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12-14-17, 08:00 PM
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All American
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Join Date: 05-19-03
Location: Land of Oz!
Posts: 1,396
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wisbey
He is from Kentucky and he is not worthy according to the Swocca seeding criteria. His state placement is equal to district placement for Ohio wrestlers. His win over the #1 seed Beachem last year at the same tournament does not matter. Mason took 3rd at state and Beachem also took 3rd. However Swocca counts KY state placement 2-8 the same as districts. The bracket will work itself out like it usually does.
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Correct and I look for Beachem to be the victor !
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12-14-17, 08:24 PM
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Varsity
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Join Date: 06-27-12
Posts: 55
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Beachem is tough as they come. Hopefully Mason Smith makes it to the semi and we get to see that rematch.
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12-14-17, 08:50 PM
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All District
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Join Date: 02-25-04
Location: Columbus
Posts: 131
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I'd bet pretty good money Mason Smith is there in the semis.... he has been right on the edge of the top 20 national rankings a few times.
He also beat Ryan Thomas at GMVWA last year in the finals....
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12-14-17, 08:56 PM
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Junior Varsity
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Join Date: 02-09-15
Posts: 43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cvwrestle
I'd bet pretty good money Mason Smith is there in the semis.... he has been right on the edge of the top 20 national rankings a few times.
He also beat Ryan Thomas at GMVWA last year in the finals....
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Did Mason Smith win coaches?
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12-14-17, 09:00 PM
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Varsity
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Join Date: 11-11-12
Posts: 51
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Mason hit the National Rankings after placing at FLO. Once football started he fell off.
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12-14-17, 09:02 PM
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Varsity
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Join Date: 11-11-12
Posts: 51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by statechampnever
Did Mason Smith win coaches?
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Lost in the finals to Evans 8-3
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12-14-17, 11:34 PM
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Varsity
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Join Date: 06-27-12
Posts: 55
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Josh Lowe
@JoshMLowe
5h5 hours ago
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SWOWCA potential highlights:
How does Ward (Moeller) look v Pietro & poss Ryan Moore
Overall depth at 170, I think Smith/Beachem is a semi that could go in a direction that some in SW OH would not expect (why that's a semi is beyond me too)
Solid overall depth at 220 & espec 285.
I guess a few people in Ohio think the seeding is a little bias based on Smith's resume.
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12-15-17, 04:04 AM
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All American
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Join Date: 11-14-02
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solid event
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12-15-17, 08:18 AM
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All American
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Join Date: 10-09-01
Posts: 1,510
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Can someone post the tournament schedule? What time are the finals expected to start on Sunday?
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12-15-17, 08:27 AM
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All Ohio
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Join Date: 04-04-11
Posts: 771
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TIME SCHEDULE FOR COACHES CLASSIC 2017 @ HARRISON HIGH SCHOOL
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Saturday, Dec 16th, 2017
7:00 am start checking in by team.
8:00 am weigh-ins by team
9:30 am start
Preliminary round on all 6 mats. Approx 3 hrs
2:00 pm
Start 2nd round championship along with 1st consolation. Approx 3 hrs.
Championship bouts on mats 4 / 5 / 6
Consolation bouts on mats 1 / 2 / 3
5:30 pm
Start 2nd consolation on all 6 mats. Approx 1.5 hrs
7:00 pm
3rd round championship
8:30 pm
3rd & 4th round consolation
After 3rd round championship
Weigh-outs begin for those wrestlers that are finished for the day
Sunday, December 17th, 2017
8:30 am
Weigh-ins for any wrestler failing to make weight on Saturday night & mandatory skin check!
9:30 am
Semi-finals on mats 1 / 2 / 3
5th round consolation on mats 4 / 5 / 6
11:30 am
Consolation semi-finals on mats 1 & 2
7th place finals bouts on mats 3 & 4
2:00 pm - FINALS
Award Ceremony
National Anthem
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12-15-17, 09:32 AM
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All District
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Join Date: 03-14-10
Posts: 223
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wisbey
Josh Lowe
@JoshMLowe
5h5 hours ago
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SWOWCA potential highlights:
How does Ward (Moeller) look v Pietro & poss Ryan Moore
Overall depth at 170, I think Smith/Beachem is a semi that could go in a direction that some in SW OH would not expect (why that's a semi is beyond me too)
Solid overall depth at 220 & espec 285.
I guess a few people in Ohio think the seeding is a little bias based on Smith's resume.
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Ward/Pietro/Moore will be a great battle. Excited for this one.
With ties to Ohio and KY wrestling, it's easy to see the bias from one side to the other. However with the leaps and bounds made by KY wrestling over the last few years I think there is enough evidence to credibly adjust the seeding criteria. Top 3 should be equal to top 3. I don't suggest all placements be equal, because as KY has gotten much much better, they still lack the depth that Ohio has. Typically after top 3 it can be a crap shoot. Some weight classes are tougher than others just like in any state as well as luck of the draw. 170 is a great example, Mason is a stud, as well as Beachem, but this should be the finals, not Semi's (if it were to happen because we all know anything can happen). Criteria is criteria and it is what it is, and I know we all strive to make these tournaments the best we can, and this is just my old 2 cents worth. Semi's for this class on both sides of the bracket will be a show for sure.
There is a big difference in seeding at Coaches and GMVWA, and the depth is apparent at GMVWA because they match them placement for placement. But typically I would say top 3 are top 3 material. I voiced my opinion to the SWOWCA GOD about this last year and this year. However since I am out of coaching, I'm just another nagger to the ole' Pres of SWOWCA  
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12-15-17, 11:29 AM
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All American
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Join Date: 01-26-14
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 1,148
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Beware of the land mines/ unseeded freshmen like Austin Mullins, Wayne.
