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Old 01-11-17, 01:46 AM
State The Obvious State The Obvious is offline
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Clayton Murphy ranked #1 U.S., #6 World

The annual Track and Field News rankings issue has been mailed and as expected our own Clayton Murphy earned a #1 U.S. ranking at 800 meters. The only other time since the rankings began (1947) that an Ohioan has been ranked first was in 1972 when Dave Wottle brought home gold from Munich.

Clayton also earned a #6 World ranking. (Personally, I thought his Olympic bronze should've had him ranked higher than 6th).

His 1:42.93 ranked #1 in the U.S., #4 in the World and is the 5th fastest time ever run by an American. Only 2 Americans have ever run faster (Johnny Gray, 3 times and Duane Solomon once).

Wow!

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Old 01-11-17, 06:41 AM
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Clayton is also planning to run the 3000m in the New Balance Indoor Grand Prix in Boston on January 28th. Of note, he will be racing against two 5000m Olympic Medalists in Paul Chelimo (USA - Silver) and Hagos Gebrhiwet (Ethiopia - Bronze). Kind of nice to see he isn't afraid to step up in distance and race against a couple guys who have run in the 7:30s and will likely blow his doors off.
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Old 01-11-17, 12:46 PM
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Clayton is also planning to run the 3000m in the New Balance Indoor Grand Prix in Boston on January 28th. Of note, he will be racing against two 5000m Olympic Medalists in Paul Chelimo (USA - Silver) and Hagos Gebrhiwet (Ethiopia - Bronze). Kind of nice to see he isn't afraid to step up in distance and race against a couple guys who have run in the 7:30s and will likely blow his doors off.
Oh, he won't get his doors blown off. If it's a stiff pace, he'll run mid 7:40's and if it's slow, he could be in the hunt to win.
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Old 01-11-17, 02:01 PM
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Clayton is going to have a long career. He wasnt a high mileage guy in HS. He also will be smart and develop range for longer races. So many 800 guys cant go to the 1500 or 3000 later in their career. He will.
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Old 01-11-17, 04:58 PM
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Oh, he won't get his doors blown off. If it's a stiff pace, he'll run mid 7:40's and if it's slow, he could be in the hunt to win.
I guess it depends on what your definition of getting your doors blown off is. I don't think he'll run mid 7:40s. I'd say 7:50 would be a fantastic race for him at this point, and I'm guessing a few guys will be looking at low 7:40s. You're right though, if it's close at the end and was fairly slow he definitely has a shot.
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Old 01-16-17, 12:50 PM
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Here's a short Q & A with Murphy.

It sounds to me as if he is open to racing the 1500 more regularly and possibly longer than that. I would think that s he ages and matures he will evolve. In the meantime, racing the upcoming 3000 indoors will be beneficial to him from a strength standpoint in both the 800 and the 1500. It will help him be able to maintain pace over a longer distance and may even moderately improve his vo2 max . It's smart for him to be pushing himself.
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Old 01-28-17, 09:46 PM
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Oh, he won't get his doors blown off. If it's a stiff pace, he'll run mid 7:40's and if it's slow, he could be in the hunt to win.
The meet was in NBCSN today but I didn't get a chance to see it. Results are here http://live.pttiming.com/?mid=1132

Murphy didn't have a good race finishing 12 th of 12 in 8:16.7. Looking at the splits it looks like something happened between 1800 to 2200. Hopefully he didn't get injured.
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Old 01-29-17, 10:28 AM
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Not sure anything happened physically. They said before the start that he was using the race as a workout to prepare for a mile race he is doing in a couple of weeks, cant remember if it is the wanamaker or millrose. He never challenged during any point in the race, sitting in the back of the pack the whole time.
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Old 01-29-17, 11:57 PM
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I originally thought Clayton would run a great 3000 this weekend. But I was wrong. After thinking it thru, here's where I went wrong:

It was unfair to Clayton for me to have such high expectations. It was actually his fault tho. It seems like anything he touches turns to gold (or at least bronze)! Clayton, to date tho, is an 800 runner who dabbles in the 1500/mile. He has had success in the 1500 but it pales in comparison to his 800 accomplishments. The 3000 is a totally different event than the 800/1500. To expect him to just line up in his first pro 3000 and be able to run with runners who have been running the event for years is ludicrous. Same thing with busting a fast time.

