gone they should walk away. Unless they are bringing forth the war with the Whisperers, I just don't see where the show is headed.
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Old 10-09-18, 01:24 PM
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These are all valid question and points and I think this is why the show has become somewhat lackluster. The writers are digging deep to come of with newer and more dramatic scenarios. I got to admit, I keep watching, but the show continues to get dumber and dumber. I think once Rick is gone they should walk away. Unless they are bringing forth the war with the Whisperers, I just don't see where the show is headed.
The Whisperers are coming. They were seen in the season 8 finale and also in the season 9 trailer and since that trailer was released after about 6 episodes were filmed, I'd guess they will be seen in the next few weeks.
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Old 10-09-18, 04:41 PM
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They could get most anything in any middle class white guy's pole barn/garage.
This is a great point. All they needed to do to get farming equipment was to go out beyond the suburbs and check out all the pole and regular barns they could find. They would have found all sorts of useful stuff. Heck, focusing in on a couple of big farms would give them everything they could possibly use for planting/harvesting crops.

Like Purplemojo said going to the national Museums to rescue critical historical artifacts would make sense. You could use them to underpin the new society you're trying to rebuild. Symbols are important and it would signal that they're moving beyond simple survival.
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Old 10-10-18, 07:23 PM
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Ok, just watched the season premiere. Who the heck is Kenny the kid that died? I never saw him before. Guess I got to pay closer attention.
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Old 10-11-18, 04:06 AM
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Watched the first couple of episodes for shytes and giggles last week. It’s stunning how far the show has fallen off
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Old 10-11-18, 07:03 AM
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Who the heck is Kenny the kid that died? I never saw him before. Guess I got to pay closer attention.
This past Sunday's episode was Ken's only appearance on the show: http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Ken_(TV_Series)

I know the writers needed to drive home a specific plot point, but I found it difficult to believe that Ken and both of his parents survived this far after the outbreak. Are there any other intact nuclear families on the show?
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Old 10-11-18, 12:35 PM
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They could get most anything in any middle class white guy's pole barn/garage.

* The Smithsonian glass floor would not be compromised with a wood wagon and/or an ancient plow? They got cars running, what about tractors?

* Ezekial falling through and not getting bit was odd. Lot's of people at the Smithsonian the day the outbreak occurred. No one rushed home to loved ones?

* The mud and the horses? Absolutely bizarre. Then the quick, and I mean quick, build up of a character so he could die. As soon as the dude said he was going back for his horse everyone in America rolled their friggin eyes. Annnnddd watched him get bit by a ninja walker that came out of nowhere.

* Ezekial and Carol? Why? Weird? It looked weird to see them kiss. Really awkward. Again, why?

* Then the Gregory build-up. Again, really fast and thrown together.

* And lastly, yes, Maggie gets it and killed Gregory. Amen. However, here we go again with another moral quagmire build between folks that would not happen end of world. No one, and I mean NO ONE, would keep Negan alive. And they would have mowed down the saviors with a smile. But we are going to have to sit through a whole full season of what we already know - most the group wants Negan dead and Rick and Co. have this moral compass. Ugh. And guess what? Rick dies. Lol.
Rickís leaving, but he might not die. The actor is actually going to direct episodes next year, entirely possible they leave the window open for his character to return at at very end.
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Old 10-11-18, 12:37 PM
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This is a great point. All they needed to do to get farming equipment was to go out beyond the suburbs and check out all the pole and regular barns they could find. They would have found all sorts of useful stuff. Heck, focusing in on a couple of big farms would give them everything they could possibly use for planting/harvesting crops.

Like Purplemojo said going to the national Museums to rescue critical historical artifacts would make sense. You could use them to underpin the new society you're trying to rebuild. Symbols are important and it would signal that they're moving beyond simple survival.
Theyíre not at the point where they can risk peopleís lives for symbols. The items were meant for either functional use or to act as models/templates to build their own from.
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Old 10-11-18, 03:48 PM
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Theyíre not at the point where they can risk peopleís lives for symbols. The items were meant for either functional use or to act as models/templates to build their own from.
To get usable items then they should have hit barns and workshops (must be thousands of them) in greater Washington.

