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Old 01-10-18, 07:49 PM
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Tom Cole and Brad Woznicki did a great job commenting on the game. Tom Cole was dead on about his assessment of the game CS played team ball and MVCDS has to teach Jackson how to play team ball and share. Jett and Woodley can play.

The difference between the two schools is Coach K holds his players accountable in a constructive way, Burton, Holifield, Little all welcome it from him. MV holds no one accountable for shots, turnovers bad passes. The language I heard from the MV coaches toward players is unacceptable in high school.
I agree. People like to give Tom Cole a hard time, but I like a lot of what he has to say. He was spot on here.
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Old 01-10-18, 07:55 PM
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Watched Ottawa Hills drop a close one at TC over the weekend. I know they are long time rivals so there isn't a lot of surprises between the coaches, but the discipline and preparation on both sides was evident.

I thought I heard OH was going to a tuition model for out of district kids, I wonder if that will eventually "attract" some additional talent. Unless they have some talent in the pipeline, they won't challenge the top for awhile as far as I can tell.
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Old 01-10-18, 07:58 PM
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To beat a box and one you either go 1-3-1 with cuts or run a motion offense.
Diamond inbounds pressure can be soft just to disrupts or to trap aggressively on first pass.
And when you see a team that doesn't do anything to combat a box and one and then repeatedly pressures the inbounds on a diamond press, leaving the wing defender to try to trap by himself, you know that the coaching is suspect!!

Mistakes can happen, but repeated mistakes speak to poor preparation.

Sad!
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Old 01-10-18, 08:01 PM
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Go on break and all hell breaks loose.

In my opinion Holified is the best guard in the TAAC not even close. The kids is patience unflappable and efficient. Does not take bad shots and can rebound and defend.
Agreed. Poise and maturity way beyond his years. Been that way since I first saw him play as a 5th or 6th grader. You never know when he will stop growing, but he is a real talent.
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Old 01-10-18, 08:05 PM
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It has to be coaching for teams to come out and play so drastically different. Just like TC and OH games CS doubled and pressured Jackson and MV had no answer other than force ball to Jackson who in turn would force shot instead of creating for others consistently
The lack of preparation is galling.
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Old 01-10-18, 08:28 PM
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Watched Ottawa Hills drop a close one at TC over the weekend. I know they are long time rivals so there isn't a lot of surprises between the coaches, but the discipline and preparation on both sides was evident.

I thought I heard OH was going to a tuition model for out of district kids, I wonder if that will eventually "attract" some additional talent. Unless they have some talent in the pipeline, they won't challenge the top for awhile as far as I can tell.
No Schollies. At least that's what they said.
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Old 01-13-18, 09:23 PM
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Toledo Area Athletic Conference
League Overall
Cardinal Stritch 6-0 11-1
Toledo Christian 6-1 10-1
Maumee Valley 4-2 6-3
Ottawa Hills 2-3 5-4
Gibsonburg 1-3 2-6
Emmanuel Christian 1-4 4-5
Danbury 1-4 3-5
Northwood 1-5 1-9

SCORING LEADERS
G PTS AVG
Addison Weaver, Gibsonburg 8 139 17.4
Delano Smith, Toledo Christian 11 188 17.1
Zeb Jackson, Maumee Valley 9 153 17.0
Jaiden Woodley, Maumee Valley 7 107 15.3
Eliot Cummings, Ottawa Hills 9 137 15.2
Jordan Burton, Cardinal Stritch 12 182 15.2
Demond Marks, Northwood 10 147 14.7
Joey Holifield, Cardinal Stritch 12 176 14.7
Landon McGill, Toledo Christian 11 130 11.8
James Silk, Ottawa Hills 9 101 11.2
Ian Kuzma, Danbury 8 86 10.8
Owen Gast, Toledo Christian 11 116 10.5
Little Anderson, Cardinal Stritch 12 125 10.4
Donte Dixon, Northwood 10 98 9.8
Caden Williams, Emmanuel Christian 9 87 9.7
Jailon Walker, Emmanuel Christian 9 86 9.6
Tommy Coil, Ottawa Hills 9 86 9.6
Justin Muray, Danbury 8 73 9.1
Gunnar Parmelee, Emmanuel Christian 7 63 9.0

