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Old 07-17-17, 04:39 AM
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I don't think the kid should be vilified because he has chosen to go to Hoban. Obviously there are other reasons than he can start and get a scholarship. Fitch has put many kids in DI schools recently. Plus, if you're good enough, you can play at the worst school in the country and the scouts will find you. He may not start at Hoban; on the other hand, he would start at Fitch this year. I imagine the family likes Hoban's offense and education. But they should like Austintown schools because those people held him back because he wasn't ready for high school after being home schooled. This move actually puts more pressure on the kid. I imagine the age thing is not as bad as it sounds. He's probably 15 and will be 16 later on in the year, but as far as scholarships go, if he doesn't get to 6'1" of taller, he may not be able to get anything from the bigger DI schools.
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Old 07-17-17, 06:01 AM
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You need to do your homework on me. Better yet at least look up my credit score! That might give you a reality check.
irrelevant.
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Old 07-17-17, 06:02 AM
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He did well at UA.
I am glad he was successful there.
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Old 07-17-17, 06:11 AM
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Yeah. Id say Hoban is way more liberal than Coventry, or Green, or Manchester. I have a friend who went to Hoban, who said that one of the theology teachers was making a point in class that God sanctions homosexuality. Im not condemning or condoning that statement on here, but that is a very liberal statement that, if true (I trust this friend btw) speaks volumes about the influence of liberalism at Hoban. That statement is with out a doubt also inconsistent with catholic teachings, and as I understand it, Hoban is supposedly a catholic school. I personally think it would be better to send a child to a school where he or she would recieve no religious education, than a school that supposedly is run by people of my faith, yet teaches a theology that is contradictory in some aspects with my faith. And there are plenty of church youth groups/psr's etc that one could turn to to keep their teen rooted in their faith while in a public high school. Coventry high school for example has a prayer group that meets before school. Or at least they did at one time...

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Liberal slant is everywhere in academia. Hoban is not immune that's for sure. I have heard it come home at times and we address it. Everyone must find what works for them when it comes to educating their child. Christ is at the center of the education at Hoban and that is what we wanted for our student.
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Old 07-17-17, 06:15 AM
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You obviously don't know much about Hoban. There's quite a few liberal teachers there.
Yea Andy I am aware of liberal teachers. Same as in every walk of life.
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Old 07-17-17, 08:12 AM
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To pay a head football coaches fine from OHSAA you would buy ten lockers?
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Old 07-17-17, 09:53 AM
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While this may never sink to the level of venom and animosity of the Massillon-McKinley blood baths, this incessant (and generally irrelevant) back and forth between DB and Cougar has taken the pre-season lead for this year's Yappi's Most Vitriolic Duo Award... It's a long season guys... Relax!
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Old 07-17-17, 10:18 AM
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...and this is exactly why I haven't started a Hoban 2017 thread. How about one of you being the bigger man and refusing to stoop to the other's level rather than stooping lower and lower in an attempt to undercut the other?
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Old 07-17-17, 11:49 AM
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Here you go CougarFan22
Is that your TV in the basement? Not sure what you are showing but you missed your XBox in the photo.
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Old 07-17-17, 12:08 PM
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...and on cue...
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Old 07-17-17, 12:10 PM
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I am trying to figure out if this is satire or what.
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Old 07-17-17, 12:11 PM
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...and this is exactly why I haven't started a Hoban 2017 thread. How about one of you being the bigger man and refusing to stoop to the other's level rather than stooping lower and lower in an attempt to undercut the other?
That would be great. If you go back to the beginning of the thread you will see that it was others that went off track on the thread and started attacking Hoban.
I tried to give my take on the freshman QB and other related issues. But you have a couple of posers who have an axe to grind and will spew out about anything to make Hoban look bad. So if I see it I will respond appropriately.
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Old 07-17-17, 12:25 PM
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A picture from the recent Cougar/DB04 debates-

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Old 07-17-17, 12:31 PM
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...and this is exactly why I haven't started a Hoban 2017 thread. How about one of you being the bigger man and refusing to stoop to the other's level rather than stooping lower and lower in an attempt to undercut the other?
It clearly was TOO much to ask...
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Old 07-17-17, 12:50 PM
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A picture from the recent Cougar/DB04 debates-


Why not a photo of the David West / Tristan Thompson spat?


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Old 07-17-17, 12:53 PM
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Why not a photo of the David West / Tristan Thompson spat?


