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Old 03-08-17, 08:07 PM
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Objective Burma: I thought Errol Flynn only as the caricature in tights. Dude could act.


I think my list will change every time I think about this.
...I forgot about Objective Burma, very good war movie
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Old 03-08-17, 08:15 PM
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Australians do WWI. Breaker Morant ...
Is set during the Second Boer War, 1899-1902.
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Old 03-08-17, 09:03 PM
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Is it surprising there's so relatively few Revolutionary War movies, let alone GOOD Revolutionary War movies. I'm really enjoying the series "Turn," so don't see why this is with movies.

Has anyone mentioned John Ford's "They Were Expendable?" Great movie by a guy mostly known for westerns.

Having seen and seen most of the Hollywood made, I've been watching when I can, British made WWI era movies. They often have more of a home front setting given, their home was the front. I particularly enjoy the movies post 33, to really get an idea how powerful a presence Hitler was. We see him in the Olympics then jump to the war. He was a shadow that hung over their daily lives.

I've enjoyed the Noel Coward, David Lean "In Which We Serve." David Niven's "Stairway to Heaven (A Matter of Life and Death)"
When Mel Gibson was promoting the Patriot he discussed the curse of the Revolutionary War movies with a critic and one of the main draw backs is that it was a boring style of warfare so the battle scenes lack a lot of human drama. He tried to make it more interesting and "Private Ryan" the fighting scenes but it is tough to do while also being historically accurate. Not very compelling when most soldiers died weeks later from an infection from a battle wound.
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Doh^2

Australians do WWI.

Breaker Morant and Gallipoli. Could watch everyday.

African Queen: we should all be ashamed that hasn't been mentioned. It's got leeches!
How could I have forgotten Gallipoli! One of the greatest war movies of all time and here's my favorite scene:

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Old 03-08-17, 09:11 PM
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Hey we actually agree on something. Turn is an excellent series and one of my favorites. It really brings out the fact that the American revolutionary war was really a civil war.
It was?
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Old 03-08-17, 09:22 PM
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It was?
Absolutely it was. First off we were English citizens and part of the British Empire and by definition our rebellion was a civil war to gain our independence. Much like the American civil war 80 years later.

Second some of the most brutal fighting was between loyalist Americans and rebel Americans. The Battle of Kings Mountain is a good example of the fratricidal nature of the war of Independence.

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-h...kings-mountain
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Absolutely it was. First off we were English citizens and part of the British Empire and by definition our rebellion was a civil war to gain our independence. Much like the American civil war 80 years later.

Second some of the most brutal fighting was between loyalist Americans and rebel Americans. The Battle of Kings Mountain is a good example of the fratricidal nature of the war of Independence.

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-h...kings-mountain
I guess I always viewed a civil war as two factions fighting for control of a country, not one looking to maintain control and the other independence.
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Old 03-08-17, 09:33 PM
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(Breaker Morant)Is set during the Second Boer War (not WWI as "someone" claimed), 1899-1902.
close enough


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When Mel Gibson was promoting the Patriot he discussed the curse of the Revolutionary War movies with a critic and one of the main draw backs is that it was a boring style of warfare so the battle scenes lack a lot of human drama. He tried to make it more interesting and "Private Ryan" the fighting scenes but it is tough to do while also being historically accurate. Not very compelling when most soldiers died weeks later from an infection from a battle wound.
Can't be true: "English Patient" won 9 oscars.

Anyone here make it all the way through that movie?

I can see Gibson's point but he thinks from the brothers in arms POV, the battle. "Turn" does the intrigue and planning well. I think the thrill would be found in the chess match f the planning and the battle, not the blood. PLUS you can see someone (almost) die from infections for a whole season!
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I guess I always viewed a civil war as two factions fighting for control of a country, not one looking to maintain control and the other independence.
If the South had won would it have been known as their Revolutionary War?
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Old 03-08-17, 11:24 PM
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If the South had won would it have been known as their Revolutionary War?
Yes. Whether you agree with their stance or not, they were fighting for their independence, not for control over the union.
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If the South had won would it have been known as their Revolutionary War?
Yep and that's the perfect example. The South had no intention of conquering the North.
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Old 03-08-17, 11:29 PM
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...I go every year to D Day-Conneaut and some of my best times have been talking with the WW2 vets (fewer every year) and to listen to their stories. One vet told me a few stories last year that made me LOL and one that brought me to tears. In his mind, it was clear to him as if it happened that day.

I think you would like looking at all the weapons and talking with the reenactors.
I'm definitely going to do my best to go. I checked it out, and you're right. Looks very cool. Thank you again.

Speaking of talking to WW2 vets... Tri-State Warbird Museum is right by my place. I took my son there once when he was about 10. One room had an entire presentation about a bomber that completed all of its missions in Germany. Pictures, models, artifacts. One old man sat in there by himself on a bench. So we went in and we're looking at a pic of the bomber blown up large on a wall. As I'm pointing at the guys, and the different positions in the plane they'd occupy... the little old man put a shaky finger up on the wall and said "That's me." We ended up talking for almost 2 hours. Not ashamed to admit he had me in tears a couple times lol. Anybody in the Cincy area needs to check that place out. Very, very cool. In Batavia.
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Old 03-09-17, 06:32 AM
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Speaking of talking to WW2 vets... Tri-State Warbird Museum is right by my place.
Great little museum. I hope the Corsair is still there. It is such a beautiful aircraft. I went to a lecture there given by a "carpetbagger" which was a black ops unit that was used to insert operatives and resupply resistance units in France.
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Old 03-09-17, 06:36 AM
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Speaking of films that should be made; the Battle of Lake Erie would make a compelling film, as would a good film about Tecumseh. Likely won't happen given the view of Hollywood that nothing worthwhile has ever happened in the Midwest.
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Old 03-09-17, 06:49 AM
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I have not been to Conneaut but I'll look it up. I love that stuff! Thanks.
Don't get caught wearing a German reenactment uniform. A friend of mine was photographed in a SS uniform and it likely cost him a seat in Congress. The argument that you had to have criminals to play cops and robbers and Nazis to reenact WWII did not cut it with the Libs in Toledo.

