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Old 03-13-18, 07:41 AM
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Here's an interesting take showing how building a wall to cut down illegal migration from south of the border will pay for itself! If this article is correct than charging a tax on cash remittances to Mexico & Central America might be a profit making operation!

https://nypost.com/2018/03/10/cuttin...share=facebook

If a wall stopped 50 percent of those expected crossings, he says, it would save American taxpayers a whopping $64 billion ó almost four times the wallís cost ó to say nothing of the additional billions in federal savings from reduced federal drug interdiction and border-security enforcement.

Camarota explains that illegal border-crossers from Mexico and Central America ó who account for more than 75 percent of the illegal immigrant population in the US ó are overwhelmingly poor, uneducated and lack English language and other skills. In fact, the average Latino illegal immigrant has less than a 10th-grade education. That means if they work, they tend to make low wages; and as a result pay relatively little in taxes while using public services. And if they have children while in the US, they more often than not receive welfare benefits on behalf of those US-born children, who have the same welfare eligibility as any other citizen.

ďA large share of the welfare used by immigrant households is received on behalf of their US-born children,Ē Camarota said. ďThis is especially true of households headed by illegal immigrants.Ē

Therefore, illegal border-crossers create an average fiscal burden of more than $72,000 during their lifetimes, Camarota says. Including costs for their US-born children, the fiscal drain jumps to more than $94,000.



Note that the wall doesn't even have to be that effective. It just has to reduce illegal migration by 50% for us to see HUGE savings!

It would also help if we got the SCOTUS to rule on the constitutionality of anchor babies! I've read several decent articles indicating that the overly broad practice of granting automatic citizenship to ANYONE born in the US would be found unconstitutional. The key is that ONLY those born here to parents who were LEGALLY entitled to be here should receive AUTOMATIC citizenship.
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Old 03-13-18, 08:56 AM
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Bye bye Tillerson
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Old 03-13-18, 09:00 AM
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Bye bye Tillerson
i would have thought you would have liked Tillerson? Seems Rex and the person you can not stand were never on the same page.
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Old 03-13-18, 09:49 AM
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First female head of the CIA takes the reins. Interesting how thatís not news. Like, at all.
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Old 03-13-18, 10:51 AM
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i would have thought you would have liked Tillerson? Seems Rex and the person you can not stand were never on the same page.
Talk about over-analyzing
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Old 03-13-18, 11:49 AM
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First female head of the CIA takes the reins. Interesting how thatís not news. Like, at all.
Wrong person appointed her.
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Old 03-13-18, 12:53 PM
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First female head of the CIA takes the reins. Interesting how thatís not news. Like, at all.
It's noted on the front page of the New York Times website without even scrolling down:

Mr. Trump picked Mike Pompeo, currently the C.I.A. chief, as Mr. Tillersonís replacement. Gina Haspel, his choice for C.I.A. chief, would be the first woman to head the spy agency.


FoxNews and Washington Post went with the catchier headlines of her CIA black site experience:

Trumpís choice to head CIA is seasoned veteran who ran 'black sites' where terrorists were waterboarded
Gina Haspel, Trumpís pick to head the CIA, is a seasoned spymaster who has avoided the limelight during a 32-year career.



About half way down the page on CNN without scrolling

She may be the 1st female CIA chief


First sentence in the USA Today article about Trump's nominee:

Gina Haspel, President Trumpís nominee to become the first woman to lead the Central Intelligence Agency, made her career in covert action, but her involvement in controversial interrogations has already provoked Senate opposition to her confirmation.

There's plenty of news out there about Gina Haspel being the first woman nominated to lead the CIA and it's not hard to find.
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Old 03-13-18, 01:22 PM
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It's noted on the front page of the New York Times website without even scrolling down:

Mr. Trump picked Mike Pompeo, currently the C.I.A. chief, as Mr. Tillersonís replacement. Gina Haspel, his choice for C.I.A. chief, would be the first woman to head the spy agency.


FoxNews and Washington Post went with the catchier headlines of her CIA black site experience:

Trumpís choice to head CIA is seasoned veteran who ran 'black sites' where terrorists were waterboarded
Gina Haspel, Trumpís pick to head the CIA, is a seasoned spymaster who has avoided the limelight during a 32-year career.



