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Old 12-06-17, 11:50 PM
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Don Simpson Named Head Coach At Middletown

Middletown selects Princeton assistant to lead football program

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Old 12-06-17, 11:53 PM
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Middletown selects Princeton assistant to lead football program

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Donnie is a good friend of mine. Congrats to him! Personally I believe he should have got the CHCA job when Taylor left.

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Old 12-07-17, 07:15 AM
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[QUOTE=llthayes19;6937726]Donnie is a good friend of mine. Congrats to him! Personally I believe he should have got the CHCA job when Taylor left.

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Since you know him very well, please fill in some of us that do not know him. What are his past accomplishments as an assistant coach that led to him getting a head coaching job other than he probably didnít have alot of coaches pounding down the door to take on the mess that he is coming into at Middletown? Why didnít CHCA believe he was worthy to be their head coach when they already knew him? Good thing for Coach Simpson is the bar isnít set high and it wonít take many wins to improve from the previous coachís lack of success. Good Luck Coach Simpson
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Old 12-07-17, 08:28 AM
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Donnie is a good friend of mine. Congrats to him! Personally I believe he should have got the CHCA job when Taylor left.

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Since you know him very well, please fill in some of us that do not know him. What are his past accomplishments as an assistant coach that led to him getting a head coaching job other than he probably didnít have alot of coaches pounding down the door to take on the mess that he is coming into at Middletown? Why didnít CHCA believe he was worthy to be their head coach when they already knew him? Good thing for Coach Simpson is the bar isnít set high and it wonít take many wins to improve from the previous coachís lack of success. Good Luck Coach Simpson
Well defensively he loves 3-4, hopefully he's has the NG and speedy athletic LBs. When I first met him he was coaching at Norwood. Then he moved on to chca. Where he stayed for like six or seven years I believe. He was the defensive coordinator over there also. Had a pretty good run defensively. Those guys just couldn't get past Coldwater. Head coach Eric Taylor recommended him to become the head coach. But I guess they went a different direction and hired Eric Mueller. Who's also a good friend of mine. He had the head coaching experience. And I also put a few guys and two major d-1 schools in Columbus where he coached at. So I get the hire there. After that he went with Eric Taylor over to Deer Park and was also the defensive coordinator. Stayed one year and left to join Daniels at Princeton this past year. Where he was also the defensive coordinator. I know the expectations are not high at Middletown. But the City of Middletown has way too many athletes to a fallen off and two hard times like they have. I hope you can turn the page up there and get that program back to being at least respectable. Looks like they have a new gym in the new weight room. And are trying to continue to upgrade the athletic facilities. I wish him and Middletown the best of luck!

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Old 12-07-17, 11:23 AM
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Head coach Eric Taylor recommended him to become the head coach.
When the Dillon Panthers 2x Texas State Champion coach recommends, you hire!
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Old 12-07-17, 10:30 PM
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When the Dillon Panthers 2x Texas State Champion coach recommends, you hire!

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Old 12-07-17, 08:31 AM
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Middletown picked a coach with no experience running a program to be the head coach of what they believe to be a big time division 1 head coaching job? A coach with no experience is stepping into a mess. This is a big head scratching hire in my mind and really puts the administration on a thin line after hiring Engleka-mess. That said I want to wish Coach Simpson luck and may you have more than 3 years to figure it out. Good luck to you.
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Old 12-07-17, 08:45 AM
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Agree with History Teacher on being a head scratcher (and then some). You had multiple coaches with not only Head Coaching experience and success with playoff experience as well as at least two college coaches wanting the job. Thought they wanted to hit it out of the park with the hire but on paper these seems heh. Not only no HC experience but coaching mostly at lower levels. Wish the guy luck because the GMC and Middletown needs to have Middie Magic back in some form.
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Old 12-07-17, 11:11 AM
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Agree with History Teacher on being a head scratcher (and then some). You had multiple coaches with not only Head Coaching experience and success with playoff experience as well as at least two college coaches wanting the job. Thought they wanted to hit it out of the park with the hire but on paper these seems heh. Not only no HC experience but coaching mostly at lower levels. Wish the guy luck because the GMC and Middletown needs to have Middie Magic back in some form.
At the town meeting, parents stressed that they wanted a coach that "looks like their kids and can relate to their kids." No mention of the "best or most qualified coach." No mention of building a program, or competitive team.

