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Old 11-15-17, 09:19 AM
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I can't remember a year where everyone didn't say this about Central. It is so hard to tell in small school football. Some people don't stick with it and life happens sometimes.
Hey Jet19, What is with the story coming out of Jetland... I have heard rumblings through the grapevine that CHT (Coach Hat Thrower) is out after this past debacle of a season as leader at the reigns of a failing program. I think I ask you this before. However this time is sounds like the program is being handed off to the DC that could not stop peanut butter from falling out of the jar( lol) let alone stop any of the teams in the OHC North. Can you confirm?
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Old 11-17-17, 11:10 AM
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Hey Jet19, What is with the story coming out of Jetland... I have heard rumblings through the grapevine that CHT (Coach Hat Thrower) is out after this past debacle of a season as leader at the reigns of a failing program. I think I ask you this before. However this time is sounds like the program is being handed off to the DC that could not stop peanut butter from falling out of the jar( lol) let alone stop any of the teams in the OHC North. Can you confirm?
No I can not. My little cousin played this season and has his entire life and is really upset how his senior year went after putting so much work in all those years. I am not in that loop of people. I can try and find out though. I have heard the same stuff you just said.
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Old 11-17-17, 12:06 PM
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No I can not. My little cousin played this season and has his entire life and is really upset how his senior year went after putting so much work in all those years. I am not in that loop of people. I can try and find out though. I have heard the same stuff you just said.
I always thought the school had to post the open position for a coach?! I didn't think they could just "pass the torch" to someone.
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Old 11-17-17, 12:28 PM
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From what I understand about open coaching positions at the jr. high and high school level are the position is offered to someone within the district first (teacher, custodian, principle...) and then to anyone outside of the district who is qualified. Although passing the torch does happen at times. For example, I know of a h.s. softball coach that was resigning and he had a couple of people in mind that were well known in the community and had previously coached the girls in travel ball or within the youth organization. Those two were referred to the district and meetings were set up.
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Old 11-17-17, 12:29 PM
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Good Luck WJ! Make the OHC proud!
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Old 11-28-17, 09:03 AM
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I think my suspicions of the OHC being down this year were proven in the postseason. Unfortunately, I thought WJ would fair a little better then they did.

The good news is, I truly believe we will be a much better conference again next year!
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Old 11-28-17, 10:24 AM
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Does being a much better conference mean that the best team in said conference goes forward until it meets a MAC school? Several years ago a Marion Local football fan told me the OHC was a weak conference. I believe this to be a true fact until the OHC beats ( not comes close) a top MAC school weak the OHC will be.
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Old 11-28-17, 11:11 AM
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I don't know if the OHC will have a 2018 team as good as WJ was this year. It sounds like Mechanicsburg and Fairbanks will be better in 2018 than they were in 2017. WLS, I don't know what they have returning. WJ will be ok, probably more of a running team. Jamestown Greenview, I believe loses quite a bit and Madison Plains loses a lot. It would be great to see the OHC South just become competitive but as long as the participation #'s remain low, I don't see any change.

The OHC and all the small schools in the state of Ohio are chasing the MAC. Regarding football, Marion Local & Coldwater are on Ohio historic all time great runs of success over the last 15 years. Minster has had a nice run the last few years but even the MAC teams are trailing Marion Local & Coldwater. I believe WJ over the last 10+ years is right there/competitive with the rest of the MAC, WJ has fallen to Marion Local & Coldwater in the playoffs 5 times in the last 10 years. Only Kirkland has broken thru the Marion Local/Coldwarer stranglehold of Ohio small school football.
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Old 11-28-17, 11:14 AM
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Does being a much better conference mean that the best team in said conference goes forward until it meets a MAC school? Several years ago a Marion Local football fan told me the OHC was a weak conference. I believe this to be a true fact until the OHC beats ( not comes close) a top MAC school weak the OHC will be.
Thank you for your insight... It is much appreciated. Correct me if I am wrong wls, but I believe what wls was stating that the conference as a whole was down this year and in a year the teams will be a year older and stronger. I don't recall him saying anything about the MAC. Yes we all know about the MAC and that high school football would not exist without them. I as a WJ fan know the MAC well due to our run ins in the past before we entered the OHC while we were in the Mid State League. The MAC is good and the best small school conference in the state. Just don't understand why you mentioned them when they were not even brought up and had nothing to do with wls post. Cor
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Old 11-28-17, 01:33 PM
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Rumor is Central will not field a team in 2018.
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Old 11-28-17, 01:54 PM
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Thank you for your insight... It is much appreciated. Correct me if I am wrong wls, but I believe what wls was stating that the conference as a whole was down this year and in a year the teams will be a year older and stronger. I don't recall him saying anything about the MAC. Yes we all know about the MAC and that high school football would not exist without them. I as a WJ fan know the MAC well due to our run ins in the past before we entered the OHC while we were in the Mid State League. The MAC is good and the best small school conference in the state. Just don't understand why you mentioned them when they were not even brought up and had nothing to do with wls post. Cor
Confirmed, that's precisely what (and all that) I was saying.

