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Old 06-13-17, 01:38 PM
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Division VI Region 21

This region was dominated by Kirtland 13, 14, and 15. In 2016 Cuyahoga Heights knocked the hornets off and took the region, but the redskins are now down to D7 and Kirtland is the prohibitive favorite once again.

Brookfield (Brookfield)
Brooklyn (Brooklyn)
Cardinal (Middlefield)
Columbia (Columbia Station)
Columbiana (Columbiana)
East Palestine (East Palestine)
Independence (Independence)
Kirtland (Kirtland)
Liberty (Youngstown)
Lutheran East (Cleveland Hts)
Mc Donald (Mcdonald)
Memorial (Campbell)
Mineral Ridge (Mineral Ridge)
Mogadore (Mogadore)
Norwayne (Creston)
Oberlin (Oberlin)
Pymatuning Valley (Andover)
Rootstown (Rootstown)
Smithville (Smithville)
Southern (Salineville)
Springfield (New Middletown)
Trinity Hs (Garfield Hts.)
United (Hanoverton)
Waterloo (Atwater)
Waynedale (Apple Creek)
Wellington (Wellington)
Western Reserve (Berlin Center)

There's the list of teams, the teams I think will be fighting for the playoff spots are:

Brookfield
Columbia Station
Columbiana
East Palestine
Independence
Kirtland
McDonald
Mogadore
Norwayne
Smithville
Springfield
Western Reserve
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Old 06-14-17, 08:42 AM
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EP will have to win their first two games in order to possibly make the playoffs. This new EOAC has no point potential other than maybe Columbiana, but that remains to be seen.
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Old 06-14-17, 02:11 PM
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EP will have to win their first two games in order to possibly make the playoffs. This new EOAC has no point potential other than maybe Columbiana, but that remains to be seen.
They'll be fine if they sweep through the EOAC, all those guaranteed points from conference games, plus a lot of the EOAC teams have favorable out of league schedules to where they can pick up wins. Given Columbiana's out of league schedule (I'm not sure how good they'll be without Davidson) they may not be worth many points compared to say Lisbon who should go 3-0 OOL

As for the region as a whole going in, if I had to power rank I'd go:
1: Kirtland
2/3: Norwayne/Mogadore
3-12: Rest of the playoff contenders listed above.
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Old 06-14-17, 04:48 PM
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They'll be fine if they sweep through the EOAC, all those guaranteed points from conference games, plus a lot of the EOAC teams have favorable out of league schedules to where they can pick up wins. Given Columbiana's out of league schedule (I'm not sure how good they'll be without Davidson) they may not be worth many points compared to say Lisbon who should go 3-0 OOL

As for the region as a whole going in, if I had to power rank I'd go:
1: Kirtland
2/3: Norwayne/Mogadore
3-12: Rest of the playoff contenders listed above.
You know more about this division 6 region than I do. I've been use to D4 and D5. I'd say United would be worth more on OOL since they carry Salem and Minerva.
If EP wins the first two against Salem and Perry, they should have no problem running the table in the EOAC. But, that remains to be seen.
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Old 06-14-17, 05:48 PM
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You know more about this division 6 region than I do. I've been use to D4 and D5. I'd say United would be worth more on OOL since they carry Salem and Minerva.
If EP wins the first two against Salem and Perry, they should have no problem running the table in the EOAC. But, that remains to be seen.
But United has to win those games for it to matter. This region has been tough to get into period the last handful of years. Since 2013 when they added the 7th division, only 5/16 (31%)of the 7-3 teams have qualified. You need 8-2 to feel confident about making it. Compared to the D5 region counterpart where 7-3 has gotten in 10-13 times in the same period.
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Old 06-14-17, 05:52 PM
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Liberty will compete for a playoff spot. They played well against some decent competition last season. Got killed against good teams but they are d6 and have the potential to pull off some quality wins.
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Old 06-14-17, 05:54 PM
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Liberty schedule

Struthers- loss

Lakeview - can win, won last year

Py valley- win

Brookfield/ Toss up can win

Campbell - win

Labrae- can win

Champion- win

Jefferson- can win

Newton falls- win

Girard- can win
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Old 06-14-17, 06:10 PM
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I will post the 8 team I want to make the playoffs from this region, in no order.

Cardinal
Kirtland
Mogadore
McDonald
Norwayne
Waynedale
Independence
Smithville
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Old 06-14-17, 06:22 PM
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I will post the 8 team I want to make the playoffs from this region, in no order.

