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Old 09-05-18, 01:57 AM
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Want to see some really cool illustrations of what life on Mars might look like? Check this out:

https://www.space.com/41697-hp-mars-...challenge.html

The first picture looks like Disney world on Mars!
Pretty cool, lotr!

The other day, someone said that Starman was passing near Mars right then, so I looked up the positioning here:

http://www.whereisroadster.com/

Thought he was heading here, though :

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Old 09-06-18, 01:45 PM
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Long a staple of science fiction story's the space elevator is becoming a reality:

https://www.popularmechanics.com/spa...test-in-space/

Researchers at Shizuoka University, working in conjunction with the Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA), will begin trials on a miniature version of a space elevator next week.

The test is very small and simple, the tiniest step towards an actual elevator to the stars. This space elevator will consist of a small box 6 centimeters (2.4 inches) long, 3 cm (1.18 inches) wide, and 3 cm high. This box will move along a 10-meter (32-foot) cable suspended in orbit between two small CubeSats. This movement will be monitored with cameras inside of the satellites.

“It’s going to be the world’s first experiment to test elevator movement in space,” a university spokesperson told the AFP news agency in an interview.



If you doubt that space elevators will one day be the main way we get material & people into orbit read this:

While the difficulties of building such an elevator are astronomical, the potential for financial benefits are equally large. Preliminary studies based on hypotheticals have proposed that space elevators would bring the cost of moving cargo to space down to $100 per pound compared to current launch costs of $10,000-$40,000 per pound. Such a decrease would have the potential to radically lower the price of a space travel.
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Old 09-10-18, 07:36 AM
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I'm rooting for you Pluto!

https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0907110422.htm

The reason Pluto lost its planet status is not valid, according to new research from the University of Central Florida in Orlando.

In 2006, the International Astronomical Union, a global group of astronomy experts, established a definition of a planet that required it to "clear" its orbit, or in other words, be the largest gravitational force in its orbit.

Since Neptune's gravity influences its neighboring planet Pluto, and Pluto shares its orbit with frozen gases and objects in the Kuiper belt, that meant Pluto was out of planet status. However, in a new study published online Wednesday in the journal Icarus, UCF planetary scientist Philip Metzger, who is with the university's Florida Space Institute, reported that this standard for classifying planets is not supported in the research literature.
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Old 09-11-18, 09:10 AM
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Advanced alien civilizations or Neutron stars blowing off steam:

https://metro.co.uk/2018/09/10/alien...gnals-7931720/

A system built by the Breakthrough Listen project spotted new fast radio bursts (FRBs) emanating from a ‘repeater’ called FRB 121102 that’s 3 billion light-years away from Earth. Normally, FRBs are spotted during a single ‘outburst’ which happens just once. But the repeater called FRB 121102 is the only source of multiple repeated bursts, including 21 detected in 2017.

Scientists cannot explain the origin of fast radio bursts, but have suggested they are produced by neutron stars, supermassive black holes or even technology built by an advanced alien civilisation.



And the Sun has a surprisingly good article on these findings:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/722621...-intelligence/
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Old 09-11-18, 09:12 AM
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SpaceX continues to impress:

https://arstechnica.com/science/2018...-sunday-night/

A little more than an hour after its launch window opened—the delay was due to remnant thunderstorms in the area—SpaceX's Falcon 9 rocket launched from Florida early on Monday morning. The rocket's first stage made a flawless flight and then descended to a drone ship in the Atlantic Ocean and safely landed.

About 10 minutes after the launch, the rocket's second stage completed its initial burn, with a secondary burn and satellite deployment expected about 40 minutes after liftoff.