REBOUNDING LEADERS
G RBS AVG
Eliot Cummings, Ottawa Hills 9 91 10.1
Jaiden Woodley, Maumee Valley 7 66 9.4
Donte Dixon, Northwood 10 81 8.1
Brennan Morris, Emmanuel Christian 9 72 8.0
Marcus Durden, Toledo Christian 11 88 8.0
Tommy Coil, Ottawa Hills 9 64 7.1
Ian Kuzma, Danbury 8 54 6.8
Little Anderson, Cardinal Stritch 12 82 6.8
Sam Crane, Maumee Valley 9 60 6.7
Addison Weaver, Gibsonburg 8 52 6.5
Nate Kissell, Gibsonburg 8 52 6.5
A.J. Johnson, Maumee Valley 9 55 6.1
Brad Pruitt, Danbury 8 48 6.0
Landon McGill, Toledo Christian 11 59 5.4
Joey Holifield, Cardinal Stritch 12 63 5.3
Owen Gast, Toledo Christian 11 56 5.1
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Old 01-15-18, 06:35 AM
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So the lawsuits are flying at MVCD, coaches on parents, has anybody ever seen such a disaster in their life? All over a 3rd or 4th place team.
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Old 01-15-18, 10:31 AM
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"anybody ever seen such a disaster"

you want a list or was that rhetorical? When did this become Jerry Springer? I don't think I've seen a program yet that could survive too much inspection. Sleeping dogs and all... MVCD gets one good basketball player and all the other recruiters go into panic mode, lol. Fear of the Country Days?
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Old 01-15-18, 10:43 AM
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Lawsuits? Do you have a link?

Cursory google search yielded nothing...
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Old 01-15-18, 02:15 PM
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"anybody ever seen such a disaster"

you want a list or was that rhetorical? When did this become Jerry Springer? I don't think I've seen a program yet that could survive too much inspection. Sleeping dogs and all... MVCD gets one good basketball player and all the other recruiters go into panic mode, lol. Fear of the Country Days?
I would love a list of athletic directors/head basketball coaches bringing lawsuits against parents of players. Has nothing to do with recruiters going into panic mode, has everything to do with a program imploding from the inside/out. Listen to the interview last week on the radio of two of the parents and you'll understand this has nothing to do with anything outside of the program.
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Old 01-15-18, 04:16 PM
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Don't know anything about lawsuits but the interview referenced in the previous post can be accessed at wspd.iheart.com.
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Old 01-15-18, 05:50 PM
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I would love a list of athletic directors/head basketball coaches bringing lawsuits against parents of players.
Care to narrow it down to day and hour,

You said "disasters." Care for a list. I'm sure we can find room on it for Central Catholic.

You're promoting petty crap from recruiting losers. Grow the f up. The "program" isn't going to implode. It's not and never been a "player." It's high school discussion one would presume from mostly old people, except when the grade schoolers get involved on message boards. Country Day will move on. Their academics will still tear Central Catholic, Cardinal Stritch and most others a new one. That's its job. Not b-ball.

Didn't someone mention on this thread they wanted to talk about basketball? I'm still of the position, the area b-ball doesn't get better when all the marginal ex-jocks anonymously try to disparage each other so that the next great recruit not in need of an education, comes their way.

Grow the f up. Have I said that yet?

Call when there's been a crime committed. Then I'll maybe see you have a point. For now, it's marginal people needing click bait.
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Old 01-15-18, 06:20 PM
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Care to narrow it down to day and hour,

You said "disasters." Care for a list. I'm sure we can find room on it for Central Catholic.

You're promoting petty crap from recruiting losers. Grow the f up. The "program" isn't going to implode. It's not and never been a "player." It's high school discussion one would presume from mostly old people, except when the grade schoolers get involved on message boards. Country Day will move on. Their academics will still tear Central Catholic, Cardinal Stritch and most others a new one. That's its job. Not b-ball.

Didn't someone mention on this thread they wanted to talk about basketball? I'm still of the position, the area b-ball doesn't get better when all the marginal ex-jocks anonymously try to disparage each other so that the next great recruit not in need of an education, comes their way.

Grow the f up. Have I said that yet?

Call when there's been a crime committed. Then I'll maybe see you have a point. For now, it's marginal people needing click bait.
I’ll make the day and time easy for ya, last Friday.

Please include Central Catholic on any list, let’s hear a few.
I think most intelligent reasonable people would consider a coach filing a lawsuit against players parents as a disaster, especially after the parents accused coaches of showing home made porn.

Grow the f up? You always got the biggest tough guy keyboard muscles on here, at least your good at something. I can’t wait till spring, so you can start yelling at the kids to stay off your lawn.