I don't buy that he ran in the prestigious New Balance Games as a workout. He just was out of his league. For now. He tried to hang for as long as he could but found out it's a very long race!

Does he have the tools to be a great 1500 runner? Undoubtedly. How about 3000? Maybe. Only time will tell. But, IMO, I do think we'll see something special out of Clayton in the 1500/mile this year. I'm a fan.
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Old 01-30-17, 06:53 AM
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I originally thought Clayton would run a great 3000 this weekend. But I was wrong. After thinking it thru, here's where I went wrong:

It was unfair to Clayton for me to have such high expectations. It was actually his fault tho. It seems like anything he touches turns to gold (or at least bronze)! Clayton, to date tho, is an 800 runner who dabbles in the 1500/mile. He has had success in the 1500 but it pales in comparison to his 800 accomplishments. The 3000 is a totally different event than the 800/1500. To expect him to just line up in his first pro 3000 and be able to run with runners who have been running the event for years is ludicrous. Same thing with busting a fast time.

I don't buy that he ran in the prestigious New Balance Games as a workout. He just was out of his league. For now. He tried to hang for as long as he could but found out it's a very long race!

Does he have the tools to be a great 1500 runner? Undoubtedly. How about 3000? Maybe. Only time will tell. But, IMO, I do think we'll see something special out of Clayton in the 1500/mile this year. I'm a fan.
Good analysis.

One slight correction which probably comes down more to semantics than anything: he did use the race as a workout, however, I am sure he still wanted to run much faster and be much more competitive than he was. Using it as a workout and wanting to be competitive are not necessarily mutually exclusive.

Last year, on the same exact weekend in the 3000m he opened with an 8:18. I think we know how that year turned out. As you said Ram On, he'll be just fine.
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Old 04-24-17, 08:31 AM
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Clayton Murphy had another big performance this past weekend at the IAAF/BTC World Relays in the Bahamas. Murphy ran the anchor in the 4x8 and teamed up with fellow Ohioan Brannon Kidder, Erik Sowinsk, and Casimir Loxsom to win over Kenya. The race was tactical in nature and the times were slowish. The anchors for Kenya and the USA received the batons at the same time and it has been reported that Murphy ran his last 200 in ≈ 24.09 to beat Oly 5th place finisher Ferguson Rotich for the victory.

Final Results:

1 UNITED STATES 7:13.16
2 KENYA 7:13.70
3 POLAND 7:18.74
4 AUSTRALIA 7:20.10
5 MEXICO 7:20.92
6 QATAR 7:28.25
7 ATHLETE REFUGEE TEAM 8:12.57

More on the event here and here.
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Old 08-24-17, 08:47 AM
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The Nike Oregon Project announced yesterday that Clayton Murphy will be joining the controversial team. This is the team that consists of Mo Farah, Galen Rupp, Matt Centowitz Jr, and others. There has been talk of Murphy joining the team for a long time but the rumored barrier was that Centrowitz did not want him to join. Centro must have relented on this. Murphy has been successful with Lee LaBadie coaching him after Akron up to this point in his career. Hopefully this move will allow for continued growth. I believe the fact that Murphy's girlfriend is a junior sprinter on the track team at Oregon was also a factor in his decision in wanting to move West.

Meanwhile, Murphy's rehab, after his injury this past summer, seems to be coming along. He raced a 800 in Sopot, Poland in the middle of the month finishing 6th or 7th in 1:48ish. Neither of Poland's "big boy" 800 runners, Kszczot or Lewandowski, were racing, though.

Good luck to Clayton going forward.
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Old 09-02-17, 01:17 AM
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NOP is an amazing group. Controversial? Yes. But they do get results!
What an opportunity for Clayton. He'll get to train with Centro and Craig Engels and have access to the best training facilities in the world.

You have to wonder, though, how successfully he'll adjust to the new coach, new training system and new environment.