If you think that was impressive check this factoid out:

This was SpaceX's 16th mission of 2018. Two-thirds of the orbital launches from US soil this year have been flown by the California-based company.
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Old 09-12-18, 08:33 AM
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Multitasking is good:

https://www.wired.com/story/new-spac...-destroy-them/

But engineers now want to make satellites actually like cars: fixable, updatable, soup-up-able. To do that, you need another satellite, a robot that can play doctor, gas station attendant, and person in the parking lot who agrees to give your dead car a push.
Animation by NASA

Right now, two major programs—one headed by NASA and one by Darpa—are aiming to create such servicing satellites. But the complications are not just technical. The kinds of satellites that can sidle up to another orbiter and give it new life could also, technically, scoot up and end its life. Because the technology now exists to build these satellite hackers, we're stuck in a quandary: If your enemy can launch such orbiters, and you don't match them, you run the risk of having your space infrastructure quietly slaughtered.
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Old 09-16-18, 08:41 AM
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SpaceX continues to push the envelope:

https://www.space.com/41825-spacex-g...esign-art.html


SpaceX's giant Big Falcon Rocket (BFR) has a sleek new look for an audacious private passenger flight around the moon. If an early rendering is anything to go by, the BFR is going to have some wild fins.

Late last night (Sept. 13), SpaceX announced that it has signed a deal to launch a private passenger flight around the moon with its new BFR megarocket sometime in the future. Details are scant — SpaceX will unveil more on Monday (Sept. 17) during a live webcast — but the private spaceflight company did unveil a new artist's concept of a BFR passenger rocket around the moon.


So I wonder who is paying a fortune to take a ride around the moon?
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Old 09-16-18, 08:44 AM
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Upon further consideration the closest extra-solar planet to earth may be able to support life:

https://www.space.com/41806-proxima-...habitable.html

Just a cosmic hop, skip and jump away, an Earth-size planet orbits the closest star to our sun, Proxima Centauri.

Ever since the discovery of the exoplanet — known as Proxima Centauri b— in 2016, people have wondered whether it could be capable of sustaining life.

Now, using computer models similar to those used to study climate change on Earth, researchers have found that, under a wide range of conditions, Proxima Centauri b can sustain enormous areas of liquid water on its surface, potentially raising its prospects for harboring living organisms.



Make sure you check out the excellent video in the article.
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Old 09-18-18, 08:08 AM
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And so it begins:

https://www.businessinsider.com/spac...-rocket-2018-9

* Elon Musk and his rocket company, SpaceX, plan to launch a private passenger named Yusaku Maezawa around the moon.

* Yusaku Maezawa is a Japanese entrepreneur and art collector. If all goes according to plan, Maezawa will take a lunar voyage on the Big Falcon Rocket, or BFR: a launch system that SpaceX is developing to colonize Mars.

* Maezawa purchased all seats on the spaceship, and plans to select six to eight artists from a variety of disciplines to take the lunar journey with him in 2023.

* The mission won't land on the surface of the moon but will ferry Maezawa and his artist crewmates around Earth's natural satellite.



The internet was built by porn so maybe the conquest of the solar system will be financed by rich tourists!
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Old 09-18-18, 09:49 AM
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^ This is really cool. #dearMoon

https://dearmoon.earth/
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Old 09-18-18, 10:07 AM
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Elon Musk and his rocket company, SpaceX, plan to launch a private passenger named Yusaku Maezawa around the moon.

* Yusaku Maezawa is a Japanese entrepreneur and art collector. If all goes according to plan, Maezawa will take a lunar voyage on the Big Falcon Rocket, or BFR: a launch system that SpaceX is developing to colonize Mars.

* Maezawa purchased all seats on the spaceship, and plans to select six to eight artists from a variety of disciplines to take the lunar journey with him in 2023.
Hopefully they'll have bit more elbow room than Borman, Lovell, and Anders did.
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Old 09-18-18, 11:26 AM
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Hopefully they'll have bit more elbow room than Borman, Lovell, and Anders did.
Think it'll be okay. Yusaku looks pretty small. And, it's a Big F'n Rocket.

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Old 09-19-18, 01:20 AM
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Will Elon Musk Fly on SpaceX's Private Moon Flight in 2023 with Japanese Billionaire?

https://www.space.com/41858-will-elo...n-mission.html

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Could there be more than one billionaire aboard SpaceX's upcoming lunar fly-around mission?
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Toward the end of the event, a reporter in the room asked Musk about his own plans to fly in space.

"He did suggest, like, maybe that I would join on this trip," Musk said with a laugh, referring to Maezawa. "I don't know."

Maezawa then said, "Yeah, yeah, yeah — please, please." Musk looked at him and responded — with a bit of a smile, but not a laugh this time: "All right. Maybe we'll both be on it."

