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Old 11-09-18, 04:48 PM
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Hoban is loaded, but Garfield Heights is much better than people give them credit for. The better programs on their schedule (Brecksville-Broadview Heights & Bedford) were down this year, so from the outside looking in, it's hard to get a good read on them. The Harding game was pretty even early on, but Garfield created extra opportunities for themselves on special teams and eventually stole the momentum. Minnesota commit Donald WIllis is an absolute beast at linebacker and his teammates follow his lead very well.

Again, you can't say enough about the way that Hoban has positioned themselves for success. People often forget that not too long ago, they were a pretty solid program, but not as dominant as they are now. When a team gets that good, it's easy to forget that there was a process that they had to go through to eventually emerge into what they are now. People often bring up the whole "public-private" school stuff, but there's reasons why things are the way that they are, especially in large cities. Hoban is the heavy favorite, but Garfield Heights deserves the oppotunity to show them what they've got.

Best of luck to both teams!
Astute observation as always, Worm2! I think they could possibly hang around, then it could get exciting.
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Old 11-09-18, 05:24 PM
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Hoban would give some DII and DIII colleges a run for their money.

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Old 11-09-18, 07:42 PM
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hmm 7-0 end of 1st quarter Garfield Heights is up. They scored more than most people thought on this thread...
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Old 11-09-18, 08:20 PM
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I can admit when I'm wrong.....The D is legit....
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Old 11-09-18, 08:38 PM
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Trayanum is ballin’. 3 TD’s for Hoban. 21-7 Hoban early in the 3rd.
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Old 11-09-18, 08:52 PM
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Trayanum with his 4th TD! 28-7 Hoban. Middle 3rd.
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Old 11-09-18, 09:33 PM
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41-7. Hoban. Final.
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Old 11-09-18, 10:50 PM
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Damn I'm good, almost nailed it 41-7....
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Old 11-09-18, 10:53 PM
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I can admit when I'm wrong.....The D is legit....
They were, but you could see the effects of Hoban's power run game leaning on them starting to take effect about midway through the 2nd qtr. Props to Garfield, they came out out and hit Hoban early, tough weather night looked to be to their friend, but the Hoban run game, even with 9 in the box for Garfield, just took over. By midway through the 3rd, Garfield's front 7 was getting blown 10 yds off the ball.
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Old 11-10-18, 10:44 AM
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no they wouldn’t.
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Old 11-10-18, 11:21 AM
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Damn I'm good, almost nailed it 41-7....
Good call, especially for a guy who doesn't have a dog in the fight! LOL.

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Old 11-10-18, 11:41 AM
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Jeezus is Hoban a machine. Out of adjectives.

Pencil in a 40 point w > Maple Hts?
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Old 11-11-18, 12:59 AM
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They were, but you could see the effects of Hoban's power run game leaning on them starting to take effect about midway through the 2nd qtr. Props to Garfield, they came out out and hit Hoban early, tough weather night looked to be to their friend, but the Hoban run game, even with 9 in the box for Garfield, just took over. By midway through the 3rd, Garfield's front 7 was getting blown 10 yds off the ball.
After watching the game I stand by what I said...Garfield was for real their d was good.. that team beat them... Hoban is a grind game and they came out the second half and did exactly what they should have..., run away from #15.... The weather hurt Garfield last night but Hoban is just heavy... they wear on you and are very good... the score was defintely not indicative of the game but Hoban earned it..
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Old 11-11-18, 01:34 AM
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Congratulations to Garfield on a great season. I have seen Hoban and they are just a whole different animal to deal with. Great win for Hoban and on to the next week.
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Old 11-11-18, 08:32 PM
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After watching the game I stand by what I said...Garfield was for real their d was good.. that team beat them... Hoban is a grind game and they came out the second half and did exactly what they should have..., run away from #15.... The weather hurt Garfield last night but Hoban is just heavy... they wear on you and are very good... the score was defintely not indicative of the game but Hoban earned it..
The score was exactly indicative, the last 2.5 qtrs was complete domination:

TOTAL YDS - HOBAN 530, GARFIELD 159
RUSHING - HOBAN 444, GARFIELD 111
FIRST DOWNS - HOBAN 24, GARFIELD 10

Garfield gained 75 of those yards on their first drive, which was impressive, but that was the last sniff they got. And Hoban doesn't run away from anyone; they tell you when they're running it and where, because they don't think you can stop it. Garfield was putting 9 and 10 in the box in the 2nd half, and was still helpless.
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Old 11-11-18, 09:00 PM
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I feel like I'm a pretty knowledgeable guy when it comes to football. For this reason I've devised a gameplan for any D2 team to stop Hoban this year. As follows:
1. Have a senior led once in a generation team. Lots of heart and determination.
2. Instead of practicing in the week leading up to the game pray to the weather gods so that every time Hobans offense takes the field it's a torrential downpour.
3. When Hoban is on offense replace the football with a bowling ball soaked in motor oil. This will require a lot of skill and determination as you have to distract the referees. This should be done by a senior only.
4. Have a catholic priest (the good kind) lead your team onto the field before the game. Fight fire with fire, am I right?
5. Hire strippers to streak the first time Hoban enters the red zone. The knights will be so distracted they won't know what to do. Note (This could be a good time to get that bowling ball in there).
6. Do or die on every play. Lateral the ball until you can't anymore like it's the last play of the game on every possession.


