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Old 11-18-17, 09:40 AM
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Hre's some more on the numbskulls who want to sing a chorus of Kumbaya in our neighborhood of the galaxy:

http://www.businessinsider.com/human...b-meti-2017-11

Humans just tried to contact intelligent aliens.

On Oct. 16, 17, and 18 a team of musicians and scientists sent a message to aliens. They sent the message via radio waves and transmitted it 9 different times. This helps ensure that all the information reaches its destination

What's in the message?

Thirty-three musical pieces, each 10 seconds long, a tutorial on how humans keep time, and when we will be listening for a response.

The message is headed for a nearby exoplanet named GJ 273b. GJ 273b is what astronomers call a "Super Earth". It's slightly more massive than Earth and is within its star's habitable zone. GJ 273b is a good candidate for alien life.


First off what if they hate our tunes? That alone could touch off an interstellar war. But from a serious standpoint we don't know enough about our galactic neighborhood to be sending message out. This is the height of irresponsibility. It could be that in our neck of the galaxy we are the only intelligent race and the rest is a sterile wasteland. On the hand we could be living in a nightmare Hobbesion jungle of civilizations eating each other. We just don't know and as folks have said on this thread: "You don't shout out in the Jungle".
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Old 11-20-17, 06:27 PM
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Okay now this is an interesting story about a strange object that has invaded the solar system.

http://www.eso.org/public/news/eso1737/?lang

I posted about this a couple of weeks ago but they have now gotten more info on the "invader":

On 19 October 2017, the Pan-STARRS 1 telescope in Hawai`i picked up a faint point of light moving across the sky. It initially looked like a typical fast-moving small asteroid, but additional observations over the next couple of days allowed its orbit to be computed fairly accurately. The orbit calculations revealed beyond any doubt that this body did not originate from inside the Solar System, like all other asteroids or comets ever observed, but instead had come from interstellar space. Although originally classified as a comet, observations from ESO and elsewhere revealed no signs of cometary activity after it passed closest to the Sun in September 2017. The object was reclassified as an interstellar asteroid and named 1I/2017 U1 (`Oumuamua) [1].

“We had to act quickly,” explains team member Olivier Hainaut from ESO in Garching, Germany. “`Oumuamua had already passed its closest point to the Sun and was heading back into interstellar space.”

ESO’s Very Large Telescope was immediately called into action to measure the object’s orbit, brightness and colour more accurately than smaller telescopes could achieve. Speed was vital as `Oumuamua was rapidly fading as it headed away from the Sun and past the Earth’s orbit, on its way out of the Solar System. There were more surprises to come..........

Karen Meech explains the significance: “This unusually large variation in brightness means that the object is highly elongated: about ten times as long as it is wide, with a complex, convoluted shape. We also found that it has a dark red colour, similar to objects in the outer Solar System, and confirmed that it is completely inert, without the faintest hint of dust around it.”

These properties suggest that `Oumuamua is dense, possibly rocky or with high metal content, lacks significant amounts of water or ice, and that its surface is now dark and reddened due to the effects of irradiation from cosmic rays over millions of years. It is estimated to be at least 400 metres long.
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Old 11-20-17, 06:28 PM
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We are getting bombarded by more antimatter then we should be. Maybe "they" are softening us up?

https://www.sciencealert.com/pulsars...-ray-positrons

Amid the high speed cosmic rays raining down on us from the depths of space are a handful of antimatter particles called positrons.

Astronomers think that Earth is showered by these 'anti-electrons' because of pulsars, but there's a weird catch - there are more of these particles coming at us than there should be. And now, thanks to a new study, we might finally get some answers.
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Old 11-22-17, 08:02 PM
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Amazingly, the James Webb was undergoing "cryo testing" in Houston during hurricane Harvey, and all went well.

Following more than three months of environmental, thermal and optical testing, the James Webb Space Telescope (JWST) is said to be ready for shipment to California, ahead of its integration with a spacecraft and planned launch in 2019.

http://optics.org/news/8/11/33
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Old 11-24-17, 06:43 PM
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Amazingly, the James Webb was undergoing "cryo testing" in Houston during hurricane Harvey, and all went well.

Following more than three months of environmental, thermal and optical testing, the James Webb Space Telescope (JWST) is said to be ready for shipment to California, ahead of its integration with a spacecraft and planned launch in 2019.

http://optics.org/news/8/11/33
I can't wait to they get this scope up and running in space. It may blow away what we learned from Hubble and that's saying something!
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Old 11-24-17, 06:47 PM
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Oh my goodness. I didn't know flat earthers existed anymore:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.4677c6f77e47

Seeking to prove that a conspiracy of astronauts fabricated the shape of the Earth, a California man intends to launch himself 1,800 feet high on Saturday in a rocket he built from scrap metal.