To get models/templates they should have hit the libraries, both public and university. Heck raiding a Barnes & Noble or even better a half price bookstore might have landed them a load of templates. Not to mention isn't the US Patent office in Washington DC? That place has hard copy originals of early 20th century patents that probably cover every gizmo imagined.
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Old 10-12-18, 09:30 AM
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To get usable items then they should have hit barns and workshops (must be thousands of them) in greater Washington.

To get models/templates they should have hit the libraries, both public and university. Heck raiding a Barnes & Noble or even better a half price bookstore might have landed them a load of templates. Not to mention isn't the US Patent office in Washington DC? That place has hard copy originals of early 20th century patents that probably cover every gizmo imagined.
Correct. A template of what? An ancient plow? When they have barns and workshops all around them? Every damned farm has at least two or three farm wagons which have rubber tires and are FAR more economical than that wooden piece of trash. As stated over and over, made zero sense. Haphazardly thrown together to quickly introduce a new kid to have him killed and have Ezekiel almost die in order to show him in Carol in love which was awkward. Maggie killing Jeffery was the shows only saving grace.
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Old 10-15-18, 11:34 AM
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Gabriel and Jadis? My word....
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Old 10-15-18, 11:59 AM
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Gabriel and Jadis? My word....
HA, well its not like theres much to choose from.
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Old 10-15-18, 06:14 PM
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The Gabriel/Jadis & King/Carol love affairs are just gimmicks to pump emotion into the story. My guess is a couple of these folks are not long for the earth.

Also is it me or are they playing Rick as some kind of angel? My goodness, they might as well have a halo circling his head as we count down to his death.
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Old 10-15-18, 07:25 PM
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The Gabriel/Jadis & King/Carol love affairs are just gimmicks to pump emotion into the story. My guess is a couple of these folks are not long for the earth.

Also is it me or are they playing Rick as some kind of angel? My goodness, they might as well have a halo circling his head as we count down to his death.
Spot on as usual.
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Old 10-23-18, 03:20 PM
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Anyone still hanging in there?

looks like a new group of villains is about to be introduced. Is it me or does each group of bad guys become more implausible and ridiculous? It's like the WD writers/producers are channeling the old Adam West Batman series with all the over the top, campy villains.

As for the last episode - very dumb except for the hanging Lady, Carrol & Daryl showing some common sense in how you deal with evil. Oh and we got to see the soon to be dead Rick playing with his cute daughter in a montage of scenes featuring cool music. When they start doing this to a character you know the end is near.
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Old 10-23-18, 07:08 PM
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Anyone still hanging in there?

looks like a new group of villains is about to be introduced. Is it me or does each group of bad guys become more implausible and ridiculous? It's like the WD writers/producers are channeling the old Adam West Batman series with all the over the top, campy villains.

As for the last episode - very dumb except for the hanging Lady, Carrol & Daryl showing some common sense in how you deal with evil. Oh and we got to see the soon to be dead Rick playing with his cute daughter in a montage of scenes featuring cool music. When they start doing this to a character you know the end is near.
I thought it was an ok episode. Glad they didnít drag out the Savior kidnapping plot. We all know thereís a new villain group coming, but Iím not sure they have anything to do with the Jadis subplot.
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Old 10-24-18, 06:42 AM
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Just watched it last night. First of all, I think artifacts are important. I would have gone to the National Archives and taken the Declaration and Constitution and to the White House for presidential portraits. The conestoga wagon is a great artifact but a metal utility trailer would have been a better choice. The horse/ox drawn plow was a really good choice and there would be no modern equivalent. Now for my big issue: Why can't the Savior survivors feed themselves? They have the whole Commonwealth of Virginia to plant. Certainly there is some good bottom land near by they can plant and some advisers from Hilltop who can teach them. If it is a matter of specialization of labor, ok, then they need to make things that are of more value to the people growing crops in order to get more food for value.