Cardinal
Kirtland
Mogadore
McDonald
Norwayne
Waynedale
Independence
Smithville
Waynedale would be quite the turnaround given their 2016
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Old 06-15-17, 05:20 AM
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But United has to win those games for it to matter. This region has been tough to get into period the last handful of years. Since 2013 when they added the 7th division, only 5/16 (31%)of the 7-3 teams have qualified. You need 8-2 to feel confident about making it. Compared to the D5 region counterpart where 7-3 has gotten in 10-13 times in the same period.
Even 8-2 is not a guarantee in this region...it's brutal. Lisbon would have been on the bubble at 8-2 the last two years. Three years ago, we went 7-3 and finished 12th in the region. Same record would have gotten us in the playoffs in D5 easily...maybe even would have hosted like Crestview did that year.
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Old 06-15-17, 05:31 AM
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Even 8-2 is not a guarantee in this region...it's brutal. Lisbon would have been on the bubble at 8-2 the last two years. Three years ago, we went 7-3 and finished 12th in the region. Same record would have gotten us in the playoffs in D5 easily...maybe even would have hosted like Crestview did that year.
My point exactly. With the new EOAC, 9-1 or 10-0 will be needed.
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Old 06-15-17, 05:43 AM
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My point exactly. With the new EOAC, 9-1 or 10-0 will be needed.
Probably would have needed 8-2 or 9-1 with last years schedule to make the playoffs in R21.

Last year (as a D5) EP played 1 - D4, 2 - D5's, 4 - D6's & 3- D7's.

This year...only 5 schools smaller than EP, compared to 7 last year. Just a tougher region. Maybe you guys will get some larger classes coming through and get back up to D5 soon.

Salem, D4 still?
Perry, ??
Campbell, ??
United, D6
Wellsville, D7
Southern, D7
Leetonia, D7
Toronto, D7
Lisbon, D7
Columbiana, D6
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Old 06-15-17, 05:50 AM
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Probably would have needed 8-2 or 9-1 with last years schedule to make the playoffs in R21.

Last year (as a D5) EP played 1 - D4, 2 - D5's, 4 - D6's & 3- D7's.

This year...only 5 schools smaller than EP, compared to 7 last year. Just a tougher region. Maybe you guys will get some larger classes coming through and get back up to D5 soon.

Salem, D4 still?
Perry, ??
Campbell, ??
United, D6
Wellsville, D7
Southern, D7
Leetonia, D7
Toronto, D7
Lisbon, D7
Columbiana, D6
Larger classes? 160 is usually D5, but thanks to CB we are down here. Perry is D4 and Campbell is 6.
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Old 06-15-17, 11:31 AM
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Even 8-2 is not a guarantee in this region...it's brutal. Lisbon would have been on the bubble at 8-2 the last two years. Three years ago, we went 7-3 and finished 12th in the region. Same record would have gotten us in the playoffs in D5 easily...maybe even would have hosted like Crestview did that year.
Well no 8-2 has missed yet and Lisbon at 8-2 the past 2 years would have made it, but I agree if things break the right way an 8-2 could be left out. You are right about 2015, Lisbon would've been the 4 seed in D5 that year hosting. McDonald, who ended up 9th in 2015 would've made it as a 7 seed in D5 that year.

It'll be very interesting in that this year, McDonald, Reserve, Springfield, and Columbiana all play each other while Brookfield plays mcd and spr, so the results of those games will be a big factor on who makes it to week 11 and some of them will be de-facto elimination games.
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Old 06-16-17, 04:59 AM
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Well no 8-2 has missed yet and Lisbon at 8-2 the past 2 years would have made it, but I agree if things break the right way an 8-2 could be left out. You are right about 2015, Lisbon would've been the 4 seed in D5 that year hosting. McDonald, who ended up 9th in 2015 would've made it as a 7 seed in D5 that year..
I was basing it on the min/max two years ago. Beating Crestview locked us into the playoffs. If we would have lost, there was still a chance that Lisbon wouldn't have made it. It was just crazy to think that...

Region 21 is going to be fun to watch this year...again.
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Old 06-17-17, 03:14 PM
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Kirtland will be the favorite
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Old 06-17-17, 06:49 PM
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Well, those in the know above say Kirtland should be the definite favorite in this region. As a Marion Local fan, I'd LOVE to see a rematch at state. And yeah, ML will win region, even though Coldwater and a couple other "heavies" are now DVI. ML has FOUR, count 'em, FOUR state champs on their schedule!!! Whoever gets out of THAT region will be able to beat the baddest of the bad...good Lord, they should be able to beat freakin' WAYNE, and that's not much of an exaggeration! Kirtland, please make it out as #1...we need a rematch.
Please ignore this post, everyone. Thankfully, most ML fans aren't like this and know that whoever comes out of this region will be battle-tested and a tough out.
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Old 07-25-17, 12:05 PM
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Figured I'd bump this with the season approaching. Week 1 has a very nice slate of games for R21 contenders:

Kirtland vs Chagrin Falls: The Hornets handled Falls last year, but they are still playing up 3 divisions so it'll be a nice test for them

Springfield vs South Range: Springfield was the surprise of the region last year grabbing the 2 seed, and their big upset of archrival and 9-1 South Range was a catalyst.