Look everybody east is really telling me off from behind his keyboard. Real tough guy stuff.

If WSPD gives 26 minutes to the topic, I’m guessing something is up and then 2 days later a lawsuit, I’m sure it just click bait
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Old 01-15-18, 08:07 PM
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Porn? Is this the Genoa/Woodmore conversation?
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Old 01-15-18, 09:36 PM
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Look everybody east is really telling me off from behind his keyboard. Real tough guy stuff.
So, you're making these disparaging remarks about MVCD (and over the term just about any other program that might challenge CC) face-to-face to whom, "tough guy?"

I'm making the same point to you that I've made to everyone, the crap you babies throw out on message boards to try and damage other programs, does not help make the area (or your school) stronger and the pm function is right there. You have the same invite as anyone to see if I'm a "tough guy." Use it. You'll see no difference in my approach on the keyboard or face-to-face. Bring your tough guy persona and whatever else you care to.

Your revisionist approach aside: you said "disasters." I responded ANY school had disasters so lets stick to your original accusation from before you tucked tail and revised after the challenge.

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Please include Central Catholic on any list, let’s hear a few.
Central Catholic Special Edition.
http://www.toledoblade.com/Religion/...uncovered.html

http://www.toledoblade.com/Education...tificates.html

Oh but I'm sure they learned their lesson. Oops

http://www.13abc.com/content/news/Fo...416837423.html

Should we make a list of athletes arrested, point out how lily-white the first 70-80years of that HOF board is, how they've sat back while the neighborhood around them deteriorates or bring up the voucher thing again?

As I said:is anything positive accomplished with this? Does the area get stronger while you flex your "keyboard" muscles with kids? With me? Grow the f up. pm function, need help finding it?
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Old 01-15-18, 09:44 PM
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and while you're at it, get off my lawn.
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Old 01-16-18, 04:02 PM
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Porn? Is this the Genoa/Woodmore conversation?
Man, you can't just drop a line like that and bail. I need more information...
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Old 01-16-18, 04:09 PM
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I listened to the interview and read Lincoln D Kynard's Facebook page.

All I can say is, anyone interested should do both and come to your own conclusions. As far as I can tell, Kynard is an alumni of the school, but now a very unhappy parent. I'm not a friend of his on Facebook and have never met the guy so I can't comment on him personally.
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Old 01-16-18, 05:37 PM
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so this is the new gossipy old ladies club, how it's done in the modern world? I can't imagine why anyone SHOULD be "interested" let alone talk about it "anonymously" on a message board and try and make anyone belief they have no agenda in doing so.

This is someone's job, real people. If you're not willing to put your name out there for a little negative back-stab talk-about, then how is what is going on here anywhere near the exit to the high road? To believe some of you promote yourselves as coming form and representing "Christian" schools, boggles. If someone has to use Facebook to badger someone, they absolutely do not fall into the "tough guy" category. That's a person doing without thinking or simply lacking ethics. To think people are here to support that. smh.

If there's a crime, let it be charged. Then it's public and maybe then it is gossip fodder but now, all I see are agendas. Agenda to promote one's school and I suspect one's business/media. Smells real bad.

There are some real talents and potentials we could be talking about. Positive things.

Any hope?
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Old 01-16-18, 07:59 PM
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I haven't been in a church in more than 30 years, not sure who the Christians are. My business has nothing to do with any of this, and anonymity is irrelevant. I was curious, knew nothing, did a little research in the public sphere and figured I would share. If you don't care, don't look.

I figured someone here would know if the dad is more Lavar Ball or more Doc Rivers(not sure if he is a good father figure, but hopefully you get the comparison). I don't know any of the participants in the fiasco, but like it or not schools suing parents is news.

Like I said, if you don't care, don't look.
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Old 01-17-18, 08:41 AM
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Back to basketball on the "hardwood court". Toledo Christian @ Cardinal Stritch this Friday.

Two state ranked teams (CS #7 in D3, TC #6 in D4) with the league title on the line.

1st round went to Stritch, but I would expect TC to make some adjustments and come out better prepared than the 1st game.

Better get your tickets early. The game will be sold out. Will also be live on BCSN2.

Should be a good one.
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Old 01-17-18, 08:56 AM
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I will be watching TC @ CS live on BCSN2.

Made the journey over to OH last night to see them play Gibsonburg. OH is disciplined and well coached, but the dropoff from the top 3 to the rest of the conference is very apparent.

