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Old 07-27-17, 04:02 PM
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17 Sports Teams Losing Fans in the Last Decade

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17. Washington Redskins
> 10 yr. attendance change: -10.6%
> Sport: Football
> Avg. home game attendance: 78,304
> Avg. capacity filled: 85.4%

16. Cleveland Browns
> 10 yr. attendance change: -11.1%
> Sport: Football
> Avg. home game attendance: 64,311
> Avg. capacity filled: 87.9%

15. Cincinnati Reds
> 10 yr. attendance change: -11.3%
> Sport: Baseball
> Avg. home game attendance: 23,383
> Avg. capacity filled: 55.3%

14. Los Angeles Angels
> 10 yr. attendance change: -11.5%
> Sport: Baseball
> Avg. home game attendance: 37,236
> Avg. capacity filled: 82.7%

13. San Diego Padres
> 10 yr. attendance change: -11.6%
> Sport: Baseball
> Avg. home game attendance: 29,029
> Avg. capacity filled: 72.3%

12. Arizona Coyotes
> 10 yr. attendance change: -12.6%
> Sport: Hockey
> Avg. home game attendance: 13,094
> Avg. capacity filled: 76.5%

11. Ottawa Senators
> 10 yr. attendance change: -13.6%
> Sport: Hockey
> Avg. home game attendance: 16,744
> Avg. capacity filled: 87.4%

10. Denver Nuggets
> 10 yr. attendance change: -14.3%
> Sport: Basketball
> Avg. home game attendance: 14,770
> Avg. capacity filled: 77.1%

9. Colorado Avalanche
> 10 yr. attendance change: -15.8%
> Sport: Hockey
> Avg. home game attendance: 14,835
> Avg. capacity filled: 82.4%

8. Cleveland Indians
> 10 yr. attendance change: -20.3%
> Sport: Baseball
> Avg. home game attendance: 19,650
> Avg. capacity filled: 55.8%

7. Atlanta Braves
> 10 yr. attendance change: -21.7%
> Sport: Baseball
> Avg. home game attendance: 24,949
> Avg. capacity filled: 50.3%

6. Oakland Athletics
> 10 yr. attendance change: -23.0%
> Sport: Baseball
> Avg. home game attendance: 18,784
> Avg. capacity filled: 53.6%

5. Houston Astros
> 10 yr. attendance change: -23.7%
> Sport: Baseball
> Avg. home game attendance: 28,476
> Avg. capacity filled: 68.3%

4. Detroit Pistons
> 10 yr. attendance change: -27.6%
> Sport: Basketball
> Avg. home game attendance: 15,979
> Avg. capacity filled: 72.4%

3. Philadelphia Phillies
> 10 yr. attendance change: -30.9%
> Sport: Baseball
> Avg. home game attendance: 23,643
> Avg. capacity filled: 54.2%

2. Carolina Hurricanes
> 10 yr. attendance change: -32.3%
> Sport: Hockey
> Avg. home game attendance: 11,776
> Avg. capacity filled: 63%

1. Chicago White Sox
> 10 yr. attendance change: -40.2%
> Sport: Baseball
> Avg. home game attendance: 21,828
> Avg. capacity filled: 53.7%
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Old 07-27-17, 04:04 PM
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Cavs will probably join that list in a year or so and give Cleveland the tri-fecta.
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Cavs will probably join that list in a year or so and give Cleveland the tri-fecta.
https://blogredmachine.com/2017/05/0...tendance-woes/




How long ago did the NBA ditch Cincinasty ?

Do you see the Bungles winning an NFL playoff game THIS year ? The Clowns have a more recent playoff win. Maybe that would sell a few more season tix. How's that ginger SS/QB doing ?



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weirdo's upset Cleveland is soon to have 3 on this list.
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He loves to bring up Cincy doesn't have an NBA team lol


With the way other Cincy teams are ran I'm glad there isn't one
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weirdo's upset Cleveland is soon to have 3 on this list.
http://scout.com/mlb/cardinals/Board...dance-54732577





#6 in the search "reds attendance 2017"
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#6 in the search "reds attendance 2017"
Hilarious?
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Old 07-28-17, 12:42 AM
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Pretty happy to not have an NBA team. Cleveland is trash
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Hilarious?
Cards fans pizzing on the Reds ? I find that pretty funny.
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Old 07-28-17, 07:19 AM
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So goof you posted if twice.

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9 are baseball teams... no surprise there

4 NHL, 2 NBA and 2 NFL.
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Cavs will probably join that list in a year or so and give Cleveland the tri-fecta.
Last time Lebron left it dropped from 20K to 16K. That's still 80% of capacity.

2 years later with him gone it had already rebounded to over 17K a game

Keep in mind, different leagues count attendance in different ways. In some leagues it even varies from team to team.

It used to be they most teams/leagues counted how many times the turnstiles spun, for most now it's ticket sales but not all.

That's why many times you hear crazy numbers announced compared to the crowd you see.

In fact many teams are trying to figure out a way to combat this trend.

