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Old 07-05-17, 08:26 PM
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Because you hate Tyrell and anything to do with Hoban. Kinda like the Media hates our president. No one cares about who the new admissions director is, but if it is Delmedico i would be very pleased. First class guy and cares immensely about Hoban.


This is too funny with your post.
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Old 07-05-17, 09:21 PM
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This is too funny with your post.
Happy to entertain you.
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Old 07-06-17, 08:16 AM
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No one cares about who the new admissions director is, but if it is Delmedico i would be very pleased. First class guy and cares immensely about Hoban.
I disagree. He has a "win at all costs" mentality that in my opinion has hurt the school. As over-the-top as DB is about all things Hoban, there are some truths to what he is saying about this topic. If this is true, it would give him the keys to the kingdom. He could manipulate the admissions process to ensure continued success of the football team, to the detriment of the overall health of the school.
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Old 07-06-17, 09:08 AM
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From the prophet Hoban2019. The Absolute Truth has been spoken!!! Mr Haney is on the clock....
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Old 07-06-17, 09:30 AM
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I can see it's going to be another long year of Hoban threads. On October 1st, no one will know the name of their strong safety, but we'll all know the name of their freaking Admissions Director.
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Old 07-06-17, 09:44 AM
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I can see it's going to be another long year of Hoban threads. On October 1st, no one will know the name of their strong safety, but we'll all know the name of their freaking Admissions Director.
The admissions director may turn out to be more important to the football program than the strong safety.
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Old 07-06-17, 11:45 AM
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I disagree. He has a "win at all costs" mentality that in my opinion has hurt the school. As over-the-top as DB is about all things Hoban, there are some truths to what he is saying about this topic. If this is true, it would give him the keys to the kingdom. He could manipulate the admissions process to ensure continued success of the football team, to the detriment of the overall health of the school.
Not sure how he has hurt the school with a win at all costs attitude. Could you explain? I have seen high level athletes have to transfer out to the public school system because they could not remain eligible. I have also seen numerous students transfer back to their home schools because they could not earn playing time. And some transfer back due to the simple costs it takes to go to a private. I think Hoban works hard to give everyone a chance at a private Christ based education but it doesn't do anyone any good if they cannot do the work or thrive in that type of environment. I have only met Mike Delmedico a few times but he comes across as a professional and empathetic human being who loves Hoban and represents it well. Also it seems to me that all of Hobans athletic teams are thriving, not just football.
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Old 07-06-17, 12:06 PM
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Regarding St. Ignatius, is it a multi year deal or just single like St. Eds? I thought St. Ed's only wanted a one year game given this years commitments (2017) and to capitulate for a single game agreed to play at Hoban. I don't know that for fact.

Hoban will be fine. A bit of a bummer that they have an open week I believe. Some will say extra week to prep for St. V., but I actually think that advantage goes to Irish if healthy and have momentum.

I am excited to see what happens at the QB position. Should be fun to watch. Oh I forgot, not supposed to talk about fun and sports on these threads. Not meant at all posters before torches and pitchforks are brought out. Duck is out.
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Old 07-06-17, 03:03 PM
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Not sure how he has hurt the school with a win at all costs attitude. Could you explain? I have seen high level athletes have to transfer out to the public school system because they could not remain eligible. I have also seen numerous students transfer back to their home schools because they could not earn playing time. And some transfer back due to the simple costs it takes to go to a private. I think Hoban works hard to give everyone a chance at a private Christ based education but it doesn't do anyone any good if they cannot do the work or thrive in that type of environment. I have only met Mike Delmedico a few times but he comes across as a professional and empathetic human being who loves Hoban and represents it well. Also it seems to me that all of Hobans athletic teams are thriving, not just football.
It hurts the school when you are admitting students for athletics that don't meet the academic qualifications that normal students have to meet to attend the school.

Hoban does not just do this for football, but for other sports also. (I can speak with certainty about softball, not sure on others)

Ever since DelMedico came back the school has been his personal playground to run amok in. The way that the administration treats people has been awful ever since he came back.

