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11-29-17, 10:35 AM
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All American
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Join Date: 11-11-09
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Originally Posted by Summa
Look at the reported attendance numbers from the OHSAA for the past 10 years or so for football and basketball. The difference between privates and publics as far as attendance is negligible. Anyone believing otherwise is living in a bubble because the actual numbers don't support the fallacy.
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Never seen a private crowd outnumber a public crowd. Literally never. But, sure man, whatever you say!
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11-29-17, 10:35 AM
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All American
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Join Date: 11-11-09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Summa
How can someone be a former relative?
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Divorce
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11-29-17, 10:44 AM
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All American
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Join Date: 03-30-08
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Originally Posted by Journey
Divorce
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I was thinking blood relatives but you are correct. Then again, we are talking about Bellville so I assume divorcees are also blood relatives.
Last edited by Summa; 11-29-17 at 12:07 PM.
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11-29-17, 11:19 AM
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All American
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Join Date: 03-30-08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Journey
Never seen a private crowd outnumber a public crowd. Literally never. But, sure man, whatever you say!
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I have.
I don't have time to go through all the divisions but again the differences are negligible.
The public v. public and private v. private D1 football state championship games since 2000:
2000: Upper Arlington v. Solon - 13,857
2003: Elder v. St. Edward - 19,767
2004: Colerain v. McKinley - 16,885
2006: Hilliard Davidson v. Mentor: 12,621
2008: St. Ignatius v. Elder: No reported attendance by OHSAA
2009: Hilliard Davidson v. Glenville: 9,845
2016: St. Xavier v. St. Ignatius: 13,690
Basketball D1, public v. public and private v. private since 2000:
2001: St. Ignatius v. Elder - 15,670
2002: Brookhaven v. Winton Woods - 14,702
2006: McKinley v. Trotwood Madison - 15, 531
2007: Moeller v. St. Xavier - 14,307
2009: Northland v. Princeton - 12,104
2012: Pickerington v. Whitmer - 9,600
2013: Mentor v. Rodgers - 9,566
2015: Wayne v. Westerville South - 10,664
2016: Westerville South v. Lima - 13,457
Last edited by Summa; 12-01-17 at 11:17 AM.
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11-29-17, 11:44 AM
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All District
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Join Date: 08-15-17
Location: your mom's basement
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Happens all the time down here in GCL country
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11-29-17, 11:47 AM
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All American
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Join Date: 01-28-13
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Originally Posted by Sykotyk
Any drop in revenue may change how they do things. Maybe stop renting out neutral sites. Maybe add even MORE playoff games to up their money intake. Cut downs on travel expenses by going to 'closest teams play' rather than the seeded #1 through #8.
Just because OHSAA has a sizable reserve doesn't mean they're apt to tap into it if there's no signs they'll ever replenish it.
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Wait, so you are suggesting that somehow they wouldn't have enough money to have the current playoffs? Renting out neutral sites? what does that mean? they don't rent them, they get paid to allow schools to host games. Sounds like baseless speculation.
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11-29-17, 12:02 PM
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All World
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Join Date: 10-12-06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Journey
Never seen a private crowd outnumber a public crowd. Literally never. But, sure man, whatever you say!
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Now is the publics' chance to demonstrate this. You have what you wanted - pretty much an all-public finals. No excuses this time.
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11-29-17, 12:10 PM
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All District
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Join Date: 08-15-17
Location: your mom's basement
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Journey
Never seen a private crowd outnumber a public crowd. Literally never. But, sure man, whatever you say!
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Hey Steve Perry, you obviously have never been to a DI high school football game Elder, St. X, Moeller and even DII LaSalle almost always out draw the Publics they play.
But don't stop believing, man!
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11-29-17, 12:28 PM
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All American
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Join Date: 10-07-13
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Originally Posted by superduper
Hey Steve Perry, you obviously have never been to a DI high school football game
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He's used to D-III DeSales bringing parents and about 50 alumni/fans to a round one playoff blowout over Dover the week after they overstuff 9000 into Quaker Stadium for that long-running rivalry game between two crap teams.
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11-29-17, 12:45 PM
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All American
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I’ve been TO DeSales in week 11 where they were outnumbered 3-1 crowd wise with a 2+ hour drive for the visitors.