Obviously Clayton and Coach Labadie clicked. In a big way. The old adage, "Don't fix it if it isn't broken", hangs over this transition. However, signing with Nike gave Clayton no other option than to leave Labadie and join Nike's premier training group. Nike mandated that more than likely.

Under Coach Labadie, Clayton achieved a remarkable amount of success in an extremely short period of time. It's a big risk to change everything around. But one thing that hasn't changed is Clayton's healthy dose of world class talent.

Good Luck to Clayton in this next phase!!
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Old 09-02-17, 10:20 PM
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In response to Rohbino's comments....I too heard Centro wasn't happy about the addition of Murphy. If true, that's not a good start. Regarding his disappointing 2017 season, it'll be interesting to see how Clayton bounces back from the first setback of his young career. It'll also be interesting to see if he runs the 800 as his primary event or the 1500.
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Old 09-02-17, 11:07 PM
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NOP is an amazing group. Controversial? Yes. But they do get results!
What an opportunity for Clayton. He'll get to train with Centro and Craig Engels and have access to the best training facilities in the world.

You have to wonder, though, how successfully he'll adjust to the new coach, new training system and new environment.

Obviously Clayton and Coach Labadie clicked. In a big way. The old adage, "Don't fix it if it isn't broken", hangs over this transition. However, signing with Nike gave Clayton no other option than to leave Labadie and join Nike's premier training group. Nike mandated that more than likely.

Under Coach Labadie, Clayton achieved a remarkable amount of success in an extremely short period of time. It's a big risk to change everything around. But one thing that hasn't changed is Clayton's healthy dose of world class talent.

Good Luck to Clayton in this next phase!!
Nike did not force Clayton to step away from LaBadie and join Alberto's group or pressure him to join any group for that matter. Clayton and LaBadie have great respect for one another and part ways with a great relationship. It definitely remains to be seen if it is the right decision but it was Clayton's decision in the end and no one else's.
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Old 09-03-17, 01:02 AM
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The Nike Oregon Project announced yesterday that Clayton Murphy will be joining the controversial team.
Well, so much for cheering for Murphy.

Too bad.

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Define long career.
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Old 09-04-17, 12:04 AM
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Nike did not force Clayton to step away from LaBadie and join Alberto's group or pressure him to join any group for that matter. Clayton and LaBadie have great respect for one another and part ways with a great relationship. It definitely remains to be seen if it is the right decision but it was Clayton's decision in the end and no one else's.
If you heard it straight from Clayton then that is that, I guess. But I kind of see it the way State The Obvious put it. Along with Galen Rupp, Clayton is the golden boy for Nike right now. Olympic Medalist as a junior/senior in college, one of the fastest half-milers in US history and likely a future star in one of track's most popular events, the 1500/mile.

All of Nike's top runners, male and female, train with one of 3 groups: NOP, OTC or Bowerman TC Elite. They are coached by either Alberto, Schumacher or Rowland. I find it difficult to believe that Nike would sign someone as accomplished as Clayton and with the potential Clayton has and just let him stay in Akron, Ohio and be coached by the Akron coach if that's what he wanted. Their poster boy. In Akron, going rogue. Nike wouldn't allow that in a million years. Additionally, if you had the choice, why would you sever ties with the coach that took you to the top so quickly? A coach who had a system that obviously worked like a charm for you. Maybe the "agreed upon" statement was that it was Clayton''s choice, but I highly doubt if that was the case.
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Old 09-04-17, 06:15 AM
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If you heard it straight from Clayton then that is that, I guess. ...
That is correct.
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Old 09-04-17, 09:51 AM
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Well, so much for cheering for Murphy.
I will still cheer for Murphy, but if he runs some great performances and times I will now be very suspicious. I will have doubt about great times and races when associated with a group like NOP. When you lay with dogs........
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Old 09-04-17, 01:18 PM
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I will still cheer for Murphy, but if he runs some great performances and times I will now be very suspicious. I will have doubt about great times and races when associated with a group like NOP. When you lay with dogs........
Define great times. He's already run sub-1:43 and sub-3:52. I would think those are considered great times and without the shroud of suspiscion. Maybe I should say, without too much of a shroud of suspiscion. In our sport, great performances always carry that suspiscion to at least a small degree, unfortunately.
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