Glad we could inject some MAC dominance into this thread though. No one from the OHC knows how good they are, the 0-26 record doesn't speak for itself. Let's just shut this thread down and make it about the MAC now...the OHC isn't worthy of it's own thread.
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Old 11-28-17, 02:02 PM
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Does being a much better conference mean that the best team in said conference goes forward until it meets a MAC school? Several years ago a Marion Local football fan told me the OHC was a weak conference. I believe this to be a true fact until the OHC beats ( not comes close) a top MAC school weak the OHC will be.
No, it means that as a whole, the OHC will have better caliber football next year. Where does the MAC talk come into play? I didn't say that the OHC was going to win state titles in D5, D6 and D7 - you can't compare the OHC to the MAC right now.

The OHC is 44-23 all-time in the playoffs against non-MAC teams and 30-12 against non-MAC teams in the opening round. To call us weak is a little asinine. We aren't the MAC, but I think we've held our own among every other small-school conference in Ohio.
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Old 11-29-17, 06:51 PM
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I don't know if the OHC will have a 2018 team as good as WJ was this year. It sounds like Mechanicsburg and Fairbanks will be better in 2018 than they were in 2017. WLS, I don't know what they have returning. WJ will be ok, probably more of a running team. Jamestown Greenview, I believe loses quite a bit and Madison Plains loses a lot. It would be great to see the OHC South just become competitive but as long as the participation #'s remain low, I don't see any change.

The OHC and all the small schools in the state of Ohio are chasing the MAC. Regarding football, Marion Local & Coldwater are on Ohio historic all time great runs of success over the last 15 years. Minster has had a nice run the last few years but even the MAC teams are trailing Marion Local & Coldwater. I believe WJ over the last 10+ years is right there/competitive with the rest of the MAC, WJ has fallen to Marion Local & Coldwater in the playoffs 5 times in the last 10 years. Only Kirkland has broken thru the Marion Local/Coldwarer stranglehold of Ohio small school football.
Greeneview only loses 6 seniors. They will have 12-15 seniors next season. I think they will be much better next year than they were this year.
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Old 11-30-17, 07:57 AM
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Greeneview only loses 6 seniors. They will have 12-15 seniors next season. I think they will be much better next year than they were this year.
That's great! I think the only team that takes a step back is West Jefferson (although I don't think it will be a big one). WLS loses their best athlete (Moell) and some of their more experienced / bigger lineman - but all in all I think they will be better too.
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Old 11-30-17, 10:51 AM
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That's great! I think the only team that takes a step back is West Jefferson (although I don't think it will be a big one). WLS loses their best athlete (Moell) and some of their more experienced / bigger lineman - but all in all I think they will be better too.
I wish we played you guys next year...we need to unload Wanesville and pick up a tougher team.
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Old 12-04-17, 08:57 AM
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I wish we played you guys next year...we need to unload Wanesville and pick up a tougher team.
I agree. We've had some great games the last few years. I am not a fan of our current crossover games - they aren't helping us at all. I wonder when the next time we play is? Hopefully 2019 & 2020.
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Old 12-04-17, 07:36 PM
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Hopefully 19-20....do you know if there is somewhere that the list of the all ohc team players are listed for 2017.. I looked on the website but all that is posted is 2016 and later..would like to see the underclassmen on the list to see what is coming back for next season?
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Old 12-04-17, 11:23 PM
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Fairbanks is my favorite to win the North. We wonít know much about the south until the season starts IMO


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Old 12-07-17, 09:42 AM
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Fairbanks is my favorite to win the North. We wonít know much about the south until the season starts IMO


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I agree Fairbanks will be much improved but that will be all tall task with all that WLS and Burg have coming back. And I'm sure West Jefferson will be just fine too.