Dis everyone miss that a main reason they went to the Smithsonian was to retrieve a hoard of seeds for various crops?


They need more seeds for more crops, which would be part of why the Saviors donít have their own food supply.




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Old 10-24-18, 06:50 AM
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Dis everyone miss that a main reason they went to the Smithsonian was to retrieve a hoard of seeds for various crops?


They need more seeds for more crops, which would be part of why the Saviors donít have their own food supply.
The important thing about the Smithsonian seeds is that they are heirloom seeds. Hybrid seeds, which are used for most of our food crops, are often sterile just as a mule cannot reproduce. So, getting the heirloom seeds would be very important. Of course some of our Amish and other communities would likely have similar seed stocks.
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Old 10-24-18, 07:31 PM
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Im in until the end only because ive invested 8 seasons so far.

It wasnt a terrible episode. What do you suppose a and b mean? I wonder if it has something to do with the leadership qualities one might have? Could we maybe see jadis give rick to the helicopter people? I also wonder if thats what happened to Heath. He just disappeared one episode.

And no i dont think the new villain has anything to do with the helicopter.

I heard Opie from Sons of Anarchy was cast as one of the new villains.
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Old 10-28-18, 08:17 PM
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In the zombie apocalypse I would rather get bitten or face Lucielle than ride bit$ch on another dude's bike.
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Old 10-29-18, 03:53 PM
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The best part of last nights episode were the coming attractions for next weeks episode - which looks interesting.

Oh and what are the odds that there's this really big hole right next to where Rick & Daryl start fighting? And that they fall into the hole and can't get out so they can then have a long conversation about killing Negan. Do the writers of this show realize how improbable and flat out dumb that was?
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Old 10-29-18, 03:54 PM
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And that there were no walkers at the bottom of the pit but within 10 minutes of being in the pit, about 25 fell in.
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Old 10-29-18, 09:02 PM
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The entire pit scene was ridiculous.

But how about Rick getting thrown (unsure why?) and landing on a rebar? And we then are shown that he gets out and are told that it is his final episode?
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Old 10-31-18, 11:38 AM
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Oh and what are the odds that there's this really big hole right next to where Rick & Daryl start fighting? And that they fall into the hole and can't get out so they can then have a long conversation about killing Negan. Do the writers of this show realize how improbable and flat out dumb that was?
Probably more probable than ZOMBIES existing.

You people just love to hate things.
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Old 10-31-18, 02:22 PM
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Probably more probable than ZOMBIES existing.

You people just love to hate things.
One of the most important things a writer or director can do when creating horror, fantasy or science fiction is to convince the viewer to suspend their disbelief.

One element of this is achieved through believable special effects. And in this area the WD is excellent.

But the other thing that must be done is to have the characters react in ways that makes sense to the average viewer. The difference between a great horror film and an average one is the scene where a person goes into the basement alone after hearing something. It's just laughable & unbelievable.

The problem with the WD is that the writers have gotten lazy and have created a story line where no one behaves in a way that the viewer finds believable.
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Old 10-31-18, 02:43 PM
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OK then, LOTR. Regarding the giant hole ... nothing has ever occurred in your experiences that slightly or highly defied what you would normally expect?
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Old 10-31-18, 03:50 PM
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OK then, LOTR. Regarding the giant hole ... nothing has ever occurred in your experiences that slightly or highly defied what you would normally expect?
Troll much?

The show is still a great premise but we can talk about the holes in the writing the same as Brown fans can speak about coaching. The show was great and still could be which frustrates those who have invested time to follow.
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Old 11-02-18, 01:45 PM
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Troll much?

The show is still a great premise but we can talk about the holes in the writing the same as Brown fans can speak about coaching. The show was great and still could be which frustrates those who have invested time to follow.
Troll much? No. Talking about the holes in the writing is one thing. But you folks seem to live for complaining.
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Old 11-03-18, 01:47 AM
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Troll much? No. Talking about the holes in the writing is one thing. But you folks seem to live for complaining.
So you thought it would be cool to complain? About complaining? Got it.
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Old 11-04-18, 10:10 PM
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