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Old 04-09-18, 08:36 PM
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Raymo......a poster with rationale and decency

Not many of them around. Raymo, thank you for a suggestion to shutdown a thread that attempted to bring up 8 year old bad memories, for a young female victim and memories of a community torn apart by the entire incident. It’s over with, a long ago and bitter history. Unfortunately it is happening all over the US. Again, thank you Raymo, for being a voice of reason and decency.
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Old 04-09-18, 08:39 PM
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No actually this doesn’t happen all over the US. Stop trying to rationalize what happened. Makes you look like a complete scumbag
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Old 04-09-18, 09:04 PM
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Raymo's great and he's right (again) - if you can't beat Steuby on the field all that's left is to bring up past problems. The courts have spoken and what's done is done. The current crop of players have nothing to do with those who were convicted. It's like holding Sequan Barkley (sp?) for Sandusky's crimes at PSU.
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It ain't over for everyone. Some will carry it forever.

And as long as some accept it as "kids being kids" it will happen again.

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Old 04-10-18, 07:39 AM
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Raymo's great and he's right (again) - if you can't beat Steuby on the field all that's left is to bring up past problems. The courts have spoken and what's done is done. The current crop of players have nothing to do with those who were convicted. It's like holding Sequan Barkley (sp?) for Sandusky's crimes at PSU.
This might be the most hypocritical post you have ever made. Nice!!
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Old 04-10-18, 08:01 AM
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Raymo's great and he's right (again) - if you can't beat Steuby on the field all that's left is to bring up past problems. The courts have spoken and what's done is done. The current crop of players have nothing to do with those who were convicted. It's like holding Sequan Barkley (sp?) for Sandusky's crimes at PSU.
BTW, did you watch the Joe Paterno HBO movie? I have yet to see it.


Steubenville is one thing with a bunch of players/teens being stupid, but Penn State and Baylor are the definitions of “lack of institutional control.” This is where the coaches, and admins were more concerned about winning games.
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Old 04-10-18, 08:07 AM
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Raymo's great and he's right (again) - if you can't beat Steuby on the field all that's left is to bring up past problems. The courts have spoken and what's done is done. The current crop of players have nothing to do with those who were convicted. It's like holding Sequan Barkley (sp?) for Sandusky's crimes at PSU.
Wrong. It would be like holding PSU responsible if Paterno was still the coach. They both covered for rapists.
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Old 04-10-18, 09:05 AM
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BTW, did you watch the Joe Paterno HBO movie? I have yet to see it.


Steubenville is one thing with a bunch of players/teens being stupid, but Penn State and Baylor are the definitions of “lack of institutional control.” This is where the coaches, and admins were more concerned about winning games.
I saw it Saturday night. It's nothing special.
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I didn't think anyone down there did the inter net.

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Old 04-10-18, 09:11 AM
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Old 04-10-18, 02:10 PM
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Old 04-10-18, 03:30 PM
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BTW, did you watch the Joe Paterno HBO movie? I have yet to see it.


Steubenville is one thing with a bunch of players/teens being stupid, but Penn State and Baylor are the definitions of “lack of institutional control.” This is where the coaches, and admins were more concerned about winning games.
Referring to the Steubenville incident as "a bunch of players/teens being stupid" is like saying Kate Upton has a pleasant figure.
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Old 04-10-18, 07:44 PM
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Again - what responsibility do the 2018 Big Red high school players have with the events from years before? Like they shouldn't do their best to pay pentance for those who have gone before? Rubbish
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Old 04-11-18, 05:11 PM
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I didn't think anyone down there did the inter net.

weird
Coming from Youngstown, Steubenville on Steroids, seems to me you’re taking a shot at yourself or you at least have the ability to use self deprecating humor.
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Old 04-11-18, 05:16 PM
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Again - what responsibility do the 2018 Big Red high school players have with the events from years before? Like they shouldn't do their best to pay pentance for those who have gone before? Rubbish
Players? No.

Sackotch...yes.
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Old 04-11-18, 05:41 PM
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Again - what responsibility do the 2018 Big Red high school players have with the events from years before? Like they shouldn't do their best to pay pentance for those who have gone before? Rubbish
If Reno got fired I'd agree with you.
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Old 04-13-18, 05:20 PM
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So this year's players bear the responsibility of what you think the coach did?

That's misplaced anger at best, idiocy at worst.