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11-29-17, 01:22 PM
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All American
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Join Date: 10-07-13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Journey
I’ve been TO DeSales in week 11 where they were outnumbered 3-1 crowd wise with a 2+ hour drive for the visitors.
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They're a soccer school now. They haven't won a football title since a Federal League team did. And most of their football alumni were probably officiating games somewhere else that night.
Catholics do tend to get complacent about success. Hartley didn't even have a student pit at the regional championship game this season which is pretty sad.
The smaller schools just don't have the deranged alumni turning out in masses like the Big 6. Alter vs Hartley in last years' state semifinal could have put everyone comfortably in half the visitor section. Probably more people in the prison down the street.
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11-29-17, 04:30 PM
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All Region
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Join Date: 12-14-13
Location: The Land of Love
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Originally Posted by Eagle_62
I was going to be quite rude to you but then I realized Canton and Benson stadium would be better off without you tracking up our town and new stadium with your $hit covered cowboy boots.
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No kidding. Belleville is where I stop for a bathroom break on my way to college football in the Canton area!!!
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11-29-17, 04:36 PM
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All Region
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Summa
How can someone be a former relative? Are they dead?
I assumed correctly everyone in Bellville was related.
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Can you really not read? The article was about the fact that so many are dying to get out Stark county that they ran out of room in the morgue.
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11-29-17, 04:39 PM
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All Region
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Join Date: 07-10-08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eagle_62
I was going to be quite rude to you but then I realized Canton and Benson stadium would be better off without you tracking up our town and new stadium with your $hit covered cowboy boots.
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Aww does it hurt your feelings that your town is the brown stain on the mattress?
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11-29-17, 04:40 PM
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All Region
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Join Date: 07-10-08
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Originally Posted by tiger56dad
No kidding. Belleville is where I stop for a bathroom break on my way to college football in the Canton area!!!
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Yeah all that great college football they play in Canton. Sounds fun.
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11-29-17, 04:46 PM
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All Region
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Join Date: 12-14-13
Location: The Land of Love
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Originally Posted by coltfan76
Yeah all that great college football they play in Canton. Sounds fun.
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There’s some D2 football there - I’m proud of it. Haven’t seen any games in Belleville (the exit does have nice bathrooms though)!
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11-29-17, 04:49 PM
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All Region
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Originally Posted by tiger56dad
There’s some D2 football there - I’m proud of it. Haven’t seen any games in Belleville (the exit does have nice bathrooms though)!
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Your proud of something you go watch? Let me guess, your kid plays and you live vicariously through him.
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11-29-17, 04:52 PM
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All Region
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Join Date: 12-14-13
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Originally Posted by coltfan76
Your proud of something you go watch? Let me guess, your kid plays and you live vicariously through him.
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You got the first part right!! Second part is Funny. Now stop trolling me.
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11-29-17, 05:01 PM
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All Region
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tiger56dad
You got the first part right!! Second part is Funny. Now stop trolling me.
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I see now. Your kid couldn't go big time so you sent him to a d2 school so you could live on. That's cool. I'm sure while you're sitting around tonight at Phil's tavern drowning your brain on Miller Lite, you can say "Muh boy plays college football!" That's great for you
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11-29-17, 05:04 PM
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All World
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Quote:
Originally Posted by coltfan76
I see now. Your kid couldn't go big time so you sent him to a d2 school so you could live on. That's cool. I'm sure while you're sitting around tonight at Phil's tavern drowning your brain on Miller Lite, you can say "Muh boy plays college football!" That's great for you
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Playing d2 football and getting your education paid for seems pretty great to me.
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11-29-17, 05:11 PM
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All Region
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Join Date: 12-14-13
Location: The Land of Love
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Originally Posted by murphy13
Playing d2 football and getting your education paid for seems pretty great to me.
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You’re wasting breath.
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11-29-17, 05:15 PM
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All Yappi
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Join Date: 07-17-07
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I'd like to see the renovations but that is just too far to go with my team not playimg
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11-29-17, 10:31 PM
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All American
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Fine - stay home.
This is the best venue for Ohio championships this year and moving forward.