Maezawa smiled and clapped.

We probably shouldn't make too much of this playful exchange, but it is intriguing. Musk has previously expressed a desire to fly in space, though not on the earliest, riskiest missions. Indeed, one of his statements to this effect — "I'd like to die on Mars, just not on impact" — has found its way onto T-shirts and posters.
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The BFR will stand about 387 feet (118 meters) tall, and both its rocket and spaceship components will be reusable. The 180-foot-long (55 m) spaceship can accommodate 100 people, but SpaceX wants to keep numbers way down on the lunar flyaround, Musk said. The company will use the extra space to store lots of food, water, fuel and spare parts, in case something goes wrong during the flight.
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Old 09-19-18, 01:27 AM
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Billionaires Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, and Richard Branson all want to send private citizens to space. Their respective companies, SpaceX, Blue Origin, and Virgin Galactic are dedicated to making space travel and space tourism more accessible. Here's how they plan to do it.

How SpaceX, Blue Origin, And Virgin Galactic Plan On Taking You To Space



Interesting tidbits from the video: Virgin Galactic's SS Unity’s passenger spaceship, SpaceShipTwo, can carry six passengers and two crew members. Unlike Musk, Virgin Galactic’s founder, Richard Branson, will be one of the first people to take the trip to space.
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Old 09-20-18, 08:11 AM
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Billionaires Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, and Richard Branson all want to send private citizens to space. Their respective companies, SpaceX, Blue Origin, and Virgin Galactic are dedicated to making space travel and space tourism more accessible. Here's how they plan to do it.

How SpaceX, Blue Origin, And Virgin Galactic Plan On Taking You To Space



Interesting tidbits from the video: Virgin Galactic's SS Unity’s passenger spaceship, SpaceShipTwo, can carry six passengers and two crew members. Unlike Musk, Virgin Galactic’s founder, Richard Branson, will be one of the first people to take the trip to space.

So Branson is channeling the the engineer who after building a bridge is the first to drive across it!
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Old 09-20-18, 08:16 AM
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And the race is on:

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...919-story.html


Jeff Bezos will invest “just over $1 billion” next year in Blue Origin’s New Glenn rocket program, and the company will fly people to space “this coming year,” the Amazon.com Inc. chief executive said Wednesday.

Speaking during a keynote address at the Air Force Assn.’s Air, Space and Cyber Conference in National Harbor, Md., Bezos said a “big team of people” is working on the rocket’s development. The Kent, Wash., company has said the rocket will be available in two- and three-stage versions, and has already netted several commercial satellite launch orders.

The rocket’s BE-4 engine test program is also “going very well,” Bezos said. The engine, which will be propelled by liquefied natural gas and liquid oxygen, is being considered for use in the first stage of the next generation Vulcan Centaur rocket under development by a joint venture of Lockheed Martin Corp. and Boeing Co. known as United Launch Alliance.

Analysts have said New Glenn could compete with the likes of Hawthorne-based SpaceX and ULA for national security launch contracts, as well as commercial orders.



I bet I'll have to upgrade to Amazon Prime to even get a shot at hitching a ride on this rocket!
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Old 09-20-18, 09:07 AM
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Bezos is getting spanked by Space-X and he's having an absolute hissy-fit over it. They've barely got an engine, so how will they be sending anyone into space in 2019? Are they just going to buy a rocket and put someone up there to make the claim?
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Old 09-20-18, 10:05 AM
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So Branson is channeling the the engineer who after building a bridge is the first to drive across it!
Well, ya know, he's also not getting any younger!
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Old 09-20-18, 10:20 AM
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Bezos is getting spanked by Space-X...
Was thinking the same thing. I mean, c'mon. If you had the cash to take a ride in any one of these three, which would you choose?

And, to touch on lotr's article, I'm just surprised that Bezos is so late in investing the kind of resources necessary for his program to stay competitive.
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Old 09-22-18, 03:52 PM
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Hopefully the 2nd time will go better then the first:

https://www.popularmechanics.com/spa...teroid-rovers/

This week the Japanese space agency’s asteroid-exploring spacecraft, Hayabusa2, will deploy a pair of rovers to explore the surface of an asteroid. It’s a mission of redemption as much as it is science, because the last time JAXA tried this, the mission ended in failure.