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Old 03-09-17, 06:50 AM
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Don't get caught wearing a German reenactment uniform. A friend of mine was photographed in a SS uniform and it likely cost him a seat in Congress. The arguement that you had to have criminals to play cops and robbers and Nazis to reenact WWII did not cut it with the Libs in Toledo.
Lol thanks. I'll leave my uniform at home!
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Old 03-09-17, 07:59 AM
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Speaking of films that should be made; the Battle of Lake Erie would make a compelling film, as would a good film about Tecumseh. Likely won't happen given the view of Hollywood that nothing worthwhile has ever happened in the Midwest.
Another war story that would make a great film would be the Battle of Saratoga. You could argue that this was the most important & impressive victory by the Colonial army in the entire Revolutionary War.

It had everything - critical battles (Freeman's Farm & Bemis Heights), the specter of an army marching through a wilderness (the British & German troops were unsettled by the nightly howling of Wolves along their entire march), arrogant British commanders (General Burgoyne); feckless American commanders (General Gates - referred to by his men as "Granny" Gates) and a hero (Benedict Arnold) who would go on to be America's greatest traitor.

This battle, more than any other up to this point in the Revolution showed that the Colonists might win and secured the critical support of France in the American cause.
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Can't be true: "English Patient" won 9 oscars.

Anyone here make it all the way through that movie?
Yes, once.
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Old 03-09-17, 09:05 AM
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The Final Countdown
(USS Nimitz ~ CVN-68 travels thru time warp to Dec 6 1941)
F-14s (VF-84 Jolly Rogers) vs: Japanese Zeros



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The Bridges at Toko-Ri
USS Savo Island ~ F9-F Panthers vs: N.Korea
(actual carriers in the film were the USS Oriskany (CV-34) / USS Kearsarge (CV-33) )



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Battle Hymn

(can we say P-51's)

Based on true events of Ohio minister (WW-II pilot recalled to duty for Korea) and his
role in "Kiddy Car Airlift," the documented rescue of 950 orphans and 80 orphanage staff.



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God is My Co-Pilot

The story (based on autobiography of the same name by Robert Lee Scott, Jr.)
his involvement in the AVG (American Volunteer Group ~ Flying Tigers) against
the Japanese in China. He painted the nose spinner on his P-40 a different color
on missions so the Japanese would think the wereupagainst a larger force.



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:>---

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Old 03-09-17, 09:25 AM
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The Enemy Below
An American Destroyer Escort (DE) hunts for a German U-Boat



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Heaven Knows, Mr. Allison

A US Marine is trapped on a Japanese held island with a Nun.



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Darby's Rangers

The formation and earily days of the WW-II Rangers.
(w/ James Garner as William Orlando Darby)



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The Purple Heart

Loosely based on an actual trial of eight airmen who took part in the April 18, 1942,
Doolittle Raid. Three were executed and one died as a POW.




:>---

S-F
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Some of my favorites:
Dirty Dozen
Hurt Locker
Deer Hunter
Apocalypse Now
Tora Tora Tora
Hunt for Red October
Gods and Generals

On the comedy side:
MASH
Good Morning Vietnam
Stripes
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Old 03-09-17, 10:11 AM
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The Enemy Below
An American Destroyer Escort (DE) hunts for a German U-Boat



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Heaven Knows, Mr. Allison

A US Marine is trapped on a Japanese held island with a Nun.



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Darby's Rangers

The formation and earily days of the WW-II Rangers.
(w/ James Garner as William Orlando Darby)



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The Purple Heart

Loosely based on an actual trial of eight airmen who took part in the April 18, 1942,
Doolittle Raid. Three were executed and one died as a POW.




:>---

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...all very good movies Ohiopup that I've not seen in quite a while.

Curt Jurgens and Robert Mitchum played great roles in Enemy Below and that it was actually Directed and Produced by another good actor Dick Powell.
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Old 03-09-17, 10:27 AM
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... One of my favorites is on Turner Classic Movies tomorrow night, Where Eagles Dare.

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Doh!!!

Duck Soup
Nice!

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When Mel Gibson was promoting the Patriot he discussed the curse of the Revolutionary War movies with a critic and one of the main draw backs is that it was a boring style of warfare so the battle scenes lack a lot of human drama. He tried to make it more interesting and "Private Ryan" the fighting scenes but it is tough to do while also being historically accurate. Not very compelling when most soldiers died weeks later from an infection from a battle wound.
To me it looked like Braveheart part 2. Still haven't seen it.
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close enough
12 years and 8,000 miles.
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12 years and 8,000 miles.
And inspired by a century of the Brits trying to wrest control of the Witwatersrand gold mines away from the Dutch - since the Napoleonic wars.
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...a few more war movies worth a watch

1. The Glory Brigade (Korean War)
2. The Lost Battalion (WW1)---pretty good/lots of action
3. The Wild Geese (Merc's in Africa)
4. The Fighting Seabee's (WW 2)
5. Sink the Bismarck (WW2)
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The Big Lift, another Montgomery Clift post WWII Berlin movie.
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Haven't seen this one on too many lists. Battle scenes are decent and a much better make up job than Gettysburg. What is notable though is the acting, very believable performances including a breakout Oscar for Denzel Washington.



By the way, the Civil War was all about one thing, slavery. States rights was just some BS excuse so that some very rich folks could maintain a free labor force.
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