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Old 10-11-18, 05:34 PM
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Wow, that was a close call:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...tic-entry.html

Two astronauts are alive after dramatically aborting their voyage to the International Space Station when their Russian Soyuz rocket malfunctioned while it carried them into orbit at 4,970mph.

American Nick Hague and Russian Aleksey Ovchinin were forced to abort their mission on the cusp of space, at an altitude of approximately 50km (164,000ft).

They landed safely in Kazakhstan after a 'ballistic re-entry', during which they experienced forces of up to 7G.
Just another reminder of the incredible risks of rocket launches and space travel. I never could understand how space suits could hold the heavy brass balls of astronauts.
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Old 10-11-18, 05:40 PM
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some of those balls are internal now a days.
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Old 10-12-18, 07:40 AM
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More of those strange Galactic radio light wave bursts:

https://www.space.com/42085-mysterio...scoveries.html

A new study reports the detection of 19 previously undiscovered FRBs, including the closest one to Earth and the brightest one ever seen. The results boost the total tally significantly; just three dozen or so FRBs had been known previously, with the first detection coming in 2007.

FRBs are brief (millisecond-long) but intense emissions of radio light, which can pack as much energy as our own sun produces over the course of nearly a century. Their source is the topic of much discussion and debate. For example, some researchers have suggested that FRBs could be generated by advanced alien civilizations, though most astronomers favor natural explanations, such as fast-spinning neutron stars.
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Old 10-15-18, 06:16 PM
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In case anyone asks, the moons of a moon are called MOONMOONS!

https://www.newscientist.com/article...box=1539337309
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Old 10-15-18, 06:29 PM
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Moon^2. Or is that Moon(Moon-1)(Moon-2)...2x1?


You know, if you stare at that long enough


MOONMOON
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Old 10-15-18, 06:55 PM
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Moon^2. Or is that Moon(Moon-1)(Moon-2)...2x1?


You know, if you stare at that long enough


MOONMOON
It's MOONMOON though SUBMOON is also in the running:

A moon of a moon has no formal name, perhaps because we have never spotted one, but both submoon and moonmoon have been suggested.
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Old 10-15-18, 07:41 PM
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If Neil Armstrong had dropped drawer, would that have been a MOONMOON?
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Old 10-15-18, 09:00 PM
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Stephen Hawking left us bold predictions on AI, superhumans, and aliens

The late physicist Stephen Hawking’s last writings predict that a breed of superhumans will take over, having used genetic engineering to surpass their fellow beings.

In Brief Answers to the Big Questions, to be published on Oct. 16 and excerpted today in the UK’s Sunday Times (paywall), Hawking pulls no punches on subjects like machines taking over, the biggest threat to Earth, and the possibilities of intelligent life in space.
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Old 10-16-18, 03:08 AM
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He seems more than a bit behind the curve on those predictions. Anything new or unique in them?
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Old 10-16-18, 08:27 PM
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I have a lot of respect for Stephen Hawking but I think he got it wrong here. Not the science mind you, we will see massive improvements in human beings as the result of advances in genetic manipulation, nano machines and implant technologies.

Where he gets it wrong IMO is in the idea that only the wealthiest will benefit and that there will be a race of "super humans". I suspect that these benefits will be available to most everyone living in the 1st world. Relative to us, EVERYONE will be a "super human" in the not so distant future.
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Old 10-16-18, 08:31 PM
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Bezos is spot on here:

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/15/blue...ed-summit.html

Blue Origin founder and Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos predicts we'll have 1 trillion humans in the solar system one day — and he laid out Monday how the rocket company plans to help get there.
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Old 10-16-18, 08:46 PM
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they're gonna need a bigger wall.
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Old 10-16-18, 08:50 PM
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It's impossible to predict, but I'm always amazed at how no one seems to account for the possibility of people changing their views toward technology completely. It wouldn't be crazy if over time people decide/realize that unfettered technological advancement isn't necessarily progress. I suspect this would be most likely to happen once AI and robotics advance to the point where human work is no longer needed and there's an epidemic of meaninglessness that dwarfs today's issues of depression and anxiety.