Also the title of the thread is misleading. Attendance being down doesn't necessarily mean less fans.

The Steelers have had issues with fans showing up for years, and no one is questioning their fan base. More and more season ticket holders across sports get season tickets just to ensure playoff tickets. They don't go to all the regular season games and can't always sell them.

Oh yeah, and Cincinnati is a dump.
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Old 07-28-17, 07:51 AM
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Reds have beat the Indians in attendance eight straight years. Indians were in the WS last year and were still pulling in 15,000 some nights.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/t...N/attend.shtml
https://www.baseball-reference.com/t...E/attend.shtml
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Reds have beat the Indians in attendance eight straight years. Indians were in the WS last year and were still pulling in 15,000 some nights.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/t...N/attend.shtml
https://www.baseball-reference.com/t...E/attend.shtml
Indians attendance has been lousy for a long time.

Actually shocked to see they are pretty even so far this year.... 25th and 26th in the league.

Neither is anything to be proud of.
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Old 07-28-17, 08:29 AM
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It's weird, considering the Indians were the poster-child for attendance all through the 90s.
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Surprised to see two Denver franchises on the list considering how hot Denver is as a metro right now. I guess it's all sprawl.

Baseball is becoming a lost cause. Fox would be better off showing AAU basketball on Sunday afternoons over the Blue Jays and Orioles.
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Old 07-28-17, 08:53 AM
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Columbus and Cincinnati have only one major league sports franchise a piece.

Minor league cities. Sad.
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Ey, obfdb, and Weirdo post sad rebuttals. No surprise.
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It's weird, considering the Indians were the poster-child for attendance all through the 90s.
Not that surprising really. The team didn't draw that well until they got out of the old stadium following the '93 season. After that, '94 - '99 was a perfect storm for the Indians:

- New ballpark (42,000 capacity) with all the amenities that was a complete 180 from the monstrosity they used to play in (roughly 80,000 capacity).

- Acquired a couple veterans to show they meant business (Eddie Murray and Dennis Martinez).

- Young players matured into some of the best players in the league (Lofton, Belle, Baerga, and later Thome and Ramirez).

- The team contended on an annual basis. They were only 1 game out of first when the '94 strike began (in position to be the wildcard at the time), and they made the playoffs every year from '95-'99.

- Owner Dick Jacobs was willing to spend money beyond the first year in the new ballpark.

- The city had a Cavs franchise that was good but had no stars worth dropping everything to watch.

- No Browns from '96-'98.

Attendance began to tank when Jacobs sold the team to the Dolans whose philosophy has generally been "we'll spend money after we make money." Jacobs was more of a "spend money to make money" owner. Those days are long gone. Baseball isn't as driven by ticket revenue as it was 20 years ago.
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It's weird, considering the Indians were the poster-child for attendance all through the 90s.
This has been discussed ad nauseam


what helped that most was the Browns being gone and the Cavs being below average.

lots of extra income in sports fans pockets
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It's weird, considering the Indians were the poster-child for attendance all through the 90s.
The truth is, there was no NFL in town because they totally rebuilt the new stadium on the old site. Jacobs put a great roster together at the right time.

The City's original plan was to put a dual football/baseball dome where Jacob's Field is now. Art said NO! because he would have lost 11k seats. Then he got jealous, took out stupid loans to improve the old place because the only business he understood was promotion, and got in money trouble. You know the rest.
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Surprised to see two Denver franchises on the list considering how hot Denver is as a metro right now. I guess it's all sprawl.

Baseball is becoming a lost cause. Fox would be better off showing AAU basketball on Sunday afternoons over the Blue Jays and Orioles.
Everybody in Denver is staying home, getting baked, and watching on TV. The opposite of the scenario EastYo mentioned - ticket money left at the dope shop.
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Not that surprising really. The team didn't draw that well until they got out of the old stadium following the '93 season. After that, '94 - '99 was a perfect storm for the Indians:

- New ballpark (42,000 capacity) with all the amenities that was a complete 180 from the monstrosity they used to play in (roughly 80,000 capacity).

- Acquired a couple veterans to show they meant business (Eddie Murray and Dennis Martinez).

- Young players matured into some of the best players in the league (Lofton, Belle, Baerga, and later Thome and Ramirez).

- The team contended on an annual basis. They were only 1 game out of first when the '94 strike began (in position to be the wildcard at the time), and they made the playoffs every year from '95-'99.

- Owner Dick Jacobs was willing to spend money beyond the first year in the new ballpark.

- The city had a Cavs franchise that was good but had no stars worth dropping everything to watch.

- No Browns from '96-'98.

Attendance began to tank when Jacobs sold the team to the Dolans whose philosophy has generally been "we'll spend money after we make money." Jacobs was more of a "spend money to make money" owner. Those days are long gone. Baseball isn't as driven by ticket revenue as it was 20 years ago.
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Go make a horse happy, Mr Stress Relief.


Colt filly or mare?

The Colts are only weanlings and yearlings and I'm not sure about age of consent with horses
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When will the San Diego chargers be added to the list?
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