About half way down the page on CNN without scrolling

She may be the 1st female CIA chief


First sentence in the USA Today article about Trump's nominee:

Gina Haspel, President Trumpís nominee to become the first woman to lead the Central Intelligence Agency, made her career in covert action, but her involvement in controversial interrogations has already provoked Senate opposition to her confirmation.

There's plenty of news out there about Gina Haspel being the first woman nominated to lead the CIA and it's not hard to find.

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Old 03-13-18, 04:27 PM
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First female head of the CIA takes the reins. Interesting how thatís not news. Like, at all.
Well it is news in that she is being called a "torturer" by all the usual suspects!
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Old 03-13-18, 09:38 PM
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Lamb and Saccone are neck and neck...in a district Trump won by 20 points
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Old 03-13-18, 10:13 PM
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Lamb and Saccone are neck and neck...in a district Trump won by 20 points
Put crappy candidates up for election and you will get crappy results. See Hillary Clinton and Roy Moore.
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Old 03-14-18, 07:45 AM
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Lamb and Saccone are neck and neck...in a district Trump won by 20 points
If he wins, it may be because Lamb ran as a conservative. He took Saccone's talking points leaving little distinction between the two. It will be interesting to see if he actually represents like one and how that changes things in November. If you have to look and act like the enemy to win, did you really?
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Old 03-14-18, 08:57 AM
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Lamb and Saccone are neck and neck...in a district Trump won by 20 points
I copied this over from another thread but it fits here to:

Here are some interesting numbers for you to chew on. When considering ONLY two term presidents in the modern era (post Watergate) here's how their first mid-term congressional elections looked:

Reagan: Lost 26 House seats and gained 1 Senate seat

Clinton: Lost 52 House seats and lost 8 Senate seats

GW Bush: Gained 8 House seats and gained 2 Senate seats

Obama: Lost 63 House seats and lost 6 Senate Seats.


See the common factors? Of the last four two-term presidents ONLY GW Bush didn't suffer major first term congressional losses. Yet if one were to rank order the impact & power of these four presidents GW would likely finish at the bottom behind Reagan, Clinton & Obama.

If I was guessing I would say that Trump's results will most clearly mirror Reagan's numbers. So what can we conclude about the modern presidency? First term midterm elections HAVE NOTHING to do with whether a POTUS will be reelected and the success/failure of a president has nothing to do with the first midterm election.

Here's the link if you don't trust me:

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/data/..._elections.php

For the record I only went back to Reagan as other factors like MAJOR wars and economic dislocations (Great Depression) impacted things. In fact you could argue that the ONLY reason GW Bush didn't suffer midterm election losses in his first term was 9/11.
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Old 03-14-18, 09:02 AM
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If he wins, it may be because Lamb ran as a conservative. He took Saccone's talking points leaving little distinction between the two. It will be interesting to see if he actually represents like one and how that changes things in November. If you have to look and act like the enemy to win, did you really?
Exactly right. Lamb was a young, pro gun, anti abortion ex marine supported by the unions. Gee how the hell did he win election in "conservative" PA? My guess is Trump looked at Lamb and asked Paul Ryan why he wasn't running as a Republican?

It will be interesting to see how Lamb does when he gets to DC. There is NO way he will be allowed to vote his conscience and the folks back home are going to get mighty upset if he joins his democrat "colleagues" in opposing everything Trump tries to do.
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Old 03-14-18, 10:29 AM
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What people have failed to mention (and I have family in D18 and I lived there till age 21 and at that time was a Democrat) is that Seventy-one percent of residents (500,438) are registered to vote. Democrats hold a majority — 46 percent to 41 percent Republican registrants. The remaining 13 percent are otherwise registered. So a Democrat v a poor Reb. opponent wasn't much of a surprise to me.
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Old 03-14-18, 10:32 AM
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- Millions in funding from the RNC
- Endorsed by the President in a district he won by 20 points
- President held a rally to make sure he won

All that just to lose
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Old 03-14-18, 10:48 AM
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- Millions in funding from the RNC
- Endorsed by the President in a district he won by 20 points
- President held a rally to make sure he won

All that just to lose
Yes, because the Democrats walked away from Hillary and the 1042 state and federal legislators that were defeated during the Obama administration in states and districts he won in each election....... those votes weren't referendums on Obama and the Democrat platform.
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Old 03-14-18, 10:48 AM
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It is pretty pathetic when people are so tribal about politics that they don't even consider a candidate's platform when determining whether their side won.

