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Old 03-09-17, 07:15 AM
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Old 03-12-17, 07:53 PM
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Ohio State not in nit lmao.
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Old 03-12-17, 11:44 PM
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Not even getting in the NIT is a new program low under Thaddeus. He has Gene's vote of confidence though so.
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Old 03-13-17, 07:48 AM
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Glad they didn't get in the NIT
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Old 03-13-17, 08:21 AM
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Old 03-13-17, 01:55 PM
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It's finally over,very ugly ending...no interest in the BIG dance this year.
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Old 03-13-17, 07:38 PM
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Old 03-16-17, 03:45 PM
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Enjoy watching the NCAA Tournament filled with Talent (listed Below) that OSU Never recruited or Top Level players who left the state to play elsewhere. 68 + 32 + 26 + 16 = 142 Teams (NCAA, NIT, CIT, CBI) and not one invited Matta's abomination. if Matta lands a percentage of this players off this list they are playing somewhere.....Recruiting real Talent must improve or its time for a change.

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Old 03-17-17, 11:10 PM
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Players with Ohio Ties who went elsewhere


C. Stephen Manley 6-10 230 Pickerington Cen North Carolina
F. Kyle Young 6-7 195 Massillon Jackson Butler
G. Jeremiah Francis 6-2 180 Pickerington Cen Undecided
G. Nick Weatherspoon 6-2 175 Camden, MS Mississipi State

C. Nick Ward 6-9 240 Gahanna Lincoln Michigan State
F. Omari Spellman 6-9 275 North Royalton Villanova
F. VJ King 6-8 180 Fairfax Paul VI Louisville
F. Seth Towns 6-7 190 Columbus Northland Harvard
F. Henry Badley 6-6 180 Akron STVM Butler
G. Markell Johnson 6-1 175 Cleveland East Tech NC State

F. Carlton Bragg 6-9 226 Cleveland VASJ Kansas
F. Esa Ahmad 6-8 215 Shaker Heights West Virginia
G. Luke Kennard 6-5 180 Franklin Duke
G. Jalen Hudson 6-5 195 Akron STVM Florida

F. Nigel Hayes 6-7 215 Toledo Whitmer Wisconsin
G Devin Williams 6-2 220 Cincinnati, Ohio West Virginia
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Old 03-18-17, 11:38 AM
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Players with Ohio Ties who went elsewhere


C. Stephen Manley 6-10 230 Pickerington Cen North Carolina
F. Kyle Young 6-7 195 Massillon Jackson Butler
G. Jeremiah Francis 6-2 180 Pickerington Cen Undecided
G. Nick Weatherspoon 6-2 175 Camden, MS Mississipi State

C. Nick Ward 6-9 240 Gahanna Lincoln Michigan State
F. Omari Spellman 6-9 275 North Royalton Villanova
F. VJ King 6-8 180 Fairfax Paul VI Louisville
F. Seth Towns 6-7 190 Columbus Northland Harvard
F. Henry Badley 6-6 180 Akron STVM Butler
G. Markell Johnson 6-1 175 Cleveland East Tech NC State

F. Carlton Bragg 6-9 226 Cleveland VASJ Kansas
F. Esa Ahmad 6-8 215 Shaker Heights West Virginia
G. Luke Kennard 6-5 180 Franklin Duke
G. Jalen Hudson 6-5 195 Akron STVM Florida

F. Nigel Hayes 6-7 215 Toledo Whitmer Wisconsin
G Devin Williams 6-2 220 Cincinnati, Ohio West Virginia
For one, I'm ready to say good bye to Thad now, for many reasons, but he did attempt to recruit the players in bold. A couple, I believe, were casualties of grades, but for the most part Thad failed to entice any of them to OSU. And I was always puzzled why they never went after Hayes.
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Old 03-18-17, 12:03 PM
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Why go to Ohio State to play in front of an empty arena that doesn't care about basketball?
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Old 03-19-17, 11:10 AM
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For one, I'm ready to say good bye to Thad now, for many reasons, but he did attempt to recruit the players in bold. A couple, I believe, were casualties of grades, but for the most part Thad failed to entice any of them to OSU. And I was always puzzled why they never went after Hayes.
Actually, they offered Seth Towns as well. He wanted to do something different than Sullinger by going to Harvard; I don't see how anyone can blame Thad (or Seth) for that. Harvard is a unique opportunity.

http://www.cleveland.com/osu/index.s..._offers_c.html

Francis also may end up at Ohio State, in addition to Funderburk, Potter, Wesson, Goodwin, and Bazley.

http://www.cleveland.com/osu/2017/02..._ohio_gua.html

While I don't like kids like Ward going off to Michigan State, there are only so many slots on the roster. Who was Matta supposed to give up to get Ward -- Funderburk or Potter? If he gets Ward, people will complain that Funderburk or Potter went somewhere else.