Columbia station vs Independence: Last years meeting went to Columbia by 8 which got them in to the playoffs at 8-2 while 7-3 independence did not make it to week 11.

Brookfield vs McDonald: Both teams have been in the playoff hunt for years now and a win for either will be a nice step forward to getting back to week 11. Brookfield lost their all everything player in Bailey while McDonald returns an all everything back who as a sophomore totaled 1,200 total yards last year.

Columbiana vs Western Reserve: Columbiana has won back to back wild games over Reserve in week 1 (44-37 in 2015, 63-52 in 2016). The Clippers lose one of their greatest players in program history QB Mitch Davidson while Reserve returns a boatload of talent.

East Palestine vs Salem: EP was a D5 playoff team in 15 and last year finished 6-4. Have a very talented QB who has a wealth of experience. Salem is a decent D4 squad that could provide plenty of harbins

Liberty vs Struthers: Liberty was a 5-5 squad with some nice wins and equally confusing losses. If they can put it together they may be a threat to make it to the playoffs, a win over Struthers would be an enormous boost.
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Old 07-25-17, 02:11 PM
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As a MOGADORE fan I'm hoping the Wildcats continue making the playoffs. Just wish they had remained D7. I think everyone is overlooking Rootstown. Previously D5, they knocked off MOGADORE in the final regular season game last year and it was at MOGADORE. They have a fine now Junior class and return an explosive senior running back who sat last year with ACL. Could be an interesting year in D6 region 21!!
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Old 07-25-17, 02:43 PM
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As a MOGADORE fan I'm hoping the Wildcats continue making the playoffs. Just wish they had remained D7. I think everyone is overlooking Rootstown. Previously D5, they knocked off MOGADORE in the final regular season game last year and it was at MOGADORE. They have a fine now Junior class and return an explosive senior running back who sat last year with ACL. Could be an interesting year in D6 region 21!!
I think Mogadore will have no problem making the playoffs, I do not see them as any worse than an 8-2 squad this year unless there is a big talent drop-off from last year? I did completely overlook Rootstown and they likely will be in the playoff picture as well. Its going to be incredibly crowded with about 15 teams seriously in contention to make the playoffs.
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Old 07-25-17, 03:41 PM
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East Palestine vs Salem: EP was a D5 playoff team in 15 and last year finished 6-4. Have a very talented QB who has a wealth of experience. Salem is a decent D4 squad that could provide plenty of harbins.
If EP wins their first two games against Salem and Perry, it should be an easy task the rest of the season. EOAC isn't the ITCL red tier.
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Old 07-25-17, 04:51 PM
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If EP wins their first two games against Salem and Perry, it should be an easy task the rest of the season. EOAC isn't the ITCL red tier.
Winning those two games is indeed a tall task.
Win those and you might go undefeated.

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Old 07-25-17, 06:59 PM
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Winning those two games is indeed a tall task.
Win those and you might go undefeated.

Beating Salem is very realistic, the bulldogs did it last year. Perry on the other hand is a different story. Perry won an absolutely loaded region last year that included Mooney, NDCL, Woodridge, Struthers, Hubbard etc. unless that team was made up entirely of seniors last year I don't see the Dogs keeping that game close
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Old 07-25-17, 11:23 PM
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I don't see EP winning either game, very tough that early in the season
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Old 07-26-17, 03:28 AM
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I don't see EP winning either game, very tough that early in the season
You thought the same last season against Salem.
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Old 07-26-17, 03:37 AM
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I sure did, and EP came and brought it and got the W, I'm not going to base this year off of last year tho
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Old 07-26-17, 03:41 AM
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The teams EP beat last season had a combined 19 wins between 6 schools, they didn't beat a team with a winning record all season, they creeped by Salem week 1 last season 37-35, I don't see that happening again, also the teams with good records they played they got dismantled on all facets of the game, correct me if I'm wrong but weren't they blow outs?
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Old 07-26-17, 05:07 AM
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The teams EP beat last season had a combined 19 wins between 6 schools, they didn't beat a team with a winning record all season, they creeped by Salem week 1 last season 37-35, I don't see that happening again, also the teams with good records they played they got dismantled on all facets of the game, correct me if I'm wrong but weren't they blow outs?
Your point is?
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Old 07-26-17, 07:48 AM
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The point is why I think they lose the first 2 games
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Old 07-26-17, 09:27 AM
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Keep an eye on Trinity this season favorable schedule, senior laden and one of the Cleveland area's better RB's in Andrew Kenega. QB play was horrible earlier last season, but after the original starter got benched, Kevin McSweeney did a nice job- he is a also the teams leading tackler at MLB. They also got a handful of transfers who are eligible, should be a playoff team
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