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Old 10-16-18, 08:53 PM
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That does seem reasonable for the hoi polloi but the riche will still be living in their holographic worlds.
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Old 10-16-18, 09:03 PM
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I'm not really sure that makes sense. I would presume the "riche" would want the "hoi polloi" wasting away in VR, not the other way around, if it's even possible to have such a class structure given there could be no markets due to human work being obsolete. It would seem a type of aristocratic upper class society would first emerge post-work but how long could it last?
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Old 10-17-18, 08:54 AM
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It's impossible to predict, but I'm always amazed at how no one seems to account for the possibility of people changing their views toward technology completely. It wouldn't be crazy if over time people decide/realize that unfettered technological advancement isn't necessarily progress. I suspect this would be most likely to happen once AI and robotics advance to the point where human work is no longer needed and there's an epidemic of meaninglessness that dwarfs today's issues of depression and anxiety.
Some of the better science fiction writers like Peter Hamilton address this quite well. And I agree that a subset of humanity will rebel against anything that changes the basic look of humans beyond our evolutionary norm. At the same time when science enables it a lot of humans will opt to have "wings" and "tails" and extra "arms" and who knows what else. They won't even resemble human beings any more. For sure there will be push back against this.
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Old 10-17-18, 08:58 AM
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That does seem reasonable for the hoi polloi but the riche will still be living in their holographic worlds.
I thought we already were living in someones demented hologram?

But you bring up an interesting question - who gets to live in the holograms of the future? One writer had a story where different species created holograms of their own mythological Hell's to send their criminals to.
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Old 10-19-18, 02:28 AM
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Bezos is spot on here:

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/15/blue...ed-summit.html

Blue Origin founder and Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos predicts we'll have 1 trillion humans in the solar system one day — and he laid out Monday how the rocket company plans to help get there.
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Old 10-20-18, 08:50 AM
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Calling Lando Calrissian, NASA wants to talk!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...ere-Venus.html

NASA wants to to use the dense atmosphere as a base for exploration
Manned mission could place two astronauts above the surface for 30 days
Would follow 110-day trip to Earth's nearest neighbor


That's right, NASA wants to build a cloud city above Venus!
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Old 10-21-18, 07:41 AM
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This is a very cool idea!

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news...space-10844096

China is planning to launch its own "artificial moon" by 2020 to replace street lamps and lower electricity costs in urban areas, state media reported Friday (Oct 19).

Chengdu, a city in southwestern Sichuan province, is developing "illumination satellites" which will shine in tandem with the real moon, but are eight times brighter, according to China Daily.

The first man-made moon will launch from Xichang Satellite Launch Center in Sichuan, with three more to follow in 2022 if the first test goes well, said Wu Chunfeng, head of Tian Fu New Area Science Society, the organisation responsible for the project.

Though the first launch will be experimental, the 2022 satellites "will be the real deal with great civic and commercial potential", he said in an interview with China Daily.

By reflecting light from the sun, the satellites could replace street lamps in urban areas, saving an estimated 1.2 billion yuan (US$170 million) a year in electricity costs for Chengdu, if the man-made moons illuminate an area of 50 square kilometers.



Next up, giant space based magnifying glasses to burn city's from orbit!
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Old 10-22-18, 02:56 PM
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Mars may have enough oxygen underneath its surface for life

The possibility of life on Mars has been a tantalizing possibility for years, and recent discoveries have only increased excitement about whether we'll find life on the red planet. Now, a new study in Nature Geoscience posits that it's possible that Mars may have enough oxygen to harbor life under its surface.

The team was led by Vlada Stamenković from NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL), and their findings stemmed from two different discoveries. We know there's a possibility that there are subsurface lakes of briny water on Mars; one in particular may be located under the Martian polar ice cap. This means there's a lot of potential for oxygen within these lakes, if they exist.

Back in 2016, the Mars Curiosity rover discovered that Mars may once have had an oxygen-rich atmosphere, but the loss of its magnetic field meant that the bulk of its surface oxygen escaped. However, there is still oxygen within the planet's rocks which means that it may be present underneath the surface of the planet.
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Old 10-23-18, 09:33 AM
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I suspect that it's not a question of "if" we find life on Mars but "when" we find life on Mars.
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Old 10-25-18, 05:38 PM
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While on the first reading this may come across as a problem you know space travel is becoming routine when issues like this arise:

https://spacenews.com/nasa-issues-ca...lunar-landers/
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Old 10-25-18, 05:42 PM
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SpaceX nears another important milestone:

https://arstechnica.com/science/2018...me-next-month/

SpaceX has re-used its Falcon 9 rocket 16 times, but the company has never flown a single first stage more than twice. However, in May of this year the company debuted a newer version of its Falcon 9 rocket, dubbed Block 5, that is specifically optimized for reusability across multiple flights.