They have been forcing out staff and faculty left and right. The former principal was forced out with one year left to hit max pension. They are forcing teachers out because of the atmosphere created. I have talked to several people that work there that described the staff/faculty mood as "on edge."

This is not a good school anymore.
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Old 07-06-17, 03:31 PM
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It hurts the school when you are admitting students for athletics that don't meet the academic qualifications that normal students have to meet to attend the school.

Hoban does not just do this for football, but for other sports also. (I can speak with certainty about softball, not sure on others)

Ever since DelMedico came back the school has been his personal playground to run amok in. The way that the administration treats people has been awful ever since he came back.

They have been forcing out staff and faculty left and right. The former principal was forced out with one year left to hit max pension. They are forcing teachers out because of the atmosphere created. I have talked to several people that work there that described the staff/faculty mood as "on edge."

This is not a good school anymore.
Sounds like another former student with an axe to grind? Were you asked to no longer provide services to the school athletic department? I disagree with your assessment as Hoban not being a good school anymore. That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. Not sure why it keeps showing up on a thread about the teams QB? As far as Hoban sacrificing academic standards for athletes that goes on at about every high school and college in the US. Go grind your axe with DB04 at his mom's basement.
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Old 07-06-17, 03:47 PM
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Sounds like another former student with an axe to grind? Were you asked to no longer provide services to the school athletic department? I disagree with your assessment as Hoban not being a good school anymore. That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. Not sure why it keeps showing up on a thread about the teams QB? As far as Hoban sacrificing academic standards for athletes that goes on at about every high school and college in the US. Go grind your axe with DB04 at his mom's basement.
Academically it is fine, but there is no longer a sense of morality like there used to be.

They have put winning athletic titles above having values.
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Old 07-06-17, 03:59 PM
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Academically it is fine, but there is no longer a sense of morality like there used to be.

They have put winning athletic titles above having values.
Sense of morality??? What does that have to do with winning athletic titles??? If the academics are fine which you state above and they are winning athletic titles then everyone should be thrilled. Best of both worlds!!

i guarantee there are many schools who would like to have that problem. Politics are everywhere in all walks of life and they suck. People thrive who don't do things the way we think they should. It's called life and no one ever said it was going to be fair.
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Old 07-06-17, 04:09 PM
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I have only met Mike Delmedico a few times but he comes across as a professional and empathetic human being who loves Hoban and represents it well.
Yes, he does give that appearance.
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Old 07-06-17, 04:27 PM
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Not sure how he has hurt the school with a win at all costs attitude. Could you explain?
He hired the current win-at-all-costs football coach, who came in and promptly played fast and loose with the OHSAA rules to the point that a cloud hung over the school for more than a year (and still does). (Yes, yes, I realize the coach was slapped on the wrist in the end, but it made the school look bad.)

After the girls basketball coach was fired by the previous AD, he did not back up the AD, but un-fired the coach. The previous AD (who was genuinely an empathetic man of great character) then promptly left at the end of the year, a big loss for the school.

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Old 07-06-17, 05:13 PM
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He hired the current win-at-all-costs football coach, who came in and promptly played fast and loose with the OHSAA rules to the point that a cloud hung over the school for more than a year (and still does). (Yes, yes, I realize the coach was slapped on the wrist in the end, but it made the school look bad.)

After the girls basketball coach was fired by the previous AD, he did not back up the AD, but un-fired the coach. The previous AD (who was genuinely an empathetic man of great character) then promptly left at the end of the year, a big loss for the school.

My opinions only.
In defense of the current football coach who you say plays " fast and loose", the incident of record was much to do about nothing. Talking to a kid at St Hilliary at an open house I believe that the coach was invited to by the school offficials. Turns out the student went to St Ed's I am told, and lo and behold, St Hilliary is designated as the feeder school for Hoban by the OHSSA. Meaning that the coach can go there to the school just like your local high school coach can go to his middle school and watch kids play.

Only cloud hanging over the school is people who continue to post about an event that was way overblown and affected absolutely nothing. Football coaches are hired to win and football is a brutal sport to play in and compete. It is not for the faint of heart which is where all of the whining comes from.