If Lamb is just a Republican in blue clothes, isn't that actually a major issue to look into? Do the Dems really want a their seats taken by people who are actually more Republican on many issues?
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Old 03-14-18, 10:53 AM
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- Millions in funding from the RNC
- Endorsed by the President in a district he won by 20 points
- President held a rally to make sure he won

All that just to lose
To a Democrat that sounded like a R just to win. Now we will see him vote the D ticket because that is what he is told to do. What a joke!!! What a great Candidate the D's have say whatever is needed to get elected and then vote the party line.
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Old 03-14-18, 11:08 AM
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So did anyone walk out of work for the 10 AM protest err memorial?
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Old 03-14-18, 11:39 AM
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So did anyone walk out of work for the 10 AM protest err memorial?
Nope. I did laugh at the media attention as if whiney kids should influence national direction.
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Old 03-14-18, 11:54 AM
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Exactly right. Lamb was a young, pro gun, anti abortion ex marine supported by the unions. Gee how the hell did he win election in "conservative" PA? My guess is Trump looked at Lamb and asked Paul Ryan why he wasn't running as a Republican?

It will be interesting to see how Lamb does when he gets to DC. There is NO way he will be allowed to vote his conscience and the folks back home are going to get mighty upset if he joins his democrat "colleagues" in opposing everything Trump tries to do.
Lamb criticized the GOP attempt to repeal Obamacare, He called the GOP tax bill a "giveaway" to wealthy Americans, he is also Pro Union. Its easy to see why he wasnt running as a republican
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Old 03-14-18, 03:44 PM
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Lamb is personally opposed to abortion, but supports Roe v Wade. Very similar to the position Biden has. The only other issue where issues from a typical Dem is gun control, and he’s in favor of stricter background checks. Everything else is typical Dem
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Old 03-14-18, 04:19 PM
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Lamb is personally opposed to abortion, but supports Roe v Wade. Very similar to the position Biden has. The only other issue where issues from a typical Dem is gun control, and heís in favor of stricter background checks. Everything else is typical Dem
Those are cornerstone Dem positions. Don't downplay it now
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Old 03-14-18, 05:27 PM
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If he votes in lockstep with the Dems, this all falls under distinction without a difference.
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Old 03-15-18, 08:52 AM
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Remember Clock Boy? and how Obama got egg on his face by his invite to the White House? Well is has been reported that the last of Daddy"s lawsuit have finally been thrown out of court. Daddy sued just about everyone he could think of and lost all of them. Good job!! This last one cost daddy somewhere around 200,000 in lawyer fees and costs and the court says he gets to pay them. This should happen more often when people sue over dumb things.
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Old 03-15-18, 10:05 AM
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@realDonaldTrump:
We do have a Trade Deficit with Canada, as we do with almost all countries (some of them massive). P.M. Justin Trudeau of Canada, a very good guy, doesn’t like saying that Canada has a Surplus vs. the U.S.(negotiating), but they do...they almost all do...and that’s how I know!

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U.S. goods and services trade with Canada totaled an estimated $627.8 billion in 2016. Exports were $320.1 billion; imports were $307.6 billion. The U.S. goods and services trade surplus with Canada was $12.5 billion in 2016.
https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/americas/canada#

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Old 03-15-18, 10:56 AM
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@realDonaldTrump:
We do have a Trade Deficit with Canada, as we do with almost all countries (some of them massive). P.M. Justin Trudeau of Canada, a very good guy, doesnít like saying that Canada has a Surplus vs. the U.S.(negotiating), but they do...they almost all do...and thatís how I know!


https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/americas/canada#

I don't follow his twitter account - was he discussing goods and services, or just goods - some context would help.

from the article you provided:


Trade Balance

ēThe U.S. goods trade deficit with Canada was $12.1 billion in 2016, a 22.1% decrease ($3.4 billion) over 2015.

ēThe United States has a services trade surplus of an estimated $25 billion with Canada in 2016, down 10.4% from 2015.
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Old 03-15-18, 08:36 PM
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Bye bye McMaster!
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Old 03-16-18, 07:45 AM
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It's a little early to tell if this is working, but maybe Trump is driving a new normal. Instead of career politicians and advisors, bring them in like hired assassins. Hire them for a specific task, see it through, then send them on their way before they get swallowed by the swamp.

It's how a lot of jobs and careers are treated these days.
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