The company has not officially confirmed its plans, but at present SpaceX intends to reuse a Falcon 9 rocket for the third time to launch a rideshare mission of dozens of small satellites for Spaceflight. This Spaceflight SSO-A mission currently has a launch date of November 19, according to a calendar maintained by Spaceflight Now. An earlier report in The Space Review previously indicated this mission may involve the third flight of a booster.
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Old 10-28-18, 10:07 AM
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Snow squalls on Mars!

https://phys.org/news/2018-10-mars-e...ous-cloud.html

Since 13 September, ESA's Mars Express has been observing the evolution of an elongated cloud formation hovering in the vicinity of the 20 km-high Arsia Mons volcano, close to the planet's equator.

In spite of its location, this atmospheric feature is not linked to volcanic activity but is rather a water ice cloud driven by the influence of the volcano's leeward slope on the air flow – something that scientists call an orographic or lee cloud – and a regular phenomenon in this region.

The cloud can be seen in this view taken on 10 October by the Visual Monitoring Camera (VMC) on Mars Express – which has imaged it hundreds of times over the past few weeks – as the white, elongated feature extending 1500 km westward of Arsia Mons. As a comparison, the cone-shaped volcano has a diameter of about 250 km; a view of the region with labels is provided here.

Mars just experienced its northern hemisphere winter solstice on 16 October. In the months leading up to the solstice, most cloud activity disappears over big volcanoes like Arsia Mons; its summit is covered with clouds throughout the rest of the martian year.



Okay maybe it's not quite a snow squall but a big cloud during the Martian winter? Check the article out for some great pictures.
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Old 10-29-18, 05:56 PM
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Here's the latest update on that amazing Japanese effort to land on an asteroid, collect samples and return to Earth:

https://www.space.com/42268-hayabusa...d-landing.html

Japan's Hayabusa2 spacecraft is getting ready to touch down on asteroid Ryugu, where it will scoop a sample of the asteroid's rocky surface that will eventually be sent back to Earth.

After narrowing down the possible landing sites for Hayabusa2, mission scientists performed a sampling rehearsal on Wednesday (Oct. 24) at 10:47 p.m. EST (0247 GMT on Oct. 25), and the mission is "ramping up the steps toward a successful touchdown," Masaki Fujimoto of the Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA) said at a news conference here at the 50th meeting of the American Astronomical Society's Division for Planetary Sciences (DPS).
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Old 10-31-18, 06:34 PM
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Some fun and interesting speculation!
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Old 11-03-18, 10:06 AM
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And the commercialization of space continues to gather momentum. First a nice update on that big Texas space port being planned by SpaceX:

https://www.popularmechanics.com/spa...xas-spaceport/


And here's an interesting company:

https://spacenews.com/asteroid-minin...ockchain-firm/

Planetary Resources Inc., once a high-flying company backed by billionaires with aspirations to mine asteroids, only to later suffer funding problems, has been acquired by a blockchain company, the firms announced Oct. 31.
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Old 11-05-18, 06:01 PM
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In case you were wondering where that Tesla Roadster was in the solar system:

https://www.space.com/42337-spacex-t...yond-mars.html

Starman has put a lot of miles on his Tesla Roadster in the last nine months.

The red electric car and its spacesuit-clad mannequin driver, which launched on the maiden mission of SpaceX's huge Falcon Heavy rocket in February, have made it beyond the orbit of Mars, company representatives said Friday night (Nov. 2).


A billion years from now this thing will crash onto a planet and really screw some young civilization up!
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Old 11-05-18, 06:19 PM
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In case you were wondering where that Tesla Roadster was in the solar system:

https://www.space.com/42337-spacex-t...yond-mars.html

Starman has put a lot of miles on his Tesla Roadster in the last nine months.

The red electric car and its spacesuit-clad mannequin driver, which launched on the maiden mission of SpaceX's huge Falcon Heavy rocket in February, have made it beyond the orbit of Mars, company representatives said Friday night (Nov. 2).


A billion years from now this thing will crash onto a planet and really screw some young civilization up!

or become a God to some burgeoning civilization.
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