I know nothing of the girls basketball program other than they win.
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Old 07-06-17, 06:27 PM
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Having Delmedico and Tyrell running the show at the school would be detrimental to the school's well being and reputation. Several alums and families who attended the school prior to the current administration are not happy with what has become of a once fine institution.
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Old 07-06-17, 06:43 PM
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It hurts the school when you are admitting students for athletics that don't meet the academic qualifications that normal students have to meet to attend the school.

Hoban does not just do this for football, but for other sports also. (I can speak with certainty about softball, not sure on others)

Ever since DelMedico came back the school has been his personal playground to run amok in. The way that the administration treats people has been awful ever since he came back.

They have been forcing out staff and faculty left and right. The former principal was forced out with one year left to hit max pension. They are forcing teachers out because of the atmosphere created. I have talked to several people that work there that described the staff/faculty mood as "on edge."

This is not a good school anymore.
Andy27 is correct. Faculty are leaving with a very bad taste in their mouth, the turnover rate is very high among faculty and admins, and Hoban appears to be a stepping stone for faculty to go elsewhere..including Walsh Jesuit.
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Old 07-06-17, 06:47 PM
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Sounds like another former student with an axe to grind? Were you asked to no longer provide services to the school athletic department? I disagree with your assessment as Hoban not being a good school anymore. That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. Not sure why it keeps showing up on a thread about the teams QB? As far as Hoban sacrificing academic standards for athletes that goes on at about every high school and college in the US. Go grind your axe with DB04 at his mom's basement.
Your opinion is outnumbered by Hoban alumni, and schools in the diocese of Cleveland.

You live in a dream world.
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Old 07-06-17, 07:41 PM
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Your opinion is outnumbered by Hoban alumni, and schools in the diocese of Cleveland.

You live in a dream world.
Yet, despite this overwhelming majority, absolutely nothing gets done about the issues you claim (kind of like all of those recruiting violations you told us about ad infinitum).
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Old 07-06-17, 08:19 PM
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Yet, despite this overwhelming majority, absolutely nothing gets done about the issues you claim (kind of like all of those recruiting violations you told us about ad infinitum).
That's not my call..that was OHSAAs call. The joke was on them after the meeting in Stow. There was just talking and no walking. It's like the European Union being soft as a pillow.

It's too late it's a takeover. Nobody can stop the triumvirate at Hoban. They control everything in the school. If you don't agree with them..you're SOL collecting unemployment.
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Old 07-06-17, 08:52 PM
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That's not my call..that was OHSAAs call. The joke was on them after the meeting in Stow. There was just talking and no walking. It's like the European Union being soft as a pillow.

It's too late it's a takeover. Nobody can stop the triumvirate at Hoban. They control everything in the school. If you don't agree with them..you're SOL collecting unemployment.
Hmmmmmm. A while back a number of alumni at Hoban's rival didn't like the direction of the school and they stood up, did something about it, and changes were made for the better. There may well be problems at Hoban (e.g. treating personnel poorly), but internet sniping does little to change those problems.

I think it was MLK that said "in the face of power, you should just give up and resign yourself to defeat."
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Old 07-06-17, 10:45 PM
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Your opinion is outnumbered by Hoban alumni, and schools in the diocese of Cleveland.

You live in a dream world.
I live in realville. I see what Hoban has done for my child and those I am affiliated with and I couldn't be happier. Hoban was the best thing to ever happen for our family. I really don't care about disgruntled alumni or schools in the diocese who may be jealous over a few state championships.
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Old 07-07-17, 08:46 AM
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I live in realville. I see what Hoban has done for my child and those I am affiliated with and I couldn't be happier. Hoban was the best thing to ever happen for our family. I really don't care about disgruntled alumni or schools in the diocese who may be jealous over a few state championships.
If you did your research from all angles, you will realize it's not as amazing as you think.