Assuming the 500-mph, mile-long flight through the Mojave Desert does not kill him, Mike Hughes told the Associated Press, his journey into the atmosflat will mark the first phase of his ambitious flat-Earth space program.



Well you have to give the guy points for walking the talk! When he gets up into low orbit and looks out and sees that the earth is in fact "round" I wonder what he'll say as his "ship" comes crashing back to earth. Probably something along the lines of "Oh F@@K".
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Old 11-24-17, 06:50 PM
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Now this is progress and of course This Buds for You!

https://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-t...rew-beer-mars/

When Budweiser maker Anheuser-Busch announced earlier this year that it wanted to be the first company to brew beer on Mars, most commentators thought that it had its tongue lodged so firmly in its cheek that delicate surgery would be required to remove it.

But the beer brand clearly isn’t letting go of the idea, this week announcing that it’s “upholding its commitment” and moving forward with the first stage of the plan. It involves sending barley seeds to the International Space Station (ISS) this December to learn about how beer ingredients react in a microgravity environment.

Budweiser is predicting, perhaps wisely, that when we finally build a city on Mars, as hoped for by the likes of SpaceX CEO Elon Musk and officials in Dubai, its inhabitants may want to quaff a beer or two from time to time. And Budweiser wants to be there to brew it.
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Old 11-27-17, 09:17 AM
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Here is a wonderful article that lays out how we screwed up the Apollo program:

http://thehill.com/opinion/technolog...our-government

A number of reasons existed for the truncation of the Apollo program. The Nixon administration wanted to cut the federal budget. Congress was keen to concentrate more government resources on social programs. Public interest in moon landings had started to wane. NASA was fixated on future projects, such as the space shuttle program. In any event, the United States threw away an opportunity to make Apollo an even greater thing than it was, without the benefit of much monetary savings.

Nixon & Congress screwed things up - I wish you could see my shocked face. And for the record did all that money (not very much actually) that we saved in cancelling these moon missions eliminate poverty in the USA?
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Old 11-27-17, 09:20 AM
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Check out this article for some amazing pictures of the rings of Saturn courtesy of the Cassini probe:

https://www.space.com/38866-nasa-cas...ell-photo.html

And did you know that Saturn has 60 moons! I sure didn't.
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Old 11-27-17, 06:40 PM
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Here is a wonderful article that lays out how we screwed up the Apollo program:

http://thehill.com/opinion/technolog...our-government

A number of reasons existed for the truncation of the Apollo program. The Nixon administration wanted to cut the federal budget. Congress was keen to concentrate more government resources on social programs. Public interest in moon landings had started to wane. NASA was fixated on future projects, such as the space shuttle program. In any event, the United States threw away an opportunity to make Apollo an even greater thing than it was, without the benefit of much monetary savings.

Nixon & Congress screwed things up - I wish you could see my shocked face. And for the record did all that money (not very much actually) that we saved in cancelling these moon missions eliminate poverty in the USA?
NASA's budget in 1966 (peak year during the Apollo program) = 4.41% of the federal budget.

NASA's budget in 2012 = 0.48%. Less than a half-penny on the tax dollar.

Big difference. If our budget was just a penny on the dollar, we would be to infinity and beyond! (or at least to Mars...maybe)
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Old 11-29-17, 08:35 AM
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If the enormous long term economic benefits aren't enough to convince you that we should be funding our space program BIG TIME ..........

If the huge ancillary gains in technology aren't enough to convince you that we should be funding our space program BIG TIME ..........

If the sheer wonder of space exploration isn't enough to convince you that we should be funding our space program BIG TIME ..........

Then how about this:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/asteroi...arth-40-years/

A large flying object expected in December has caught NASA's attention, but it isn't Santa Claus' sleigh.

Instead, an asteroid called 3200 Phaethon is projected to come close enough to Earth that it's been classified as "potentially hazardous" by the International Astronomical Union's Minor Planet Center.

The asteroid has a diameter of about 3 miles, according to NASA, making it the third-largest "potentially hazardous" asteroid to pass by Earth.

NASA expects Phaethon to be the closest to Earth on Dec. 16, when it's projected to be more than 6.4 million miles away. That's about 27 times the average distance between Earth and the moon, which is 238,855 miles.



