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View Poll Results: Who wins?
Kirtland by 17+ 2 2.33%
Kirtland by 8-16 5 5.81%
Kirtland by 1-7 19 22.09%
Marion Local by 1-7 19 22.09%
Marion Local by 8-16 31 36.05%
Marion Local by 17+ 10 11.63%
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Old 11-24-17, 09:47 PM
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D VI State Championship: Marion Local (14-0) vs Kirtland (14-0)

Both know how to win titles. Who wins this one?
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Old 11-24-17, 09:50 PM
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Marion Local by 14.

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Old 11-24-17, 09:54 PM
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Congrats on the Flyers making it to an astonishing 7th straight state title game.
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Old 11-24-17, 09:59 PM
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Congrats on the Flyers making it to an astonishing 7th straight state title game.
Only one loss in the state finals during that streak....to Kirtland. Amazing program Kirtland has. Tons of respect for them. Should be a great game.

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Old 11-24-17, 10:06 PM
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Kirtland’s 6th title game in 7 years. Wow! The history between these programs and now conferences with CH and Minster in D7. Next weekend is going to be great! Best of luck to you MAC fans. We’re expecting a couple of dog fights with you guys.
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Old 11-24-17, 10:36 PM
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Only one loss in the state finals during that streak....to Kirtland. Amazing program Kirtland has. Tons of respect for them. Should be a great game.

Go Flyers
Right back at you! Lots of respect for ML and all MAC teams from this Kirtland Fan! ML is the prohibitive favorite this year according to Calpreps and Drew Pasteur, but I hope that it's a good game!

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Old 11-24-17, 10:38 PM
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Kirtland’s 6th title game in 7 years. Wow! The history between these programs and now conferences with CH and Minster in D7. Next weekend is going to be great! Best of luck to you MAC fans. We’re expecting a couple of dog fights with you guys.
Cuyahoga Hts stopped Kirtland's consecutive championship game appearance streak last year, and the Flyers beat the Redskins, as we know. I'm pulling for the Redskins against Minster this year. Martin is a class coach for CH, very similar to LaVerde from Kirtland, and I'd like to see Coach Martin and his team get a championship!
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Old 11-24-17, 11:16 PM
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Game will be on Saturday 12/2 @ 10AM
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Old 11-24-17, 11:26 PM
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Anyone interested, the Marion Local/Liberty-Benton game will be on

http://wosn.tv/

at midnight tonight, 3:30 am, 8 am, 6pm
The Minster/St. Paul game is on at 10:30am, 9pm

They Stream their TV station, works pretty well on computer. Don't know how it works on tablets/Phones.
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Old 11-24-17, 11:34 PM
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Marion Local 33
Kirtland 24
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Old 11-24-17, 11:47 PM
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This is going to be a great game! Throw out the stats/records/numbers. Gonna be a hard hitting exciting game.

ML 28
Kirtland 24
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I like Kirtland 27-24 in a close back n forth game like 2 years ago.
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Old 11-25-17, 07:30 AM
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Until the playoffs, and 4 consecutive shutouts Weeks 10-13, I had figured this was a year Marion Local will get tripped up. I think Kirtland is the team to do that, however Marion Local is playing so well it's hard to predict.
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Old 11-25-17, 08:08 AM
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For my money, this is the marquee matchup of the weekend. I would encourage any high school football fan with the time Saturday morning to consider taking this game in.
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Old 11-25-17, 08:12 AM
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Flyers by a score or 2
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Old 11-25-17, 08:15 AM
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Until the playoffs, and 4 consecutive shutouts Weeks 10-13, I had figured this was a year Marion Local will get tripped up. I think Kirtland is the team to do that, however Marion Local is playing so well it's hard to predict.
Marion Local is on another level right now. Their defense is outstanding!
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Old 11-25-17, 08:18 AM
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This is the best matchup on paper for the weekend. Two unbelievable programs going head to head in the final once again. CVC vs MAC. Should be a great one.
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Wanna know how to build a football program? Go watch these two programs play. Best game of the championships. Marion Local wins these games. ML 34-26
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Old 11-25-17, 08:51 AM
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I am not sure if Marion can slow down Kirtland's power run game. ML doesn't face a running game quite like it, and Kirtland is significantly larger than Marion. I think it comes down to ML's passing game. It has been off the last few weeks(possibly due to the wind).
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I am not sure if Marion can slow down Kirtland's power run game. ML doesn't face a running game quite like it, and Kirtland is significantly larger than Marion. I think it comes down to ML's passing game. It has been off the last few weeks(possibly due to the wind).