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That dispute seemed too adult.
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Old 07-17-17, 01:26 PM
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A picture from the recent Cougar/DB04 debates-

Funny how you ask for civility and then post a picture to create more angst.
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Old 07-17-17, 01:45 PM
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I came on this thread with real interest and intrigue regarding the the title of the thread. "Hoban QB 2017". And mostly all I get to read is trash talking non related to the 2017 Hoban QB. I was hoping to learn more about who it may be, what his strengths and weaknesses are, is there a QB camp battle between a number of kids. Etc... But what a joke and disgrace this thread turned out to be - IMO. And it's not everyone that posted, but a high percentage. Thanks for very little information about the 2017 Hoban QB. Maybe going forward anyone that posts on this thread could truly stick to the subject. And be proud of your team and players. Just a thought.
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Old 07-17-17, 01:48 PM
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I came on this thread with real interest and intrigue regarding the the title of the thread. "Hoban QB 2017". And mostly all I get to read is trash talking non related to the 2017 Hoban QB. I was hoping to learn more about who it may be, what his strengths and weaknesses are, is there a QB camp battle between a number of kids. Etc... But what a joke and disgrace this thread turned out to be - IMO. And it's not everyone that posted, but a high percentage. Thanks for very little information about the 2017 Hoban QB. Maybe going forward anyone that posts on this thread could truly stick to the subject. And be proud of your team and players. Just a thought.
This must be the first Hoban thread you ever opened! Seriously, I share your feelings. And the strangest part about these threads is that almost all of the back and forth are between people with ties to Hoban.
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Old 07-17-17, 02:10 PM
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Funny how you ask for civility and then post a picture to create more angst.
I sincerely apologize for causing you "a feeling of deep anxiety or dread, typically an unfocused one about the human condition or the state of the world in general."
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Old 07-17-17, 02:42 PM
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Wow! I go on vacation and this is up to 12 pages. I did enjoy the reading. Kinda like a repetitive soap opera without good looking women. I didn't see a Hoban just overall football thread or an Irish one. Has one been started?
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Old 07-17-17, 02:43 PM
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I should have said have both been started? I.E. Hoban & or St. V?
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Old 07-17-17, 10:01 PM
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This must be the first Hoban thread you ever opened! Seriously, I share your feelings. And the strangest part about these threads is that almost all of the back and forth are between people with ties to Hoban.
I heard from a few of the kids that played in their 7 on 7 at Copley last Thursday that the senior, ex-Hawken QB was very sharp, and in their minds was clearly the best Hoban QB that day.
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Old 07-18-17, 09:31 AM
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I just don't see this freshmen starting. If he doesn't start, will the dad start shopping around again?
Have you seen the freshman play? I think he had a legit chance of starting and being pretty good. He is not your typical looking freshman. No dad is going anywhere. Very nice man. Both QB's performed well in 7-7. Senior with long ball and freshman short to medium. Neither one has separated himself yet.
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Old 07-18-17, 11:31 AM
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I heard from a few of the kids that played in their 7 on 7 at Copley last Thursday that the senior, ex-Hawken QB was very sharp, and in their minds was clearly the best Hoban QB that day.
What is his name? Is it T.J. Perusek. (I just googled 2016 Hawken HS 2016 QB - and that's the name that came up). If it is, I want to see if he has any videos on Hudl. Although I just went to Hudl, and that name as a QB was no where to be found. Thanks.

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Old 07-18-17, 11:34 AM
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Have you seen the freshman play? I think he had a legit chance of starting and being pretty good. He is not your typical looking freshman. No dad is going anywhere. Very nice man. Both QB's performed well in 7-7. Senior with long ball and freshman short to medium. Neither one has separated himself yet.
Because he's 2 years older than a normal freshman.....
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Old 07-18-17, 12:32 PM
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What is his name? Is it T.J. Perusek. (I just googled 2016 Hawken HS 2016 QB - and that's the name that came up). If it is, I want to see if he has any videos on Hudl. Although I just went to Hudl, and that name as a QB was no where to be found. Thanks.

I believe that's what we call fake news these days.

My understanding is that the young man at Hoban who had been at Hawken is Simmons (don't know first name) and he was at Hoban last year - JV QB - after having been at Hawken previously.

I could be wrong myself, but I believe your information is incorrect.


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Old 07-18-17, 05:22 PM
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I still think this kid will be the starter.
Based on what observation? Just curious to see how you come to this conclusion?
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Old 07-18-17, 08:26 PM
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I still think this kid will be the starter.
Same. Just think it is good practice to let a freshman sit a year and learn the system rather than throw him out to the wolves. What ever happens they just don't need a dual QB system. That never works.
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Old 07-18-17, 08:40 PM
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Same. Just think it is good practice to let a freshman sit a year and learn the system rather than throw him out to the wolves. What ever happens they just don't need a dual QB system. That never works.
Whoever is the best QB for the offense they are putting in will be the starter. Freshman vs Senior will not have an impact I believe because neither has played any varsity games. Time will tell. Coach will play the best player plain and simple.
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