The 4th best team in the North next season could probably either win the south and would no doubt finish no worse than 2nd. Should be interesting.
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Old 12-07-17, 09:49 AM
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I agree Fairbanks will be much improved but that will be all tall task with all that WLS and Burg have coming back. And I'm sure West Jefferson will be just fine too.



The 4th best team in the North next season could probably either win the south and would no doubt finish no worse than 2nd. Should be interesting.


Fairbanks won the North last year and only graduated a couple of players. Albeit one of them is a significant loss, but they have a really solid junior this year. Letís also not forget that there JV team last year went 19-1 or something like that last year...

There Freshman team was decent and I believe both 7th & 8th grade teams played in the championship game last year...they will be strong for the next 6 years or so


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Old 12-07-17, 10:05 AM
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Pepe, I think you should have posted that on the OHC basketball forum.
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Old 12-12-17, 11:16 AM
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Fairbanks won the North last year and only graduated a couple of players. Albeit one of them is a significant loss, but they have a really solid junior this year. Letís also not forget that there JV team last year went 19-1 or something like that last year...

There Freshman team was decent and I believe both 7th & 8th grade teams played in the championship game last year...they will be strong for the next 6 years or so


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Fairbanks finished 4th in the North this past season. Are you talking about football?
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Old 12-12-17, 11:22 AM
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Fairbanks finished 4th in the North this past season. Are you talking about football?


I was not. Whoops, wrong thread


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Old 12-13-17, 05:21 PM
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The 2018 non league schedules for OHC teams doesn't look too challenging, only 3 non league opponents made the playoffs in 2017, none of the 3 made it to week 12. Three teams have openings in week 1 and two teams have an opening in week 2. WJ, WLS and Mechanicsburg all have week one openings, each should look for a formidable opponent who can provide computer points. The week three OHC crossover game will continue to hurt potential playoff teams, it would be better to have a bye/open week than to play a 0-10 or 1-9 team.

OHC North
WJ 12-1 D5, R20. Wk 1 Open. Wk 2 Bishop Ready D5, R19 7-4
Mechanicsburg 8-3 D6, R24. Wk 1 Open. Wk 2 De Graff Ruverside D7, R28 6-5
WLS 8-2 D6, R24. Wk1 Open. Wk 2 Ben Logan D4, R16 5-5
Fairbanks 5-5 D6, R23. Wk 1 at North Union D5, R18 4-6. Wk 2 Indian Lake D5, R18 7-4
Springfield NE 1-9, D6, R24. Wk 1 Worthington Christian D5, R19 5-5. Wk 2 Springfield NW D4, R16 4-6
Triad 1-9 D7, R28. Wk 1 at Bradford D7, R28 0-10. Wk 2 Ridgemont D7, R28 0-10