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Old 11-25-17, 09:15 AM
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Kirtland's O-line probably avg.'s 250lbs., ( their not fat). ML avg.'s under 220 with the rt. tackle at 290 next biggest is 210. Agree with Who Dey's analysis ML needs to have the passing game in synch.
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Old 11-25-17, 10:16 AM
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Offensively this Kirtland team is similar to the Delphos Saint John teams of the late 90's early 2000's big and mobile. Believe ML will need to score 4 td.s to win this game.
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Old 11-25-17, 10:20 AM
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Kirtland's O-line probably avg.'s 250lbs., ( their not fat). ML avg.'s under 220 with the rt. tackle at 290 next biggest is 210. Agree with Who Dey's analysis ML needs to have the passing game in synch.
Not sure where everyone is getting that Kirtland's O line averaging 250. Maxpreps has them averaging about 210-220, which is big enough to get the job done, but not overwhelming. Like someone else posted, these kids are not fat. They are in great shape.

Hopefully predicting programs are wrong (about ML being favored by 14+) and this will be a good close game!

BTW, in 2015, ML was favored by 14 against Kirtland as well. Turnovers and a late whistle did in the Flyers in 2015 after it seemed that ML had the game well in hand. I'm hoping for a clean, turnover-free game between two great programs!
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Old 11-25-17, 10:26 AM
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[QUOTE=Kirtland Fan;6924241]Not sure where everyone is getting that Kirtland's O line averaging 250. Maxpreps has them averaging about 210-220, which is big enough to get the job done, but not overwhelming. Like someone else posted, these kids are not fat. They are in great shape.

Hopefully predicting programs are wrong (about ML being favored by 14+) and this will be a good close game!

BTW, in 2015, ML was favored by 14 against Kirtland as well. Turnovers and a late whistle did in the Flyers in 2015 after it seemed that ML had the game well in hand. I'm hoping for a clean, turnover-free game between two great programs![/QUOTE

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Old 11-25-17, 10:29 AM
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Offensively this Kirtland team is similar to the Delphos Saint John teams of the late 90's early 2000's big and mobile. Believe ML will need to score 4 td.s to win this game.
ML's advantage over Kirtland is that ML's offense can run and pass equally well whereas Kirtland's pass defense is suspect, and Kirtland is one-dimensional on offense (90% run). If ML can stuff Kirtland's running game consistently the entire game, Kirtland will be in trouble. Of course, turnovers and penalties can be the great equalizer, and no one can predict those. I hope that turnovers and penalties don't affect the outcome of this game. I'd love to see a close, hard-fought and clean game between these perennially successful programs!
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Old 11-25-17, 10:33 AM
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Not sure where everyone is getting that Kirtland's O line averaging 250. Maxpreps has them averaging about 210-220, which is big enough to get the job done, but not overwhelming. Like someone else posted, these kids are not fat. They are in great shape.

Hopefully predicting programs are wrong (about ML being favored by 14+) and this will be a good close game!

BTW, in 2015, ML was favored by 14 against Kirtland as well. Turnovers and a late whistle did in the Flyers in 2015 after it seemed that ML had the game well in hand. I'm hoping for a clean, turnover-free game between two great programs![/QUOTE

Got their weights from OHSAA's State semi-final football program.
OK, didn't know OHSAA published that kind of stuff. Do you think those stats are accurate? We've all seen how a player's stats are exaggerated in programs, articles, etc..... I guess that it doesn't matter in the end. I've seen bigger sized teams lose to smaller sized teams, and vice versa. At this stage of the season, it comes down to conditioning and execution.
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Not sure where everyone is getting that Kirtland's O line averaging 250. Maxpreps has them averaging about 210-220, which is big enough to get the job done, but not overwhelming. Like someone else posted, these kids are not fat. They are in great shape.

Hopefully predicting programs are wrong (about ML being favored by 14+) and this will be a good close game!

BTW, in 2015, ML was favored by 14 against Kirtland as well. Turnovers and a late whistle did in the Flyers in 2015 after it seemed that ML had the game well in hand. I'm hoping for a clean, turnover-free game between two great programs!


Maxpreps is wrong (in regards to Kirtland O-line), they avg 250


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Will be pulling for Kirtland, but Marion Local looks like a well oiled machine that's just trouncing very good teams. I'll predict Flyers by 10 but hoping for a 2015 repeat.
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Old 11-25-17, 11:40 AM
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Will be pulling for Kirtland, but Marion Local looks like a well oiled machine that's just trouncing very good teams. I'll predict Flyers by 10 but hoping for a 2015 repeat.
You mean many turnovers by ML like 2015? If so, I'm hoping the same thing, but I agree with your predicted score in a straight-up game with no turnovers.
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Old 11-25-17, 11:51 AM
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Really believe this game is a toss-up. When it comes to small school football NE Ohio and the MAC has separated itself from the rest of the state not sure why that is but its pretty obvious. Will go with the Flyers 27-21 but I think this game could go either way.
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