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Old 10-31-17, 07:15 AM
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I guessing tryouts start this week or next week. Any ideas how this team will look. Mosley will be hard to replace.
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Old 10-31-17, 07:57 AM
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I think they can be improved from last year...maybe getting to 12-13 wins in the regular season would seem reasonable. From what I remember from last year from Varsity and JV, Moeller will still be top dog, St X had a decent JV team, so they should be OK, and LaSalle should be alright. We're likely 3rd, maybe 2nd in the GCL is my guess, but who knows. This team may surprise us. I don't think anyone takes over the Moeller basketball factory.

I'm hoping there's finally some emphasis on more offense over defense. I understand defense is at the heart of the GCL, but there has to be more than 1-2 offensive threats on the floor. Harp needs some help - you can't expect him to get 25 every game, especially when you know he will be the emphasis of other team's defense. You just can't beat good teams like that. They won't have a ton of size either, so spreading it around to multiple threats will be key.

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Old 10-31-17, 12:53 PM
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It's pretty much a certainty, Moe runs the table. I honestly don't know how good X or LS will be. LS lost both Flemming and his son plus Crigler. X was awful and lost their best player in Keyes, but their JV was very good.

I do believe the backcourt of Estep, Harp, and Marsh will be pretty good. However, I'm not sure where they get any Frontcourt points. They had size last yr on the Frosh team with Kandra and James, but both those kids are potential D1 Linemen. There's no guarantee they even play again.
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Old 10-31-17, 02:27 PM
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I think they will be entering tourney time a better team than last year's team, but it will take some time filling the Mosley void. I think this squad will have more shooters than last year and probably fight for a GCL title.
Although I have heard that Joe and his staff have raised their expectation for Harp to 30 points a game and want him taking 2 out of every 3 shots. They have told everyone else to know their roll.
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Old 10-31-17, 02:34 PM
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They will surprise a lot of people IMO. I think this team will run and press a lot nore than they have in recent years. Harp will be very good and the role players are solid as well. I may have unrealistic expectations but with their schedule I see them at 15-7 depending on the difficulty of the Florida tourney and the team from NY they play.

As for GCL play:

1) Moe (nobody is close to them in the city sans Princeton)

2) X
3) Elder ...... X will be improved immensely too. I could see them both going 3-3 in GCL play


4) LaSalle..... Some football guys aren't playing and they were going to be down anyway. Fleming knew what he was doing by leaving after last year.
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Old 10-31-17, 02:47 PM
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Totally agree with JElder. I think St X will be much improved and in the next 2-3 years will be really good. No one is competing with Moeller this year in GCL even though McBride is out
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Old 10-31-17, 02:50 PM
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I agree with you Jelder, 15 wins is not unrealistic. This team should be suited for a full court game with more transition points?
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Old 10-31-17, 02:52 PM
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Totally agree with JElder. I think St X will be much improved and in the next 2-3 years will be really good. No one is competing with Moeller this year in GCL even though McBride is out
How long is Mcbride out for?
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Old 10-31-17, 03:13 PM
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Although I have heard that Joe and his staff have raised their expectation for Harp to 30 points a game and want him taking 2 out of every 3 shots. They have told everyone else to know their roll.
I assume this is sarcasm. Hardy har
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Old 10-31-17, 07:59 PM
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McBride is out at least until February,maybe all year
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Old 10-31-17, 09:58 PM
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McBride is out at least until February,maybe all year
They still would likely run through the GCL with Pfriem and Payton in the backcourt.
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Old 11-01-17, 01:21 PM
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McBride is out at least until February,maybe all year
I would be shocked if he came back at all since he still has another year left. Not worth the risk IMO. They have enough talent to win state with or without him.
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Old 11-03-17, 11:14 AM
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I would be shocked if he came back at all since he still has another year left. Not worth the risk IMO. They have enough talent to win state with or without him.
The Pfriem transfer is huge. Bc he's coming from Bacon, he doesn't even have to sit out.
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Old 11-10-17, 09:48 AM
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Are tryouts still going on?
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Old 11-10-17, 05:15 PM
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Yes, and I’m pretty sure the first scrimmage is tomorrow.
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Old 11-16-17, 09:03 AM
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I see the post for the freshman roster, do we know the varsity roster yet? Any surprises?
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Old 11-16-17, 09:58 AM
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Seems to be a secret.
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Old 11-22-17, 12:59 PM
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Varsity Roster:
Harp 6'3 Sr
Marsh 6'2 Sr
Estep 6'2 Sr
Nieman 6'5 Sr
Broxterman 6'5 Sr
Obrien 6'0 Jr
Austing 6'1 Jr
Bittner 6'1 Jr
Beck 5'8 Jr
Byrne 6'0 Jr
Holmes 6'4 Jr
Trischler 5'10 Jr
Wall 6'0 Jr
Luebbe 5'11 So
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Old 11-22-17, 01:04 PM
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Jv:
Cluxton
Keyes
Royer
Kandra
Byrne
Domenicone
Merz
Corey
Engelhardt
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Old 11-22-17, 01:26 PM
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JV only has 9 kids? Or is it because there are guys playing both JV and Varsity?

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Old 11-22-17, 01:44 PM
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Varsity Roster:
Harp 6'3 Sr
Marsh 6'2 Sr
Estep 6'2 Sr
Nieman 6'5 Sr
Broxterman 6'5 Sr
Obrien 6'0 Jr
Austing 6'1 Jr
Bittner 6'1 Jr
Beck 5'8 Jr
Byrne 6'0 Jr
Holmes 6'4 Jr
Trischler 5'10 Jr
Wall 6'0 Jr
Luebbe 5'11 So
That's a very talented backcourt, but they cannot be too heavily reliant on Harp to do all the scoring. Marsh showed flashes of being a solid outside shooter and Estep is very good on the drive and a decent ball handler.

However, the difference b/w a good and avg to below avg season will be the play of Broxterman and Holmes. If they can get scoring from their big guys, they'll be in good shape.

Overall, I think this team could be surprisingly good, similar to the 2013-2014 team, maybe not with quite as impressive of a record, but a team that can win 4 GCL games and maybe win 2-3 Tournament games.
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Old 11-22-17, 01:46 PM
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JV only has 9 kids?
I was thinking the same thing. I'm sure Luebbe will play JV with the option to hold him out and play Varsity. Maybe Walker sees some time on JV?
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Old 11-22-17, 01:48 PM
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I was thinking the same thing. I'm sure Luebbe will play JV with the option to hold him out and play Varsity. Maybe Walker sees some time on JV?
I think both scenarios are possible. I'm sure they'll start Walker off playing Frosh and if he plays well enough, they'll bump him up.
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Old 11-24-17, 10:15 PM
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Did anyone attend any of the scrimmages? Curious how they looked.
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Old 11-24-17, 10:21 PM
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All three teams scrimmaged Holmes today.
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Old 11-25-17, 02:34 PM
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All three teams scrimmaged Holmes today.
I know, I'm curious how Varsity looked.
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Old 11-27-17, 11:35 AM
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Doesn't seem to be much knowledge around basketball this year. I don't know if that's a good or bad thing. Guess we'll find out this weekend.

For entertainment purposes, I hope they play more uptempo, but I doubt it.
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They don't have the athletes to play uptempo. Their best player is a jump shooter who is best coming off Screens or in set plays.
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Old 11-27-17, 12:46 PM
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I know...but what the hell.

They really don't have anything to lose. But I know it will never happen. Would probably be more entertaining to watch.
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That is such a blindingly moronic statement, I don't know how to respond. And GCL basketball is a terrible brand, but winning means more than style.
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