OHC South
Greeneview 10-1 D5, R20. Wk 1 at Arcanum D6, R24 4-6. Wk 2 Waynesville D5, R20 1-9
Madison Plains 5-5 D5, R20. Wk 1 at Westfall D4, R15 3-7. Wk 2 Open
South Charleston SE 4-6 D7, R28. Wk 1 Springfield NW D4, R16 4-6. Wk 2 at St Paris Graham D4, R16 1-9
Springfield Greenon 3-6 D5, R20. Wk 1 at Shawnee D4, R16 5-5. Wk 2 Hamilton New Miami D7, R28 2-8
Springfield Catholic Central 3-7 D7, R28. Wk 1 at Grove City Christian D7, R27 4-6. Wk 2 Open
Cedarville 1-9 D7, R28. Wk 1 at Mississinawa Valley D7, R28 1-9. Wk 2 East Clinton D5, R20 3-7
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Old 12-14-17, 10:29 AM
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I hope all the OHC teams have great off-seasons. I honestly hope NE gets the train going in the right direction. They have some good talent there, and those coaches do put in a lot of time and effort. You could tell they were frustrated with the results this past season. I am hearing there might be a freshman quarterback coming up that could possibly contend for the starting spot. Did I read it correctly that they open with Worthington Christian? I believe their new coach is Jeff Hartings. Former St.Henry standout, Penn State (All-American maybe??), Lions Guard/Steelers Center. That could be a tough team!
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Old 12-14-17, 10:45 AM
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WJ, WLS and Mechanicsburg all have week one openings, each should look for a formidable opponent who can provide computer points.
Marion Local is open in week one.
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Old 12-15-17, 10:18 AM
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I hope all the OHC teams have great off-seasons. I honestly hope NE gets the train going in the right direction. They have some good talent there, and those coaches do put in a lot of time and effort. You could tell they were frustrated with the results this past season. I am hearing there might be a freshman quarterback coming up that could possibly contend for the starting spot. Did I read it correctly that they open with Worthington Christian? I believe their new coach is Jeff Hartings. Former St.Henry standout, Penn State (All-American maybe??), Lions Guard/Steelers Center. That could be a tough team!
You cannot be serious! That is a train wreck and NE! Those coaches have lost all control there! I saw them play once and it was the ugliest football I have ever witnessed! I saw them have 45 yards of penalties on one drive and Coach Hat thrower got two delay of games after a timeout! I also never say more personal fouls by one team than I did from NE. Turned around that Coaching Staff needed to complete overhaul! Also they need to get rid of the, "Friends and Family" way of thinking to make roster decisions! The best thing for NE would be if the School Board finally Combined Schools!
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Old 12-15-17, 11:51 AM
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I hope all the OHC teams have great off-seasons. I honestly hope NE gets the train going in the right direction. They have some good talent there, and those coaches do put in a lot of time and effort. You could tell they were frustrated with the results this past season. I am hearing there might be a freshman quarterback coming up that could possibly contend for the starting spot. Did I read it correctly that they open with Worthington Christian? I believe their new coach is Jeff Hartings. Former St.Henry standout, Penn State (All-American maybe??), Lions Guard/Steelers Center. That could be a tough team!
Worthington Christian is not a tough team.
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Old 12-15-17, 12:48 PM
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The 2018 non league schedules for OHC teams doesn't look too challenging, only 3 non league opponents made the playoffs in 2017, none of the 3 made it to week 12. Three teams have openings in week 1 and two teams have an opening in week 2. WJ, WLS and Mechanicsburg all have week one openings, each should look for a formidable opponent who can provide computer points. The week three OHC crossover game will continue to hurt potential playoff teams, it would be better to have a bye/open week than to play a 0-10 or 1-9 team.

OHC North
WJ 12-1 D5, R20. Wk 1 Open. Wk 2 Bishop Ready D5, R19 7-4
Mechanicsburg 8-3 D6, R24. Wk 1 Open. Wk 2 De Graff Ruverside D7, R28 6-5
WLS 8-2 D6, R24. Wk1 Open. Wk 2 Ben Logan D4, R16 5-5
Fairbanks 5-5 D6, R23. Wk 1 at North Union D5, R18 4-6. Wk 2 Indian Lake D5, R18 7-4
Springfield NE 1-9, D6, R24. Wk 1 Worthington Christian D5, R19 5-5. Wk 2 Springfield NW D4, R16 4-6
Triad 1-9 D7, R28. Wk 1 at Bradford D7, R28 0-10. Wk 2 Ridgemont D7, R28 0-10

OHC South
Greeneview 10-1 D5, R20. Wk 1 at Arcanum D6, R24 4-6. Wk 2 Waynesville D5, R20 1-9
Madison Plains 5-5 D5, R20. Wk 1 at Westfall D4, R15 3-7. Wk 2 Open
South Charleston SE 4-6 D7, R28. Wk 1 Springfield NW D4, R16 4-6. Wk 2 at St Paris Graham D4, R16 1-9
Springfield Greenon 3-6 D5, R20. Wk 1 at Shawnee D4, R16 5-5. Wk 2 Hamilton New Miami D7, R28 2-8
Springfield Catholic Central 3-7 D7, R28. Wk 1 at Grove City Christian D7, R27 4-6. Wk 2 Open
Cedarville 1-9 D7, R28. Wk 1 at Mississinawa Valley D7, R28 1-9. Wk 2 East Clinton D5, R20 3-7
I'm pretty positive that the Burg opens with Kenton Ridge week 1 next year
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Old 12-15-17, 12:59 PM
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You cannot be serious! That is a train wreck and NE! Those coaches have lost all control there! I saw them play once and it was the ugliest football I have ever witnessed! I saw them have 45 yards of penalties on one drive and Coach Hat thrower got two delay of games after a timeout! I also never say more personal fouls by one team than I did from NE. Turned around that Coaching Staff needed to complete overhaul! Also they need to get rid of the, "Friends and Family" way of thinking to make roster decisions! The best thing for NE would be if the School Board finally Combined Schools!
All Iím saying is I hope it gets fixed. They do have some talent out there. The coaches did put the time and effort in....I just donít know what happened this season. I was very close to the program, but this this year I wasnít. Not here to argue, just hoping their off-season goes well and it gets turned around.
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