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04-16-18, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by winbypin
So what you're saying is its a waste of time to blame Russia, Facebook, Comey, and anyone else for the fact Trump is president? We should just move on?
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i know this might be tough for you to grasp, you man up. dont blame someone else for your own transgressions. i know that isnt a principle that trump and his supporters believe in. they would rather place blame on everyone from the media to the easter bunny.
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04-16-18, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 19AL63
Truth is I hate dandelions and liberals.
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truth is both seem to have outwitted you
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04-16-18, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by lotr10
But, but, but.........FACEBOOK! The Russians posted on Facebook. That had to swing the election - right?
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and the mythical 'deep state" is behind the investigation.
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04-16-18, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by goldentornado
i know this might be tough for you to grasp, you man up. dont blame someone else for your own transgressions. i know that isnt a principle that trump and his supporters believe in. they would rather place blame on everyone from the media to the easter bunny.
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Yet its the liberals that are blaming everyone for Trump winning.
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04-16-18, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by goldentornado
truth is both seem to have outwitted you
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"God save me from having to depend on liberals to defend my civil rights>" - author unknown
I do not think I am the one being outwitted.
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04-16-18, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by winbypin
Yet its the liberals that are blaming everyone for Trump winning.
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actually its trump blaming comey, sessions, rosenstein, mueller, and obama for his own self created problems
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04-16-18, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 19AL63
"God save me from having to depend on liberals to defend my civil rights>" - author unknown
I do not think I am the one being outwitted.
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i'm sure you wouldnt, enter david dunning and justin kruger
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04-16-18, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by goldentornado
according to chs1971 he is privy to all evidence that Mueller has uncovered.
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Lie. I never claimed anything of the sort.
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04-16-18, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by chs1971
Lie. I never claimed anything of the sort.
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the statements you make could only be made by someone that has access to all of info that mueller has uncovered. so i guess now your statements are to be taken with a grain of salt?
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04-16-18, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by goldentornado
actually its trump blaming comey, sessions, rosenstein, mueller, and obama for his own self created problems
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This all comes back to the claims of Russian influence and the ensuing witch hunt investigation.
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04-16-18, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by winbypin
This all comes back to the claims of Russian influence and the ensuing witch hunt investigation.
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you would like to believe that ? it comes from all of trump's various lies , which are too numerous to list
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04-16-18, 02:23 PM
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you would like to believe that ? it comes from all of trump's various lies , which are too numerous to list
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Just check out this thread title if you're not sure where this all started.
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04-16-18, 02:47 PM
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We keep finding witches though. What are we up to now?
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04-16-18, 05:36 PM
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the statements you make could only be made by someone that has access to all of info that mueller has uncovered. so i guess now your statements are to be taken with a grain of salt?
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No, and nonsense.
What I said was, "Still absolutely no evidence of illegal collusion with the Russians to cheat Hillary of her rightful victory." And that is true.
If you think it is not true, show us the evidence.
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04-16-18, 05:51 PM
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No, and nonsense.
What I said was, "Still absolutely no evidence of illegal collusion with the Russians to cheat Hillary of her rightful victory." And that is true.
If you think it is not true, show us the evidence.
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show us the proof that backs up your statement
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04-16-18, 06:05 PM
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now we see why hannity cried like a school yard sissy when cohen's office got raided
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04-16-18, 07:47 PM
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show us the proof that backs up your statement
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How? There is no evidence to show, as I have said several times.
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04-16-18, 07:52 PM
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How? There is no evidence to show, as I have said several times.
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then basically your claim is unsubstantiated.
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04-16-18, 07:57 PM
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then basically your claim is unsubstantiated.
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Coming from a genius like you that really hurts.
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04-16-18, 08:25 PM
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Coming from a genius like you that really hurts.
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do you have any more unsubstantiated claims you would like to make?
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04-16-18, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by goldentornado
do you have any more unsubstantiated claims you would like to make?
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Your unsubstantiated claims are ok but his are not?
Cool.
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04-16-18, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by winbypin
Your unsubstantiated claims are ok but his are not?
Cool.
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i didnt make any unsubstantiated claims
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04-17-18, 01:47 AM
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i didnt make any unsubstantiated claims
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There is no evidence of that.
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04-17-18, 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by goldentornado
do you have any more unsubstantiated claims you would like to make?
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You suffer from SFB Syndrome. No wait, we have plenty of evidence of that.
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04-17-18, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by goldentornado
and the mythical 'deep state" is behind the investigation.
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If you don't like the designation "deep state" then you can simply call it the "deep bureaucracy". And it is this amorphous bureaucracy that rules our day to day lives. If you want a description I can give you that to: The Deep Bureaucracy is an unaccountable, overfed, obese, parasitical institution that behaves much like an organism with it's instinct to expand, propagate and fight off any threat.
You can deny its existence all you want but simple observation would confirm that not only is the Deep State present, it is alive & well. In fact not since Reagan has a POTUS attempted to tame this bureaucracy, but unlike during Regan's time the Deep State is larger and more deeply entrenched today. And like any organism that is threatened, the Deep State is fighting tooth & claw to protect itself and destroy the threat to it's survival.
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04-17-18, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by goldentornado
can you provide us with the proof that there is no evidence of collusion?
how about obstruction ? is there any evidence of that?
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Do you even understand how burden of proof works? If I accuse you of a crime the burden of proof is on me to prove your guilt, not on you to prove your innocence.
Can you prove to me that unicorns don't exist?
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04-17-18, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Gh0st
Do you even understand how burden of proof works? If I accuse you of a crime the burden of proof is on me to prove your guilt, not on you to prove your innocence.
Can you prove to me that unicorns don't exist?
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Do you even understand the difference between fact and opinion? this is not about innocence or guilt. its about trying to present a opinion as a fact.
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04-17-18, 10:05 AM
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There is no evidence of that.
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so you say, but yes there is evidence
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04-17-18, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by lotr10
If you don't like the designation "deep state" then you can simply call it the "deep bureaucracy". And it is this amorphous bureaucracy that rules our day to day lives. If you want a description I can give you that to: The Deep Bureaucracy is an unaccountable, overfed, obese, parasitical institution that behaves much like an organism with it's instinct to expand, propagate and fight off any threat.
You can deny its existence all you want but simple observation would confirm that not only is the Deep State present, it is alive & well. In fact not since Reagan has a POTUS attempted to tame this bureaucracy, but unlike during Regan's time the Deep State is larger and more deeply entrenched today. And like any organism that is threatened, the Deep State is fighting tooth & claw to protect itself and destroy the threat to it's survival.
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this is comedy gold
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04-17-18, 11:25 AM
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Do you even understand the difference between fact and opinion? this is not about innocence or guilt. its about trying to present a opinion as a fact.
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Since the Democrats are going to use any malicious findings to try and impeach Trump it very much is about guilt or innocence.
Whether it's your opinion or just stating facts, it doesn't change how burden of proof works.
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