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12-15-17, 11:53 AM
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All Ohio
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Join Date: 08-13-09
Location: Ross Ohio
Posts: 684
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Quote:
Originally Posted by darthmalice
Beware of the land mines/ unseeded freshmen like Austin Mullins, Wayne.
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I feel like the brackets are riddled with unseeded landmines. Not that they will win it all per se but def capable of knocking off many of the seeded wrestlers. That's what makes this so fun.
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12-15-17, 04:10 PM
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All World
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Join Date: 09-18-01
Location: Cincinnati
Posts: 3,360
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Where can I find brackets?
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12-15-17, 04:31 PM
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All World
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Join Date: 09-18-01
Location: Cincinnati
Posts: 3,360
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Campolongo
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Excellent, ty sir.
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12-16-17, 04:59 AM
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All American
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Join Date: 01-26-14
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 1,148
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Last second thoughts about prelime seeding:
@220 didn't see Trevor Hankins, Moeller?
@285 Padilla, Wayne and Charette, Centerville both SQ's seeded 5 & 6 behind Heyob, St. X?
@152 Weichers, Centerville & Weathersby, Elder both SA's at 6 & 8?
I know after weigh ins, prelim seeding will not be the same but was wondering since @220 Cochran, Springfield is 1 and McCloud, Elder 2.
This is going to be the Ironman of the D1 southwest district; great weekend of wrestling.
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12-16-17, 02:51 PM
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Varsity
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Join Date: 01-07-17
Posts: 79
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Quote:
Originally Posted by darthmalice
Beware of the land mines/ unseeded freshmen like Austin Mullins, Wayne.
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Good call. Lipps tried a double-over throw and got stuck.
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12-16-17, 03:00 PM
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All American
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Join Date: 10-22-06
Location: My front porch
Posts: 1,893
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I wonder when they will post the brackets.
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12-16-17, 03:34 PM
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All District
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Join Date: 12-01-09
Posts: 215
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pantherontheporch
I wonder when they will post the brackets.
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Please let them know weigh-ins are completed.
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12-16-17, 07:02 PM
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Varsity
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Join Date: 11-11-12
Posts: 51
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Looks like Ryle has an 8th grader advancing to the semifinals.
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12-16-17, 07:13 PM
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All American
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Join Date: 10-22-06
Location: My front porch
Posts: 1,893
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With the SikorSoft system, what does it mean on the live bout board when a wrestler's rectangle is red or yellow? Thanks in advance.
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12-16-17, 07:44 PM
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All American
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Join Date: 01-26-14
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 1,148
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pantherontheporch
With the SikorSoft system, what does it mean on the live bout board when a wrestler's rectangle is red or yellow? Thanks in advance.
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Red for blood time. A lot of that happening today.
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12-16-17, 09:43 PM
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All District
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Join Date: 12-01-09
Posts: 215
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Does anyone know why match 973 Fairfield vs Sycamore at 160 lbs is not showing the result? Did that match get wrestled tonight.
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12-16-17, 09:55 PM
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All American
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Join Date: 01-26-14
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 1,148
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Quote:
Originally Posted by graceunder
Does anyone know why match 973 Fairfield vs Sycamore at 160 lbs is not showing the result? Did that match get wrestled tonight.
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5 match rule ( Sycamore wrestler); the match will be contested Sunday.
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12-17-17, 07:31 AM
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All American
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Join Date: 01-26-14
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 1,148
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Quick break down of the tourney:
1.Elder- 151.5pts ( 7 of 12 in semi)
2.Harrison- 118pts ( 6 of 7 in semi)
3.Marysville- 114pts ( 4 of 6 in semi)
4.Fairfield- 112pts ( 4 of 6 in semi)
5.Butler- 101pts ( 4 of 6 in semi)
*key head to head: 113 semi ( FF. vs But)
126 semi ( Eld vs Har)
152 semi ( Eld vs Har)
170 semi ( Har vs Mary)
285 semi ( Eld vs Mary)
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12-17-17, 02:15 PM
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All American
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Join Date: 04-28-08
Location: Loveland Ohio
Posts: 1,272
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Champion Predictions
106 - Doepker
113 - Shupp
120 - Gentry
126 - Thomas
132 - Ward
138 - Fuqua
145 - Mullins
152 - Heard
160 - Murphy
170 - Beachem
182 - Dewitt
195 - Thompson
220 - McCloud
285 - Morre-Nash
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12-17-17, 02:18 PM
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All District
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Join Date: 09-22-15
Posts: 155
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Where was Sam Wyche from moeller and Drew Wiechers from Centerville at?
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12-17-17, 02:18 PM
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All Region
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Join Date: 02-23-15
Location: SW
Posts: 278
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Danimal Dan
Champion Predictions
106 - Doepker
113 - Shupp
120 - Gentry
126 - Thomas
132 - Ward
138 - Fuqua
145 - Mullins
152 - Heard
160 - Murphy
170 - Beachem
182 - Dewitt
195 - Thompson
220 - McCloud
285 - Morre-Nash
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Looks pretty accurate, but I'd go with Huff at 6. Besides that I agree
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12-17-17, 09:12 PM
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All Ohio
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Join Date: 04-04-11
Posts: 771
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Complete brackets
http://thepaperlesstourney.com/swowc...llBrackets.pdf
Large school division
Champ: Elder
Runner-up: Fairfield
Small school division
Champ: Harrison
Runner-up: Butler
OW: Schupp (Fairfield)
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