May others be so forgiving of your next sin.
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Old 04-13-18, 05:57 PM
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So this year's players bear the responsibility of what you think the coach did?

That's misplaced anger at best, idiocy at worst.

May others be so forgiving of your next sin.
Throw in all the personal attacks you want. Reno covered for rapists. He needs to be fired. I don't think this year's players need to be punished. Just fire the sleeve ball and move on.
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Old 04-13-18, 07:33 PM
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Throw in all the personal attacks you want. Reno covered for rapists. He needs to be fired. I don't think this year's players need to be punished. Just fire the sleeve ball and move on.
You are dead wrong. If he was covering for the perpetrators, he would not have removed them from the team the day after. Yes, they were both removed from the team before they were even charged with a crime. Stop perpetuating rumors, lies and misinformation.

BTW......is “sleeveball” some kind of Byesville slang.
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Old 04-13-18, 09:52 PM
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C&B, why did you even open this thread!?! I understand you wanted to thank Raymo. But you HAD to know it was going to turn in to another dumpster fire.
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Old 04-14-18, 05:54 AM
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You are dead wrong. If he was covering for the perpetrators, he would not have removed them from the team the day after. Yes, they were both removed from the team before they were even charged with a crime. Stop perpetuating rumors, lies and misinformation.

BTW......is “sleeveball” some kind of Byesville slang.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/deadspi...-455800918/amp

This is the article that started a firestorm on here.
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Old 04-14-18, 07:06 AM
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C&B, why did you even open this thread!?! I understand you wanted to thank Raymo. But you HAD to know it was going to turn in to another dumpster fire.
Of course he did. I assume that was a rhetorical question.
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Old 04-14-18, 08:05 AM
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You are dead wrong. If he was covering for the perpetrators, he would not have removed them from the team the day after. Yes, they were both removed from the team before they were even charged with a crime. Stop perpetuating rumors, lies and misinformation.

BTW......is “sleeveball” some kind of Byesville slang.
You can't seriously be this blind.
Where in the world is Byesville?
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Old 04-14-18, 07:19 PM
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May others be so forgiving of your next sin.

Casting judgment on theoretical sins, while rationalizing actual crimes. #priceless
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Old 04-14-18, 07:21 PM
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C&B, why did you even open this thread!?! I understand you wanted to thank Raymo. But you HAD to know it was going to turn in to another dumpster fire.
You know Irish, you’re right, I should have known better. I sincerely wanted to thank Raymo for his post. But again, anything Steubenville gets slammed on this forum. And I knew that. Guess I should just rollover and keep my mouth shut. Watch the response that brings!
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Old 04-14-18, 08:06 PM
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/deadspi...-455800918/amp

This is the article that started a firestorm on here.
My favorite part is Reno threatening a female reporter from the New York Times-

"'You made me mad now,' he said, throwing in several expletives as he walked from the high school to his car.

Nearly nose to nose with a reporter, he growled: 'You’re going to get yours. And if you don’t get yours, somebody close to you will.'”

When the apologists can explain to me how this is acceptable behavior, I'll give Reno a pass. Also, while they're at it, they can explain to me what other coach could come away from that with his job. The current kids do not deserve to be punished for the sins of players and coaches at the center of that mess, but Reno can burn in hell.
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Old 04-14-18, 09:14 PM
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Reno covered for rapists.
So did the Catholic church. Should we assume you root against all Catholic schools as well? Or just the Church in general?

The Yappi court has found Reno guilty yet the people whose opinions actually matter did not

I hope the current team is able to enjoy playing for their teammates and school and block out the things that happened when they were fifth graders.
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Old 04-14-18, 09:23 PM
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You can't seriously be this blind.
Where in the world is Byesville?
I think what he meant is nobody has a clue what a sleeveball is, now, if you meant sleazeball, and spelled it correctly, people might get your meaning.

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Old 04-14-18, 11:21 PM
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So did the Catholic church. Should we assume you root against all Catholic schools as well? Or just the Church in general?

The Yappi court has found Reno guilty yet the people whose opinions actually matter did not

I hope the current team is able to enjoy playing for their teammates and school and block out the things that happened when they were fifth graders.
This is not even remotely close to being a good comparison. You people disgust me.
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Old 04-15-18, 04:52 AM
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i am done. I’ll never post another word on this site again. Most of you have nothing to offer except tired old bull. Good riddance
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