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Old 04-09-18, 07:22 PM
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Question @ April football practice?????

Are Ohio high school football teams allowed to compete in organized 7 on 7s in April????????????
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Old 04-09-18, 08:40 PM
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Old 04-10-18, 09:15 PM
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No but it would be nice if they could. It would give schools the chance to break in new coordinators.
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Old 04-16-18, 02:47 PM
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And it would also lead to more coaches who deter kids playing baseball and track.

Which IMO should be fireable.
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Old 04-17-18, 07:28 AM
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Seems to work out ok for the other 16 or so states that allow it... You shouldn't deter kids from enjoying high school, but if the option to play football in spring was there you would have kids choose that over baseball or track guaranteed.
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Old 04-17-18, 07:47 AM
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My problem would be some crazy coaches might look down on kids choosing track, baseball or Lacrosse over playing spring football. Lacrosse has killed the numbers in track.
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Old 04-17-18, 07:59 AM
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kinda how kids choose JO volleyball? or fall hitting leagues? or indoor/select soccer? Kids are allowed to swim year-round, play tennis, etc....
Seems every other sport is allowed to play year-round except the big, bad bully football. We have kids who participated in a wrestling tournament this past weekend. Where are the track and baseball advocates there?
The argument is always that it would kill other sports. Punish the popular sport and those kids? What about the kids who aren't seen by college coaches because those coaches are recruiting in states that do allow spring ball?
Make the rules the same. If you allow indoor track, why not Spring Football?
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Old 04-17-18, 09:00 AM
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kinda how kids choose JO volleyball? or fall hitting leagues? or indoor/select soccer? Kids are allowed to swim year-round, play tennis, etc....
Seems every other sport is allowed to play year-round except the big, bad bully football. We have kids who participated in a wrestling tournament this past weekend. Where are the track and baseball advocates there?
The argument is always that it would kill other sports. Punish the popular sport and those kids? What about the kids who aren't seen by college coaches because those coaches are recruiting in states that do allow spring ball?
Make the rules the same. If you allow indoor track, why not Spring Football?
In the day and age of Hudl and college football summer camps there is no kid out there that doesnt have ample opportunity to get recruited. spring ball is not a major factor in anyone getting recruited and it is definitely not a necessity. As the push for better safety regulation in football continues I personally think it will be highly unlikely for anyone to make a push for spring football in ohio and I personally agree.
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Old 04-17-18, 09:05 AM
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kinda how kids choose JO volleyball? or fall hitting leagues? or indoor/select soccer? Kids are allowed to swim year-round, play tennis, etc....
Seems every other sport is allowed to play year-round except the big, bad bully football. We have kids who participated in a wrestling tournament this past weekend. Where are the track and baseball advocates there?
The argument is always that it would kill other sports. Punish the popular sport and those kids? What about the kids who aren't seen by college coaches because those coaches are recruiting in states that do allow spring ball?
Make the rules the same. If you allow indoor track, why not Spring Football?
I agree that other sports compete year round (especially with AAU basketball, spring and summer baseball, etc) but I've also seen those coaches deter kids from playing other sports. I've seen basketball coaches deter kids from playing football because "if they're not at "practices" in Sept/Oct, they won't play." it's wrong, but it happens. Same thing would happen in football. Football coaches would be less inclined to push kids to play baseball or run track (which in my opinion is better for you than doing meaningless 7 on 7's in shorts and t-shirts in April). The spring should be for building strength and conditioning, not wasting time with even more 7-on-7's (like schools don't already do enough of those already)
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Old 04-17-18, 09:24 AM
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My problem would be some crazy coaches might look down on kids choosing track, baseball or Lacrosse over playing spring football. Lacrosse has killed the numbers in track.
You could be correct that lacrosse is taking some athletes from track, but the numbers are not affected at all. If anything Lacrosse is giving kids more of an opportunity to participate in something.

Not true at all with declining numbers. Track is still #2 in Ohio to Football and #2 nationally to football. Girls track #1 in the state and #1 in the nation.

All numbers from the past 5 years indicate track is still growing slightly.
Track is not losing numbers.


What Lacrosse is hurting are boys spring Volleyball. Boys volleyball is declining more than any other high school sport.

