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Old 04-16-18, 12:10 PM
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Why is Crusaders even defending this?
No idea. No mention of Cedar Point, plenty of mention of Disney. Pretty clear they thought it would be like Disney.
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Old 04-16-18, 12:11 PM
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No idea. No mention of Cedar Point, plenty of mention of Disney. Pretty clear they thought it would be like Disney.
You'd have to be an idiot to think they believe they're building something equivalent to Disney World.
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Old 04-16-18, 12:18 PM
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Lol crusaders.
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Old 04-16-18, 12:18 PM
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There are plenty of things to complain about, like why they hired the same project managers who failed to pay contractors for North Canton's Hoover factory project. Or why the project is failing to integrate itself with the surrounding area. Or the use of public money and tax breaks. Plenty of stuff. What's being talked about here is just stupid.
Yet you're vehemently defending the Disney comments for some reason??? It's not like you're the one who made the original assertion. Seems like a waste of time to defend someone else's stupid comments.
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Old 04-16-18, 12:19 PM
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You'd have to be an idiot to think they believe they're building something equivalent to Disney World.
Just going based off the quotes of those involved who stupidly believe this will have a Disney like impact. Still waiting for you to reference someone involved mentioning Cedar Point.
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Old 04-16-18, 12:21 PM
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It’s funny enough to think it would have an impact similar to Ceder or Hershey Park.
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Old 04-16-18, 12:24 PM
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Yet you're vehemently defending the Disney comments for some reason??? It's not like you're the one who made the original assertion. Seems like a waste of time to defend someone else's stupid comments.
I'm not defending the comments about Disney. I personally would not use that term or encourage people to use it because it's just not true. I'm calling out the stupidity of thinking they mean Disney World in a literal sense. They're clearly not building anything remotely close to that and continually harping on it is ridiculous.

What it comes down to is "it's going to be the Hershey Park of football" doesn't sell quite as well.
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Old 04-16-18, 12:25 PM
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Right, even Cedar Point would be an unrealistic benchmark.
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Old 04-16-18, 12:26 PM
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I'm not defending the comments about Disney, I'm calling out the stupidity of thinking they mean Disney World in a literal sense. They're clearly not building anything remotely close to that and continually harping on it is ridiculous.

What it comes down to is "it's going to be the Hershey Park of football" doesn't sell quite as well.
That's fine, but they're opening themselves up to criticism by making the comments. That's exactly what's happened here.
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Old 04-16-18, 12:29 PM
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Suddenly it’s dumb to criticize developers for overhyping their project. Lol, okay crusaders.
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Old 04-16-18, 12:30 PM
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Have to assume crusaders has some family member involved in building this disaster.
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Old 04-16-18, 12:35 PM
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Just going based off the quotes of those involved who stupidly believe this will have a Disney like impact. Still waiting for you to reference someone involved mentioning Cedar Point.
The actual estimates for the project included a $15b economic benefit for Canton over 25 years, a big increase in attendance, and a few thousand jobs. That's significant for a city like Canton. It's "Disney" in a relative sense if you really want to stretch it, but it is clearly not "we're actually building a Disney World-esque resort".
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Old 04-16-18, 12:38 PM
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That's fine, but they're opening themselves up to criticism by making the comments. That's exactly what's happened here.
This is the first place I've seen people taking their Disney comments literally. I think it's pretty clear to most people who aren't either idiots or just wanting to make fun of the project that the HOF Village is not like Disney.
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Old 04-16-18, 12:42 PM
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I'm calling out the stupidity of thinking they mean Disney World in a literal sense.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/g00/sp...806-story.html

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Ray Hexamer, president of the nonprofit Stark Development Board, thinks the village can have the same kind of impact here as Disney World had on Florida.
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Old 04-16-18, 12:50 PM
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This is the first place I've seen people taking their Disney comments literally. I think it's pretty clear to most people who aren't either idiots or just wanting to make fun of the project that the HOF Village is not like Disney.
TBH I'm not even sure everyone is taking the comments literally.
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Old 04-16-18, 12:54 PM
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The actual estimates for the project included a $15b economic benefit for Canton over 25 years, a big increase in attendance, and a few thousand jobs. That's significant for a city like Canton. It's "Disney" in a relative sense if you really want to stretch it, but it is clearly not "we're actually building a Disney World-esque resort".
It must be painful to have absolutely no capacity to think beyond face value.
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Old 04-16-18, 12:57 PM
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Old 04-16-18, 01:01 PM
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I think crusaders needs to take over the pr for this project.
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Old 04-16-18, 01:11 PM
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Seriously? a 143-bed assisted living facility? Who the F do they think is going to move to this Canton, OH living facility when they're old?
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Old 04-16-18, 01:14 PM
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TBH I'm not even sure everyone is taking the comments literally.
Yeah no one is. Complete strawman from Crusaders. What people are making fun of is the "Disney-esque" comments from those actually involved. Crusaders got sore about it, claimed no one said that, Neo proves him wrong, and 30 posts later here we are.
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Old 04-16-18, 01:25 PM
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Spot on ronnie. Really weak attempt at a strawman from Crusaders.
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Old 04-16-18, 01:37 PM
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Seriously? a 143-bed assisted living facility? Who the F do they think is going to move to this Canton, OH living facility when they're old?
For HOF NFL players no less.
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Old 04-16-18, 02:06 PM
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That's the funniest thing I've read all week. Combine all the CTE side effects with having to live in Canton Ohio and every one of those guys would be committing suicide.
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Old 04-17-18, 02:34 PM
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Seriously? a 143-bed assisted living facility? Who the F do they think is going to move to this Canton, OH living facility when they're old?
If it ever gets built they will come because many are broke and not in good health.
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Old 04-17-18, 02:53 PM
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There are 310 total NFL HOFers. Some are broke. Some are wealthy. I doubt 143 are desolate enough to head to Canton to die.
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Old 04-17-18, 03:13 PM
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TBH I'm not even sure everyone is taking the comments literally.
They most definitely are. Most of this thread is people acting as if the HOF thinks they're building a Disney World-esque destination vacation spot. Now you're all backpeddling because you realize how stupid that argument is.
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Old 04-17-18, 03:21 PM
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The "Player Care Center" is probably the thing I'm most skeptical about. I really don't see the need for it at the HOF. It's kind of morbid. That said, it's not only for HOFers.
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Old 04-17-18, 04:03 PM
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Crusaders tripling down. Bold move.
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Old 04-17-18, 04:17 PM
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They most definitely are. Most of this thread is people acting as if the HOF thinks they're building a Disney World-esque destination vacation spot. Now you're all backpeddling because you realize how stupid that argument is.
That’s great. From the guy who went from “the Disney stuff is media sensationalism, no one from the project has even mentioned Disney”...Neo quotes the developers comments comparing it to Disney....to “they don’t mean Disney literally”.
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Old 04-17-18, 04:18 PM
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The "Player Care Center" is probably the thing I'm most skeptical about. I really don't see the need for it at the HOF. It's kind of morbid. That said, it's not only for HOFers.
The article said it was for HOFers. Do you have a link that outlines the criteria?
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