I'm still working on my list but I feel like these six steps followed properly can get anyone in D2 within a touchdown of Hoban. I have more research to do...

To be continued.
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Old 11-11-18, 10:10 PM
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The score was exactly indicative, the last 2.5 qtrs was complete domination:

TOTAL YDS - HOBAN 530, GARFIELD 159
RUSHING - HOBAN 444, GARFIELD 111
FIRST DOWNS - HOBAN 24, GARFIELD 10

Garfield gained 75 of those yards on their first drive, which was impressive, but that was the last sniff they got. And Hoban doesn't run away from anyone; they tell you when they're running it and where, because they don't think you can stop it. Garfield was putting 9 and 10 in the box in the 2nd half, and was still helpless.
Redwings you are wrong plain and simple.... I talked to their coach and he literally told me that... Garfield wasnīt putting 9 or 10 in the box, Hoban did wear them down though... Hoban might have completed three passes the entire game, the weather in the second half really hurt Garfield. Garfield QB is a great athlete but not a true passer so in the perfect weather conditions he is ok, with that weather they couldnīt complete passes. Watch the game guys were open it was very hard conditions to throw the ball. Hoban knew that and THEY were the ones putting 9 in the box and just smothered the running game. Also not that it matters but they were in the redzone the second half but Hoban beat them plain and simple. It got out of hand at the end of the third and Garfield was fatigued. To the poster that said you want a downpour when Hoban has the ball is the opposite of what you want. You want Hoban to try and throw the ball, if it is raining they will make you choke on the run game. I donīt see a team being able to withstand their run game.
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Old 11-11-18, 10:12 PM
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Pretty funny.
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Old 11-11-18, 11:21 PM
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Redwings you are wrong plain and simple.... I talked to their coach and he literally told me that... Garfield wasnīt putting 9 or 10 in the box, Hoban did wear them down though... Hoban might have completed three passes the entire game, the weather in the second half really hurt Garfield. Garfield QB is a great athlete but not a true passer so in the perfect weather conditions he is ok, with that weather they couldnīt complete passes. Watch the game guys were open it was very hard conditions to throw the ball. Hoban knew that and THEY were the ones putting 9 in the box and just smothered the running game. Also not that it matters but they were in the redzone the second half but Hoban beat them plain and simple. It got out of hand at the end of the third and Garfield was fatigued. To the poster that said you want a downpour when Hoban has the ball is the opposite of what you want. You want Hoban to try and throw the ball, if it is raining they will make you choke on the run game. I donīt see a team being able to withstand their run game.
I was at the game, Hoban played almost the entire 2nd half in their heavy run set, with 3 in the backfield with the QB under center, and a TE on the line. Garfield had almost everyone playing the run because that's what the offensive formation dictated, since there was no mystery to what Hoban was doing (and they run left at least 80% of the time out of that set). They want to win in the playoffs with the run, but they have a very effective passing game with terrific playmakers on the outside when conditions allow. They won the state title game throwing the ball last year. I think Big Ben would've had trouble throwing in that stuff on Friday night. I'm not disparaging Garfield, I was impressed with their athletes and their size. They just have so many guys playing both ways, which is a tough way to live against Hoban when that run game keeps coming at you.
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Old 11-11-18, 11:24 PM
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Were you at the game? Hoban doesn’t crowd the box because they don’t have to. The defense is predicated on what the offense does. Garfield absolutely crowded the box but their coach had no idea what he was doing. He put too many people up on the line which made a man on man one level defense and they just didn’t have enough men. Hoban’s pass game is very strong and was equally diminished due to weather. If Hoban decides to throw then the score just gets higher faster. Not taking anything away from GH, they were the third toughest team Hoban played this year.
Yes I was... Watched the whole game and then rewatched again yesterday... I am amused by your take on it, watching the game unfold I knew what Hoban was doing and then it was confirmed after I talked to the coach after the game. Hoban doesnīt crowd the box because they donīt have to is honestly a dumb statement... They did exactly what they should have and pinned their ears back and brought it... plain and simple... Garfield was in a 3-4 the whole game and really didnīt go away from it so no he didnīt put too many people on the line. He did blitz more than I would have and a lot of the time it walled off the blitzers... But in reality like I said earlier they ran away from from #15 (which I would do), in the second half it was blatant I donīt know why this is even a discussion... If Hoban decides to throw, it doesnīt get higher that was shown at the end of the first half... They tried to throw and they arenīt very efficient at it. I wouldnīt throw the ball either if I coached at Hoban...Why? Just pound them into submission
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Old 11-12-18, 12:06 AM
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The point is, everyone in the building knew that Hoban was going to run it right at them, and they were powerless to stop it. They don't run away from anyone, they run their pet plays behind the guys they want to run behind and couldn't care less who might be on that side. They played against Eichenberg from Iggy week 1, and it was the same deal with him. Hoban's passing game is extremely efficient, and creates a lot of big plays. Making a judgment based on what you saw in those conditions doesn't make any sense (they were 7-11 for 86 yds). When conditions are good, it just makes them harder to defend and the clock starts running earlier. Their QB completed 70% and set a school record for TD passes last year with 28 as a freshmen, and came back with a bigger arm this year.
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Old 11-12-18, 05:42 AM
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Yes I was... Watched the whole game and then rewatched again yesterday... I am amused by your take on it, watching the game unfold I knew what Hoban was doing and then it was confirmed after I talked to the coach after the game. Hoban doesnīt crowd the box because they donīt have to is honestly a dumb statement... They did exactly what they should have and pinned their ears back and brought it... plain and simple... Garfield was in a 3-4 the whole game and really didnīt go away from it so no he didnīt put too many people on the line. He did blitz more than I would have and a lot of the time it walled off the blitzers... But in reality like I said earlier they ran away from from #15 (which I would do), in the second half it was blatant I donīt know why this is even a discussion... If Hoban decides to throw, it doesnīt get higher that was shown at the end of the first half... They tried to throw and they arenīt very efficient at it. I wouldnīt throw the ball either if I coached at Hoban...Why? Just pound them into submission
No way you watched the game, Hoban really didn't crowd the box....Maybe the snow and rain got in your eyes....😢
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Old 11-12-18, 05:51 AM
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With the front 7 that Hoban has.... I've not seen one game when Hoban has loaded the box..... My bad, they did load the box against Wayne in the goal line stand... And I don't even have a dog in the fight and I know this.....😁
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Old 11-12-18, 02:56 PM
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Hmmm...
Just a High school football fan that likes Hoban..... Copley had a down year......