Overall, spring numbers are up the past 5 years in the state of Ohio for spring sports. Lacrosse is helping kids find a way for success. Spring football would also give kids an opportunity at success. The more opportunity kids have to stay out of trouble the better.
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Old 04-17-18, 12:38 PM
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No matter what sport you are participating in there will be the threat of injury. Kids get hurt running track, playing baseball, or lifting in the weight room. Injury as a deterrent to spring ball should not be a condition for exclusion.
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Old 04-18-18, 07:13 AM
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You could be correct that lacrosse is taking some athletes from track, but the numbers are not affected at all. If anything Lacrosse is giving kids more of an opportunity to participate in something.

Not true at all with declining numbers. Track is still #2 in Ohio to Football and #2 nationally to football. Girls track #1 in the state and #1 in the nation.

All numbers from the past 5 years indicate track is still growing slightly.
Track is not losing numbers.


What Lacrosse is hurting are boys spring Volleyball. Boys volleyball is declining more than any other high school sport.

Overall, spring numbers are up the past 5 years in the state of Ohio for spring sports. Lacrosse is helping kids find a way for success. Spring football would also give kids an opportunity at success. The more opportunity kids have to stay out of trouble the better.
I've not done the numbers. I'm just going by my school district. I'm not putting down Lacrosse at all and your right, I'm all for more opportunity for kids.
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Old 04-18-18, 09:05 AM
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And it would also lead to more coaches who deter kids playing baseball and track.

Which IMO should be fireable.
Baseball is a buncha lollygaggin grab*ss and track is just measured exercise.
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Old 04-18-18, 09:17 AM
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Baseball is a buncha lollygaggin grab*ss and track is just measured exercise.
Sounds like you're a real advocate for kids playing multiple sports, because clearly that's never had a positive impact on anyone
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Old 04-18-18, 10:28 AM
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Where we are approaching a crisis is in the number, and age, of officials.
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Old 04-18-18, 11:00 AM
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Spring football would give an easier transition for new officials, and an opportunity for them to work game mechanics in a more friendly environment? Spring games and practices would be an excellent opportunity to help new officials. As it stands now you get 2-3 scrims and maybe and intra-squad. However, by that point in the year the old timers need a warm up or 2 and the young development is no longer available.
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Old 04-18-18, 12:44 PM
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Baseball is a buncha lollygaggin grab*ss and track is just measured exercise.
Do you have any idea how many high school kids play football in college? 6%. And that number is below 2% for the next level.

These KIDS should PLAY as much as they can and have fun while they can. Unfortunately there are parents out there that think Little Johnny is going to be the next great thing and they discourage them from playing those sports where they just grab *ss and lollygag around (or by definition have fun).

And there are the coaches who for selfish reasons do the same thing.
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Old 04-18-18, 01:26 PM
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And it would also lead to more coaches who deter kids playing baseball and track.

Which IMO should be fireable.
I mean lets be honest, who really cares about the sports anyway?
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Old 04-18-18, 01:37 PM
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With all the current research on head injuries, why not practice in April and let them happen then so a coach knows who’s all in or all out for their team in the fall. Also it could ruin your season if a kid gets hurt in late September but an early May head injury gives the coach a contingency plan for his upcoming season
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Old 04-18-18, 01:43 PM
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With all the current research on head injuries, why not practice in April and let them happen then so a coach knows who’s all in or all out for their team in the fall. Also it could ruin your season if a kid gets hurt in late September but an early May head injury gives the coach a contingency plan for his upcoming season
That statement is maddening..... Practice more so if they get hurt they'll be OK to play in the fall.

Hard to believe you said that.
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Old 04-18-18, 01:47 PM
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That statement is maddening..... Practice more so if they get hurt they'll be OK to play in the fall.

Hard to believe you said that.
It is something to think about though. I mean you would be able to tell who is soft/concussed all of the time. By doing this a coach could discourage those cats to play and they could pick up softer sports like cross country or soccer. This would be a win win for all involved and would not waste coaching time in the fall.
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Old 04-18-18, 02:03 PM
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I mean lets be honest, who really cares about the sports anyway?
Nobody cares about baseball and track? Maybe on a football forum....

Football remains the largest participation sport in high school Track is the 2nd most. So those 600,000 kids who participate may argue your logic.

https://www.nfhs.org/articles/high-s...-million-mark/
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Old 04-18-18, 06:24 PM
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Track is awful
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Old 04-25-18, 09:41 AM
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I mean lets be honest, who really cares about the sports anyway?
The kids participating in them!
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Old 04-25-18, 09:44 AM
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It is something to think about though. I mean you would be able to tell who is soft/concussed all of the time. By doing this a coach could discourage those cats to play and they could pick up softer sports like cross country or soccer. This would be a win win for all involved and would not waste coaching time in the fall.
I would hope this comment was made in jest!
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