OH easily outpaced them, but neither team can match the top conference teams in terms of firepower.
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Old 01-17-18, 09:50 AM
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Fun nugget from the Lake vs Stritch game last night. All 15 players on the Stritch bench scored. Yeah, the second half was basically a jv game but I still don't think that happens very often.

Lake had 3-4 nice players but it surprised me that they only dress nine kids varsity. That's an awful short bench if you have a kid or two in foul trouble.
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Old 01-18-18, 05:17 AM
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Like I said, if you don't care, don't look.
If you throw your opinion out here, it's fair game, anonymous or otherwise. It's "in the public sphere." What about that is hard to understand? Don't like the opinion on your opinion, don't look.
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Old 01-18-18, 10:11 AM
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Fun nugget from the Lake vs Stritch game last night. All 15 players on the Stritch bench scored. Yeah, the second half was basically a jv game but I still don't think that happens very often.

Lake had 3-4 nice players but it surprised me that they only dress nine kids varsity. That's an awful short bench if you have a kid or two in foul trouble.
I do not believe even Stritch thought they would be this deep at this point. With that said they really need to up their out of conference schedule. Playing Lake does them nothing aside from getting everyone some minutes. CS has the talent to play in the TRAC yet played one TRAC team, 4th/5th best in league, and lost by 15. If the Cardinals want to win a state title, which they are capable of, they need to face off against teams that will be physical and will not back down due to intimidation.

No offense to TC and the rest of the TAAC but hyping the CS/TC game as a marquee match up is misleading. Stritch should beat TC by 10 on an off night. 20 on a good night. They are that much better than the rest of the league.
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Old 01-18-18, 11:50 AM
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I do not believe even Stritch thought they would be this deep at this point. With that said they really need to up their out of conference schedule. Playing Lake does them nothing aside from getting everyone some minutes. CS has the talent to play in the TRAC yet played one TRAC team, 4th/5th best in league, and lost by 15. If the Cardinals want to win a state title, which they are capable of, they need to face off against teams that will be physical and will not back down due to intimidation.

No offense to TC and the rest of the TAAC but hyping the CS/TC game as a marquee match up is misleading. Stritch should beat TC by 10 on an off night. 20 on a good night. They are that much better than the rest of the league.
^^True^^

But remember, Stritch was barely above .500 just the year before last and minus the Austin Adams year they have not been real good in a long time. The Evergreens, Swantons and Lakes of the world were a dramatic step up in competition from the lower levels of the TAAC. My guess is they had some contracts and agreements that they would need to phase out to dramatically upgrade the schedule and that takes some time. That being said, Mansfield st. Peter last year, CCA and the Southview tournament this year were pretty big steps up. It will be interesting to see what gets added next year. Id like to see some NLL teams added myself.
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Old 01-18-18, 03:17 PM
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Which teams would generally be considered "in the way" in that division? Similar is what you'd want to schedule, maybe a division up or something?

The advantage of b-ball over football. It's not about harbins and wins. Worth risking a loss to get teams competitive for play-offs. Why not SJJ? I can't see them objecting. Might be a one off opportunity if CS can't keep up the recruiting, attracting, whatever anyone wants to call it.
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Old 01-18-18, 03:18 PM
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If the Cardinals want to win a state title, which they are capable of, they need to face off against teams that will be physical and will not back down due to intimidation.
I agree with this for any team.

What may work all year, because of who you play, can give you a false sense of security. However, If you are fighting and clawing to compete in games you look at ways to improve your scheme, rotation and or development of skill/players.

If you are drilling everyone there is less incentive to innovate and improve your approach.

Most growth is made through adversity and fighting to get to the top. That holds true for players as well. Many kids are the same player at 18 years old as they were when they were 15, because they were not pushed for playing time. So they just cruise along doing just enough.
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Which teams would generally be considered "in the way" in that division? Similar is what you'd want to schedule, maybe a division up or something?
Programs Stritch should look to schedule - D3 teams Archbold, Ottawa Glandorf, Genoa, Upper Sandusky, Lima CC, Liberty Benton (most years), Vermillion

D2 Wauseon, Defiance (most years), Elida, Lima Shawnee

I'm sure there are others that I missed. A good team's seeding will not get hurt by losing a few games. For example Archbold will be a 1 or 2 seed with losses to Ottawa Glandorf and Wauseon and have a 2nd game with Wauseon coming up.

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