The Hayabusa2 probe left for asteroid Ryugu in December 2014 and is already well into its 1.5-year mission exploring the surface. It will return to Earth in 2020. The spacecraft is armed with a slew of sensors and probes, including a high-power ejector that will shoot a 0.5-gram tantalum bullet into the surface so it can study the ejected material.



This sounds like a neat way to get around an asteroid!

If you're picture the kind of wheeled rovers that NASA sends to Mars, don't. Asteroids are too small to have much gravity, so these rovers hop around in low gravity to get from place to place. Each probe has four rotating devices inside it. Those devices generate torque that propels the probes as they take 15-minute hops, traveling at about 15 meters per jump. Each rover has two cameras, a thermometer, and an accelerometer. It has optical and ultraviolet LEDs for illumination to measure dust particles.
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Old 09-23-18, 09:17 AM
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Oh oh, conspiracy theorists are concerned about events occurring on Mars!

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/wei...y-frenzy-video

An unknown issue is said to have occurred last Saturday, preventing the rover from beaming information back to Earth.

The rover team has turned off all of Curiosity's science instruments while engineers investigate the glitch.


And while the Daily Star may not exactly be Popular Mechanics or Space.Com it sure has an abundance of great pictures in it's article.
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Old 09-24-18, 08:20 AM
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Oh oh, conspiracy theorists are concerned about events occurring on Mars!

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/wei...y-frenzy-video

An unknown issue is said to have occurred last Saturday, preventing the rover from beaming information back to Earth.

The rover team has turned off all of Curiosity's science instruments while engineers investigate the glitch.


And while the Daily Star may not exactly be Popular Mechanics or Space.Com it sure has an abundance of great pictures in it's article.
Probably WannaCry.
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Old 09-25-18, 03:59 PM
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Not really related to space travel, but I guess it could be considered "sci-fi"... I've been entertaining myself with some alternative theories concerning ancient stone work and constructions. I have very little knowledge of these things, but again, I find it entertaining to think about. My favorite is the theory that an advanced ice age civilization existed some 12,000+ years ago (advanced in the sense that they were able to cut very hard stone with insane precision despite not having steel or complex machinery, to our knowledge) and were responsible for building a number of megalithic structures around the planet, including Peru, Mexico, Egypt, and Lebanon. I'm curious if anyone else has heard of this?
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Old 09-25-18, 06:07 PM
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Not really related to space travel, but I guess it could be considered "sci-fi"... I've been entertaining myself with some alternative theories concerning ancient stone work and constructions. I have very little knowledge of these things, but again, I find it entertaining to think about. My favorite is the theory that an advanced ice age civilization existed some 12,000+ years ago (advanced in the sense that they were able to cut very hard stone with insane precision despite not having steel or complex machinery, to our knowledge) and were responsible for building a number of megalithic structures around the planet, including Peru, Mexico, Egypt, and Lebanon. I'm curious if anyone else has heard of this?
I haven't heard the "advanced ice age civilization" theory, but some of the ancient stone work is amazing and perplexing, such as Puma Punka (Bolivia) and Gobekli Tepe (Turkey) and, of course, Stonehenge and the Great Pyramid of Giza, to name a few.

"Ancient Aliens" TV show has all sorts of wild theories, most involving extraterrestrials. Most theories on that show are some form of an "argument from ignorance". My opinion: we don't know for sure how the ancients built them. Period. Stop there.

Any wild argument from ignorance is merely speculation until we have further evidence to support the claim. But, it is fun to speculate! (hint: aliens did it! )
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Old 09-26-18, 08:34 AM
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Not really related to space travel, but I guess it could be considered "sci-fi"... I've been entertaining myself with some alternative theories concerning ancient stone work and constructions. I have very little knowledge of these things, but again, I find it entertaining to think about. My favorite is the theory that an advanced ice age civilization existed some 12,000+ years ago (advanced in the sense that they were able to cut very hard stone with insane precision despite not having steel or complex machinery, to our knowledge) and were responsible for building a number of megalithic structures around the planet, including Peru, Mexico, Egypt, and Lebanon. I'm curious if anyone else has heard of this?
I think it's very possible that so called stone age civilizations could have arose that were far more sophisticated and developed then we currently believe. The challenge would be in finding archeological proof that they existed.