Sure it looks like this one will miss us by a comfortable margin but the TRUTH is one day we will be smack dab in the path of a killer asteroid. The sooner we establish off earth colonies and master our solar system the safer we'll be from these kinds of events. It's never been a question of IF an asteroid wipes us out it's always been a question of WHEN!
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Old 11-29-17, 07:11 PM
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... It's never been a question of IF an asteroid wipes us out it's always been a question of WHEN!
Just ask the dinosaurs.
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Old 11-30-17, 10:06 AM
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Just ask the dinosaurs.
And if the asteroid story gets you nervous BlackHawk check out this bit of space disaster that could wack us at any time:

https://nypost.com/2017/11/29/wed-on...m-were-to-hit/

Devastating space storms could strike Earth at any time – and we would only have 15 minutes of warning.

A direct hit from a space storm would wipe out power across the globe plunging the earth into complete darkness.

Chillingly, experts would only know about the cataclysmic phenomenon 15 minutes before it ploughs into us.

Space storms can come in a number of different forms but the most destructive is a coronal mass ejection (CME.)



The scary thing is that unlike the dinosaur extinction which happened in the distant past the last "space storm" to hit the earth that could have collapsed the global electric grid happened in the 1850's! There's been a lot of discussion over what would happen today if the same storm struck.
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Old 11-30-17, 07:44 PM
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And if the asteroid story gets you nervous BlackHawk check out this bit of space disaster that could wack us at any time:

https://nypost.com/2017/11/29/wed-on...m-were-to-hit/

Devastating space storms could strike Earth at any time – and we would only have 15 minutes of warning.

A direct hit from a space storm would wipe out power across the globe plunging the earth into complete darkness.

Chillingly, experts would only know about the cataclysmic phenomenon 15 minutes before it ploughs into us.

Space storms can come in a number of different forms but the most destructive is a coronal mass ejection (CME.)



The scary thing is that unlike the dinosaur extinction which happened in the distant past the last "space storm" to hit the earth that could have collapsed the global electric grid happened in the 1850's! There's been a lot of discussion over what would happen today if the same storm struck.
The infamous 1859 Carrington Event (geomagnetic solar storm) crashed telegraph systems worldwide. Telegraph systems! That's nothing compared to today's electrical grids and computer networks. Losing the electrical grid is a #1 legit concern as we rely on it for just about everything. I believe it's very likely that we'll experience a major grid fail in our lifetime via solar storm, computer hacking or other means. It would be chaos. I hope I'm wrong.
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Old 12-02-17, 04:40 PM
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Now here's something very interesting:

http://www.sciencealert.com/china-da...k-matter-hints

The search for dark matter continues, in part through China's Dark Matter Particle Explorer (DAMPE) – and the probe just picked up a suggestion of something on its instruments that suggests we could be getting closer to the big discovery.

No, we haven't found dark matter yet, but we have found what could be an indicator of it, leading us closer to this mysterious stuff that's believed to make up most of the Universe.
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Old 12-02-17, 04:40 PM
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The infamous 1859 Carrington Event (geomagnetic solar storm) crashed telegraph systems worldwide. Telegraph systems! That's nothing compared to today's electrical grids and computer networks. Losing the electrical grid is a #1 legit concern as we rely on it for just about everything. I believe it's very likely that we'll experience a major grid fail in our lifetime via solar storm, computer hacking or other means. It would be chaos. I hope I'm wrong.
I agree this might be the biggest natural threat facing us today.
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Old 12-02-17, 04:43 PM
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Maybe Trump could win some Millennial votes in 2020 if he promises to beef up the electrical grid.
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Old 12-02-17, 07:03 PM
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Maybe Trump could win some Millennial votes in 2020 if he promises to beef up the electrical grid.
Someone needs to do it and it would be one heck of a job creating infrastructure project. I wonder if the media would honestly report the danger we're in or in trying to hurt Trump would they minimize the risk and mock him like they mocked Reagan about the "Star Wars" ballistic missile defense system?