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Old 11-12-18, 04:43 PM
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Just a High school football fan that likes Hoban..... Copley had a down year......
So it's a whole kennel!
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Old 11-12-18, 05:35 PM
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So it's a whole kennel!
Hoban has a Copley kid on the roster thats doing pretty good....
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Old 11-12-18, 07:57 PM
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The point is, everyone in the building knew that Hoban was going to run it right at them, and they were powerless to stop it. They don't run away from anyone, they run their pet plays behind the guys they want to run behind and couldn't care less who might be on that side. They played against Eichenberg from Iggy week 1, and it was the same deal with him. Hoban's passing game is extremely efficient, and creates a lot of big plays. Making a judgment based on what you saw in those conditions doesn't make any sense (they were 7-11 for 86 yds). When conditions are good, it just makes them harder to defend and the clock starts running earlier. Their QB completed 70% and set a school record for TD passes last year with 28 as a freshmen, and came back with a bigger arm this year.
Pointless to go back and forth with you guys... You guys obviously have your POV and it differs from mine. Hoban is a really really good team, they will be a hard out. I talked to their coach after the game and was relaying some of the things he said, you guys can believe whatever you want. If you honestly think that Hoban doesnīt watch film and come up with a gameplan every week on what they want to do against their opponents defense then you guys are absolutely nuts. The second half they were blatantly running weak and I brought it up to coach tyrrell and he chuckled and said ĻabsolutelyĻ. Not that big of a deal guys, it was a good plan and great adjustment at half. I have broken down four films on Hoban, they arenīt great passing the ball, obviously their play action is really good. That isnīt a big knock on them if I was them I would give it #1 every down.

Have a good week guys good luck against Maple, if the weather is like it was on Friday it will be a really bad night for the Mustangs. If the weather is good hopefully they can hold off the running clock because they can throw the ball pretty well but they arenīt great up front. Hoban should win by a minimum of 21 as athletic as Maple is they just arenīt as physical as they need to be.
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Old 11-12-18, 08:10 PM
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Garfield Hts will get rolled in this game.
Agreed. Hoban will win by at least 3 scores.
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