For example, though the Romans were the most prolific stone builders of any ancient civilization there is still so much we don't know about them and we continue to make amazing discoveries in the field as to the sophistication of their civilization.

And given that we're dealing with a 2,000 year old civilization in Rome, imagine how much harder it would be to find evidence of a civilization that was 10,000 years older then the Romans? But the main reason I think it's possible such civilizations may have existed is that we know for a fact that stone age cultures were much more advanced then what Hollywood movies make out.

Anyone who has looked at the cave paintings at Altimira (~ 34,000 BC) and Lascaux (~ 15,000 BC) can see that these peoples had the technical skills and more importantly the imaginations to create rather advanced civilizations.
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Old 09-26-18, 12:00 PM
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If you do some quick searching, you find some prominent examples of the similarities in architecture, materials, and, seemingly, methods:










I suppose the top "theory" - which does not involve aliens - is something like, there was a "source" civilization where advanced stoneworking techniques were honed, and this civilization eventually spread across the ice age world, which would have been more constrained in latitude compared to our contemporary, relatively ice-free world. This civilization did this for a long enough period of time that cultural divergences developed. It should not be too difficult for us to comprehend how two connected places could quickly diverge, given our historical connection to the UK and the number of differences that have developed between us in the relatively tiny 240-year time span since independence.
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Max, you might find it interesting that, as a side subject, my kid (a middle school science teacher) allows for the students to investigate everything from the Egyptian Pyramids and the Mayan Ruins to Amelia Earhart’s disappearance and the search for extraterrestrial life. Basically, anything that’s left us scratching our heads! One of the students’ projects will be to apply what they learn in regards to simple machines to erect (in front of the rest of the class) a small-scale version of a Stonehenge trilithon, using only materials of the time period (rock, dirt, wood, rope, etc.), with the goal being to find the most efficient means possible (and also submitting the calculations). I’ll keep you posted on whether these kids end up figuring this whole thing out!
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Does anybody have a reliable flux capacitor for sale? Then we could solve some of the mysteries.
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Old 09-26-18, 08:37 PM
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If you do some quick searching, you find some prominent examples of the similarities in architecture, materials, and, seemingly, methods:










I suppose the top "theory" - which does not involve aliens - is something like, there was a "source" civilization where advanced stoneworking techniques were honed, and this civilization eventually spread across the ice age world, which would have been more constrained in latitude compared to our contemporary, relatively ice-free world. This civilization did this for a long enough period of time that cultural divergences developed. It should not be too difficult for us to comprehend how two connected places could quickly diverge, given our historical connection to the UK and the number of differences that have developed between us in the relatively tiny 240-year time span since independence.
This is certainly a plausible explanation for the similarities in building style observed. It's also possible that all we're seeing here is best practices by civilizations that were at similar levels of technology & tool development.

Bottom line is that even if civilizations existing before 10,000 BC were as prolific as the Romans in building, after more then 12,000 years there would be very little left to find.
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Old 09-26-18, 11:13 PM
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Indeed, lotr10. Though there are more layers to this! You may know that flood stories exist across the world as ancient oral - and eventually written - traditions, and some claim those stories depict an event that ended the ice age civilization. But! Just today I came across two very intriguing tidbits that I suspect most are not aware of:

1. An Egyptian mummy was found to have tobacco in its stomach. Tobacco! A plant native to the Americas!

2. Inca oral tradition states that they did not build the megalithic sites in Peru, including Machu Picchu! What sort of culture builds something so spectacular but shuns responsibility for building it? It certainly would not be the Inca, who were notoriously self-aggrandizing!

Oral traditions are something I feel are often criminally undervalued. The accuracy of many oral traditions has been gaining respect in recent years as new scientific revelations reveal a number of corresponding events. There are even tribes in the Pacific Northwest that have retained stories of their ancestors crossing the Bering Strait! Invaluable knowledge if taken seriously!
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