I don't know him personally, but I hear he's a good assistant. The same people that told me that, said they weren't sure how he would do as a head coach. There is a lot that goes into being the face of the program, besides play calling. It's also a long way from CHCA. Not just from a D5 t o D1, but a whole different culture. At a CHCA you pretty much just coach. At a Middletown, you take on a lot more of a parent role. Picking kids up and taking them home. Some times making sure they eat. And making sure they are eligible!

This job will be open again in the next couple years because the people in charge let parents dictate who gets hired!
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Old 12-07-17, 11:43 AM
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At the town meeting, parents stressed that they wanted a coach that "looks like their kids and can relate to their kids." No mention of the "best or most qualified coach." No mention of building a program, or competitive team.

I don't know him personally, but I hear he's a good assistant. The same people that told me that, said they weren't sure how he would do as a head coach. There is a lot that goes into being the face of the program, besides play calling. It's also a long way from CHCA. Not just from a D5 t o D1, but a whole different culture. At a CHCA you pretty much just coach. At a Middletown, you take on a lot more of a parent role. Picking kids up and taking them home. Some times making sure they eat. And making sure they are eligible!

This job will be open again in the next couple years because the people in charge let parents dictate who gets hired!
I agree on all points!

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Old 12-07-17, 01:00 PM
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At the town meeting, parents stressed that they wanted a coach that "looks like their kids and can relate to their kids."
Its too bad that is the criteria, lord knows there are examples of coaches who may fit this but have done great things for the kids and the community.
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Old 12-07-17, 11:40 AM
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Middletown picked a coach with no experience running a program to be the head coach of what they believe to be a big time division 1 head coaching job? A coach with no experience is stepping into a mess. This is a big head scratching hire in my mind and really puts the administration on a thin line after hiring Engleka-mess. That said I want to wish Coach Simpson luck and may you have more than 3 years to figure it out. Good luck to you.
Not to be funny guys, but if I'm a head coach with any experience. I know that the Middletown isn't a good job. My question as a head coach would be, what does Middletown have to offer me? From the stories I've heard, most of the kids are more interested in the streets. Also that most of the best athletes can stay eligible and most of all dealing with town and adminstration that has a false since of with the football program really is. Middletown used to be a big-time steel town. They still have AK Steel but it's not the same as it used to be. Kind of the same way Youngstown Ohio went downhill. No one's moving into Middletown because of the job market or the textiles. And also it's becoming more known for heroin addicts then student-athletes going to college. Trust me if I'm a head coach I don't want that job. However my friend Donnie Simpson is from Warren Ohio. Basically from the hood and grew up in the situation that he is now facing as a head coach in Middletown. Personally I think Middletown is a "Dead man walking" type of job. But he still young and ambitious with a plan that he believes that will turn their program around. I wish him well!

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Old 12-07-17, 10:17 PM
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Not to be funny guys, but if I'm a head coach with any experience. I know that the Middletown isn't a good job. My question as a head coach would be, what does Middletown have to offer me? From the stories I've heard, most of the kids are more interested in the streets. Also that most of the best athletes can stay eligible and most of all dealing with town and adminstration that has a false since of with the football program really is. Middletown used to be a big-time steel town. They still have AK Steel but it's not the same as it used to be. Kind of the same way Youngstown Ohio went downhill. No one's moving into Middletown because of the job market or the textiles. And also it's becoming more known for heroin addicts then student-athletes going to college. Trust me if I'm a head coach I don't want that job. However my friend Donnie Simpson is from Warren Ohio. Basically from the hood and grew up in the situation that he is now facing as a head coach in Middletown. Personally I think Middletown is a "Dead man walking" type of job. But he still young and ambitious with a plan that he believes that will turn their program around. I wish him well!