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11-30-17, 12:05 AM
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All Yappi
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Join Date: 08-31-03
Location: Warren, OH
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Originally Posted by D4fan
Up. Change of venue, good weather, good economy and most of all almost no private schools ( public community schools travel better).
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Eh... The OHSAA record book suggests otherwise. The nine highest attended state title games ever featured at least 1 private school...
OHSAA State Championship Game... Attendance Records
1. 1982 Cincinnati Archbishop Moeller 35, Massillon Washington 14
@ Ohio Stadium, Columbus... 31,409 (a.)
2. 1973 Youngstown Cardinal Mooney 14, Warren Western Reserve 3
@ Akron Rubber Bowl... 29,720
3. 1980 Cincinnati Archbishop Moeller 30, Massillon Washington 7
@ Nippert Stadium, Cincinnati... 22,751
4. 2002 Cincinnati Elder 21, Warren G. Harding 19
@ Canton Fawcett Stadium... 20,328
5. 1981 Canton McKinley 13, Cincinnati Archbishop Moeller 0
@ Akron Rubber Bowl... 20,325
6. 2003 Cincinnati Elder 31, Lakewood St. Edward 7
@ Canton Fawcett Stadium... 19,816
7. 2005 Cincinnati St. Xavier 24, Massillon Washington 17
@ Canton Fawcett Stadium... 19,781
8. 2001 Cleveland St. Ignatius 37, Cincinnati St. Xavier 6
@ Canton Fawcett Stadium... 19,129
9. 1989 Cleveland St. Ignatius 34, Cincinnati Archbishop Moeller 28
@ Ohio Stadium, Columbus... 17,667
10. 1974 Warren Harding 41, Upper Arlington 8
@ Akron Rubber Bowl... 17,546
The '02 Elder-WGH game was played in a blizzard. In fact, it took us around 3 hours to get back to Warren, which is only about an hour trip in regular weather. I could only imagine how long it took to get back to Cincy. Unfortunately for me, Elder's trek back home was well worth it. They have great fans.
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11-30-17, 06:29 AM
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All Ohio
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Join Date: 07-26-16
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^^^
My wife had gone to Youngstown to her parents home while I went to the Marion Pleasant and Smithville D5 championship game. After the game I joined her. She had brought our two doxies with her to play with her Mom and Dad's doxie. Her two brothers-in-law and I were going to go back to the D1 game that night, but opted out because of the weather. I opted to head home on Sunday with the dogs and she would stay until the weather was a bit better. As I came across to 71 there was an accident close to the intersection that was going to snarl traffic. I was familiar with the area so I turned south on State route 3 heading down to 30. I found it amusing to go past parking lots and store fronts and see people in cars with road maps spread out in the front seat looking for how to get further south. (before the day of GPS)
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11-30-17, 06:45 AM
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All American
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Why would anyone go to the game to see the stadium renovations? When you're watching the game what possible difference could that make, except that the ticket cost more and the concessions cost more?
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11-30-17, 07:16 AM
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All World
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Join Date: 11-08-09
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Originally Posted by chs1971
Why would anyone go to the game to see the stadium renovations? When you're watching the game what possible difference could that make, except that the ticket cost more and the concessions cost more?
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Really? I don't know. Why do you go to any other place to see it? It's a tourist attraction. It's more than just renovations to the stadium.
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11-30-17, 07:56 AM
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All American
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Join Date: 11-29-05
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For what it's worth, Winton Woods cancelled classes for today and tomorrow so that students and staff would not be burdened by trying to get to and from the game within the constraints of the school day.
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11-30-17, 08:03 AM
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Junior Varsity
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Join Date: 08-09-17
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If the Columbus crew leave or build a new stadium I wonder what will happen to the old stadium. If turf could be put in at crew stadium and someone with the $$ like Ohio state or whoever owns the fairgrounds could buy it or rent it as it would be a perfect place to hold big games throughout the year and put in bids to host multiple playoff games. The stadium is much more intimate and they could use it for OSU soccer, lacrosse, field hockey, etc and make Ohio stadium exclusive for football. They could host special games on Thursday Friday and Saturdays. easy to get to and plenty of parking and centrally located! Probably makes too much sense though
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11-30-17, 08:24 AM
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All American
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Join Date: 07-30-16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Egret
Really? ... It's a tourist attraction.
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