Jealous...that sounds like the Jonestown brainwashing.
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Old 07-07-17, 08:55 AM
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Not sure how he has hurt the school with a win at all costs attitude. Could you explain? I have seen high level athletes have to transfer out to the public school system because they could not remain eligible. I have also seen numerous students transfer back to their home schools because they could not earn playing time. And some transfer back due to the simple costs it takes to go to a private. I think Hoban works hard to give everyone a chance at a private Christ based education but it doesn't do anyone any good if they cannot do the work or thrive in that type of environment. I have only met Mike Delmedico a few times but he comes across as a professional and empathetic human being who loves Hoban and represents it well. Also it seems to me that all of Hobans athletic teams are thriving, not just football.
I have known Mike Delmedico a little bit personally and a whole lot professionally for the better part of 30 years. I have a very high opinion of him. He is a very smart and dedicated professional. I can't speak one way or the other about his tenure at Hoban because I don't know the details. However I would expect the truth to fall somewhere in between DB' s and Cougarfan' s unbiased points of view!
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Old 07-07-17, 09:03 AM
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I have known Mike Delmedico a little bit personally and a whole lot professionally for the better part of 30 years. I have a very high opinion of him. He is a very smart and dedicated professional. I can't speak one way or the other about his tenure at Hoban because I don't know the details. However I would expect the truth to fall somewhere in between DB' s and Cougarfan' s unbiased points of view!
Maybe you can stand next to him on the sidelines at Hoban games and yell at the OHSAA refs together.
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Old 07-07-17, 09:09 AM
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Regarding St. Ignatius, is it a multi year deal or just single like St. Eds? I thought St. Ed's only wanted a one year game given this years commitments (2017) and to capitulate for a single game agreed to play at Hoban. I don't know that for fact.

Hoban will be fine. A bit of a bummer that they have an open week I believe. Some will say extra week to prep for St. V., but I actually think that advantage goes to Irish if healthy and have momentum.

I am excited to see what happens at the QB position. Should be fun to watch. Oh I forgot, not supposed to talk about fun and sports on these threads. Not meant at all posters before torches and pitchforks are brought out. Duck is out.
Did someone drop out of Hoban' s Week 4 or was that always open? Looking at the Knight's schedule, it looks tough at the beginning, but not so much in the second half of the season. Although if Benedictine rebounds, that view could change. Part of it is conference affiliation. One way or the other, overall, I think my Irish face a much tougher schedule than our Hoban counterparts.
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Old 07-07-17, 09:58 AM
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Did someone drop out of Hoban' s Week 4 or was that always open? Looking at the Knight's schedule, it looks tough at the beginning, but not so much in the second half of the season. Although if Benedictine rebounds, that view could change. Part of it is conference affiliation. One way or the other, overall, I think my Irish face a much tougher schedule than our Hoban counterparts.
Eeek, actual football talk?
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Old 07-07-17, 10:23 AM
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Eeek, actual football talk?
Oops! I forgot myself! By all means, please ignore my last post and continue deifying or demonizing the Hoban coaches and administration as you deem appropriate.
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Old 07-07-17, 10:24 AM
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Oops! I forgot myself! By all means, please ignore my last post and continue deifying or demonizing the Hoban coaches and administration as you deem appropriate.
You must be new here. LOL.
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Old 07-07-17, 12:50 PM
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Did someone drop out of Hoban' s Week 4 or was that always open? Looking at the Knight's schedule, it looks tough at the beginning, but not so much in the second half of the season. Although if Benedictine rebounds, that view could change. Part of it is conference affiliation. One way or the other, overall, I think my Irish face a much tougher schedule than our Hoban counterparts.
Yea the open date has always been there. McKinley dropped off and Ignatious and Mooney was added. Columbus Desales was contacted as they had an Open date on week 4 but wouldn't schedule Hoban. A loss wouldn't benefit them at all. Hoban has been looking for months but most schools are in conference play by week 4. Probably will stay open.

St V and Hoban schedule pretty close I would think. Hoban with Ignatious D1 and St V with Lasalle D2 Remainer of schedule for both pretty close. I would give the edge to Hoban with the easier schedule because of a lack of week 4. Although playing North for St V is an open week too. Barberton should be pretty good.
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