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Hayes I agree with you. The administration has not have much luck in selecting a head football coach and I am hoping they decided to select a coach a 180 degrees from the priorities they were using in the past. I hope Coach Simpsonís
passion and his communication skills allow him to mold and motivate the young men to not only be successful on the field but also in life. GO MIDDIES
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Old 12-07-17, 11:29 PM
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Hayes I agree with you. The administration has not have much luck in selecting a head football coach and I am hoping they decided to select a coach a 180 degrees from the priorities they were using in the past. I hope Coach Simpsonís
passion and his communication skills allow him to mold and motivate the young men to not only be successful on the field but also in life. GO MIDDIES
Hope so too! Donnie is my 2nd friend to have the Middletown Job. Chris Well being the first. I don't think Wells lasted that long either.

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Old 12-07-17, 12:03 PM
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as a CHCA fan, I can let you know that Coach Simpson is A) first class and B) knows football and C) has put in his time to learn from some great coaches

I don't know much about Middletown program or the problems there, but Simpson will be a man of character to lead that program.
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as a CHCA fan, I can let you know that Coach Simpson is A) first class and B) knows football and C) has put in his time to learn from some great coaches

I don't know much about Middletown program or the problems there, but Simpson will be a man of character to lead that program.

Besides Taylor, who else has he worked for that is a great coach?

As for knowing football. I hear he's never coached an offense position. I would think a head coaching candidate would know all 3 phases of the game as well as have a proven record of organization, been involved in fundraising and supervising people.
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Besides Taylor, who else has he worked for that is a great coach?

As for knowing football. I hear he's never coached an offense position. I would think a head coaching candidate would know all 3 phases of the game as well as have a proven record of organization, been involved in fundraising and supervising people.
Marvin Lewis was never an offensive or special teams coordinator...just saying!

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Marvin Lewis was never an offensive or special teams coordinator...just saying!

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Not sure why I'm responding to this.

Exactly! And look how well he's done.

Lewis also had 20+ years as an assistant or DC. He was also the associate head coach at Washington. He also worked for Bill Cowher, Billick and Spurrier. All very successful head coaches. SUPER BOWL or NATIONAL CHAMPION coaches!

CHCA the best program Simpson been at and they never made it out the region! And that includes having an athlete recruited in, who now play for Alabama, like Prince!

You clownin cus!
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Not sure why I'm responding to this.

Exactly! And look how well he's done.

Lewis also had 20+ years as an assistant or DC. He was also the associate head coach at Washington. He also worked for Bill Cowher, Billick and Spurrier. All very successful head coaches. SUPER BOWL or NATIONAL CHAMPION coaches!

CHCA the best program Simpson been at and they never made it out the region! And that includes having an athlete recruited in, who now play for Alabama, like Prince!

You clownin cus!
I guess my point was for a guy who's never coached High oh, coached the offensive side of the ball side of the ball and starting his career at Idaho state. And now holds one of the only 32 positions in the NFL apparently you don't need to have OC experience get a head coach job. And as far as the Prince kids he would have been a commodity on measurables alone even at Lockland High School.

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Not sure why I'm responding to this.

Exactly! And look how well he's done.

Lewis also had 20+ years as an assistant or DC. He was also the associate head coach at Washington. He also worked for Bill Cowher, Billick and Spurrier. All very successful head coaches. SUPER BOWL or NATIONAL CHAMPION coaches!

CHCA the best program Simpson been at and they never made it out the region! And that includes having an athlete recruited in, who now play for Alabama, like Prince!