There is also a national security reason to do it: high altitude nuclear explosions can create a regional Carrington like effect. The greatest danger we face from North Korea's nuclear program might be their potential to wipe out a sizable part of our electrical grid.
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Old 12-02-17, 08:15 PM
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The media would lose even more credibility if they tried to spin that project. It's something even the far left progressive types want to get done.
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Old 12-05-17, 11:01 AM
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The final barrier to opening up the Solar System to human exploration & settlement has been broken: we can make pizza in space:

https://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2017/12...p&utm_medium=3

Of course they needed an Italian astronaut to do it. Here's the video which is a hoot:




The zero gravity effects look great, the Pizza - not so much.
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Old 12-05-17, 06:42 PM
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^^^Cold, uncooked pizza using store-bought Boboli crust is better than no pizza. I'm sure it's better than squeezing borscht out of a toothpaste-like tube. Yum.
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Old 12-06-17, 08:17 PM
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Cold space pizza is better than no pizza!
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Old 12-07-17, 09:41 AM
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Cold space pizza is better than no pizza!
Yes it is.

However, maybe instead of Pizza the ISS needs some Lysol:

https://nypost.com/2017/12/06/the-in...your-own-home/

A new study published in the journal PeerJ reveals that the inside of the International Space Station is actually teeming with microbial life and now after 17 years in use and without a single housekeeping visit, as many as 4,000 or more species of microbes can now be found inside. It might sound mighty nasty, but believe it or not, it’s actually good news.

As the article points out this is actually good news. Folks tend not to appreciate that human beings are loaded with bacteria (and that's a good thing BTW) and that in reality humans and bacteria have combined to create a hybrid organism. We would be in trouble without the protective effects of the human microbiome that covers us from head and toe and in every nook & cranny.
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Old 12-07-17, 03:49 PM
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Brown pizza sauce????
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Old 12-11-17, 09:55 AM
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I'm NOT going to get my hopes up yet but NASA is making a major announcement on Thursday relating to the possible discovery of alien life:

https://pjmedia.com/trending/nasa-re...le-alien-life/

NASA has announced a press conference for Thursday and is expected to confirm a major discovery about life beyond earth.

The announcement will be made by the team of scientists who have been studying the several thousand planets discovered by the Kepler space telescope. Kepler is the most successful planet-hunting probe in history, having identified more than 2500 planets with another 2000 candidates that still need to be studied.

Kepler has found several planets orbiting their star in the so-called "Goldilocks Zone," where it is warm enough for liquid water to flow. The announcement may be related to one of those planets.



I would recommend you hold off building an alien proof bunker in the back yard until after the announcement as NASA does tend to blow things out of proportion once in a while.
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Old 12-12-17, 10:04 AM
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I'm NOT going to get my hopes up yet but NASA is making a major announcement on Thursday relating to the possible discovery of alien life:

https://pjmedia.com/trending/nasa-re...le-alien-life/

NASA has announced a press conference for Thursday and is expected to confirm a major discovery about life beyond earth.

The announcement will be made by the team of scientists who have been studying the several thousand planets discovered by the Kepler space telescope. Kepler is the most successful planet-hunting probe in history, having identified more than 2500 planets with another 2000 candidates that still need to be studied.

Kepler has found several planets orbiting their star in the so-called "Goldilocks Zone," where it is warm enough for liquid water to flow. The announcement may be related to one of those planets.



I would recommend you hold off building an alien proof bunker in the back yard until after the announcement as NASA does tend to blow things out of proportion once in a while.
Now this guy may be slightly overreacting to the upcoming NASA announcement:

https://pjmedia.com/trending/former-...lien-invasion/

And this guy is a former UK defense minister!

This coming Thursday, NASA is planning to announce a major discovery in their search for extraterrestrial life. As the looming press conference gins up speculation, one former official in the UK's Ministry of Defense is warning that England is ill-prepared to defend itself against an alien invasion.

The Independent Business Times reports that "UK Government's former UFO investigator Nick Pope has warned the country to prepare for an alien war ... According to Pope, United Kingdom will be compelled to ally with the NATO and the US if a war happens with the aliens."

The report went on to say that "The former Ministry of Defense personal also admitted that the United Kingdom will fail miserably if a war breaks out with advanced aliens. He also added that the final resort of the country will be to embrace nuclear weapons which will harm both the aliens and humans."



I hate to break it to this guy but an alien invasion will probably consist of one of two scenarios:

* They will simply seed the earths atmosphere & water with deadly biological pathogens designed to take us and our food sources out. These would include pathogens that destroyed our crops. They would sit out beyond lunar orbit and simply wait for us to die off.

* They will slam an asteroid into earth obliterating us much like how the dinosaurs died out. They would then go back into hibernation (the assumption is that they crossed the immense stellar distance in hibernation) for 100 years and wake up to a nice clean planet for their use.
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Old 12-12-17, 07:11 PM
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^^^Remember the short film from the seventies, "Bambi meets Godzilla"? Kind of like that.
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