You clownin cus!
other than 2014...when CHCA won the region
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"you clowin cus" LOL
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Old 12-07-17, 11:27 PM
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Give him a chance. The difference between Div 5 and Div 1, is the roster size and kids are playing both ways in 5 and are dedicated mostly in 1. X's and O's are the same. He was successful at CHCA and the kids learned football. If he can do the same thing as a Middie, he will be successful also. Give him time and an OC and he can help the team and community believe in themselves again. He is a motivator, and his kids loved playing for him. Time will tell.
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I've coached with him and he is a great coach in my opinion
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First, there are a lot of head football coaches that have only coached one side of the ball as an assistant before they are hired as head coaches, that doesn't mean you don't know anything about the other side of the ball. A good defensive or offensive coordinator spends as much time watching and breaking down offenses or defenses as they do coaching offense or defense. I don't think the fact Simpson doesn't have much experience on the offensive side of the ball is a problem in any way.

The real question is how much time does he have to right the ship. I personally believe it is going to take several years, probably 5 or 6 to get Middletown back to a point where they can be competitive again and even then, who knows? I think Chad Murphy is a good football coach and he is having a hard time putting it together at Hamilton, a bigger school, but with similar issues as Middletown. Can the Middletown support system be patient enough to allow for a change? I like the idea of bringing in a first time head coach, a guy with something to prove, and truthfully, I don't think it hurts that "he looks like" the kids.
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The real question is how much time does he have to right the ship. I personally believe it is going to take several years, probably 5 or 6 to get Middletown back to a point where they can be competitive again and even then, who knows? I think Chad Murphy is a good football coach and he is having a hard time putting it together at Hamilton, a bigger school, but with similar issues as Middletown. Can the Middletown support system be patient enough to allow for a change? I like the idea of bringing in a first time head coach, a guy with something to prove, and truthfully, I don't think it hurts that "he looks like" the kids.
In a simple answer, No.
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First, there are a lot of head football coaches that have only coached one side of the ball as an assistant before they are hired as head coaches, that doesn't mean you don't know anything about the other side of the ball. A good defensive or offensive coordinator spends as much time watching and breaking down offenses or defenses as they do coaching offense or defense. I don't think the fact Simpson doesn't have much experience on the offensive side of the ball is a problem in any way.

The real question is how much time does he have to right the ship. I personally believe it is going to take several years, probably 5 or 6 to get Middletown back to a point where they can be competitive again and even then, who knows? I think Chad Murphy is a good football coach and he is having a hard time putting it together at Hamilton, a bigger school, but with similar issues as Middletown. Can the Middletown support system be patient enough to allow for a change? I like the idea of bringing in a first time head coach, a guy with something to prove, and truthfully, I don't think it hurts that "he looks like" the kids.
And we are ALL entitled to our opinion. But I do disagree with not hiring the most "qualified" man for the job.
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And we are ALL entitled to our opinion. But I do disagree with not hiring the most "qualified" man for the job.
Who was the most qualified man? Did he interview and get skipped over? Just a question because I don't know the process that Middletown chose to go through.

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Who was the most qualified man? Did he interview and get skipped over? Just a question because I don't know the process that Middletown chose to go through.

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Im saying it shouldn't matter what a candidate look like. Go with the guy that have the best resume, competent and professional in his interview and has a plan how he going to build.

I do know there were some established coaches "inquire" not sure if they officially applied. These are guys that have staffs that they trust coming with them. Finding quality assistants is not easy.
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And we are ALL entitled to our opinion. But I do disagree with not hiring the most "qualified" man for the job.
I didn't say I didn't think he was the most qualified, I just said I thought the idea of an African-American coach at Middletown might work.

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I didn't say I didn't think he was the most qualified, I just said I thought the idea of an African-American coach at Middletown might work.

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Uh the fact of the matter is, Middletown cant recruit, ( see Colerain, All the GCL south schools,Trotwood Madison, and Clinton Massie.) Uh Vince Lombardi couldn't win at Middletown. Uh numbers and the inability to recruit out of district kids, have doomed the Middies in the GMC. Uh basketball one or two kids can turn a program around, in football you need 5 or 6 kids to do the same thing.
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