Let's recall that Javon Bess didn't work out at Michigan State, just like AJ Harris didn't pan out at Ohio State, so there are no guarantees in life. Let's also recall that Ward was leaning towards Michigan State from the get-go, because of his connection to Bess from being teammates at Gahanna.

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/co...ward/26614345/

I still don't see the fascination with Archie. The Flyers were one-and-done again this year, and they were the higher seed again as well. Why anyone would want him over Marshall is beyond me.

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Old 03-19-17, 11:13 AM
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Players with Ohio Ties who went elsewhere


C. Stephen Manley 6-10 230 Pickerington Cen North Carolina
F. Kyle Young 6-7 195 Massillon Jackson Butler
G. Jeremiah Francis 6-2 180 Pickerington Cen Undecided
G. Nick Weatherspoon 6-2 175 Camden, MS Mississipi State

C. Nick Ward 6-9 240 Gahanna Lincoln Michigan State
F. Omari Spellman 6-9 275 North Royalton Villanova
F. VJ King 6-8 180 Fairfax Paul VI Louisville
F. Seth Towns 6-7 190 Columbus Northland Harvard
F. Henry Badley 6-6 180 Akron STVM Butler
G. Markell Johnson 6-1 175 Cleveland East Tech NC State

F. Carlton Bragg 6-9 226 Cleveland VASJ Kansas
F. Esa Ahmad 6-8 215 Shaker Heights West Virginia
G. Luke Kennard 6-5 180 Franklin Duke
G. Jalen Hudson 6-5 195 Akron STVM Florida

F. Nigel Hayes 6-7 215 Toledo Whitmer Wisconsin
G Devin Williams 6-2 220 Cincinnati, Ohio West Virginia
Don't forget Nate Fowler
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Old 03-19-17, 12:41 PM
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Actually, they offered Seth Towns as well. He wanted to do something different than Sullinger by going to Harvard; I don't see how anyone can blame Thad (or Seth) for that. Harvard is a unique opportunity.

http://www.cleveland.com/osu/index.s..._offers_c.html

Francis also may end up at Ohio State, in addition to Funderburk, Potter, Wesson, Goodwin, and Bazley.

http://www.cleveland.com/osu/2017/02..._ohio_gua.html

While I don't like kids like Ward going off to Michigan State, there are only so many slots on the roster. Who was Matta supposed to give up to get Ward -- Funderburk or Potter? If he gets Ward, people will complain that Funderburk or Potter went somewhere else.

Let's recall that Javon Bess didn't work out at Michigan State, just like AJ Harris didn't pan out at Ohio State, so there are no guarantees in life. Let's also recall that Ward was leaning towards Michigan State from the get-go, because of his connection to Bess from being teammates at Gahanna.

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/co...ward/26614345/

I still don't see the fascination with Archie. The Flyers were one-and-done again this year, and they were the higher seed again as well. Why anyone would want him over Marshall is beyond me.
As I was reading this, I was struck by the thought that I really couldn't explain a rhyme or reason to Thad's recruiting pattern, but that Izzo has a fairly discernible recruiting "template". His recruits almost always are clear fits to Izzo's system and style of play. Thad? Not so sure, other than he prefers length on the perimeter (why recruit AJ Harris?).

As for Archie Miller, I tend to think he would make the leap forward if given the resources and big stage at Ohio State. Same with Chris Mack. I would rather have Marshall, but I think he would be harder to get...and he is much older than the other two, I believe. Those are not the only three possibles, of course.
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Old 03-19-17, 12:45 PM
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I think OSU fans need to collectively forget Chris Mack. Nothing about him and the the programs suggests he would leave for OSU.
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Old 03-19-17, 01:00 PM
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I think OSU fans need to collectively forget Chris Mack. Nothing about him and the the programs suggests he would leave for OSU.
Being that he is an XU alum, perhaps...but OSU would be foolish not to put out feelers to him if they look to replace Thad at some point in the near future (likely next year).
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Old 03-19-17, 02:59 PM
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I think OSU fans need to collectively forget Chris Mack. Nothing about him and the the programs suggests he would leave for OSU.
I also think he's overrated anyway
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Old 03-19-17, 05:35 PM
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I still don't see the fascination with Archie. The Flyers were one-and-done again this year, and they were the higher seed again as well. Why anyone would want him over Marshall is beyond me.
I agree, FormerWildcat. I don't want OSU to hire Archie Miller as their head coach. I mean that. Keep him at UD.
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Old 03-19-17, 05:37 PM
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I don't think anyone wants Archie over Marshall, but I see a maybe 1% or less chance that Marshall would take the Ohio State job. Also, criticizing Archie for losing first round to Wichita State, which is good enough to be a 2 seed, is disingenuous to me
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Old 03-19-17, 05:40 PM
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I don't think anyone wants Archie over Marshall, but I see a maybe 1% or less chance that Marshall would take the Ohio State job. Also, criticizing Archie for losing first round to Wichita State, which is good enough to be a 2 seed, is disingenuous to me
...or the Syracuse team from last year that finally lost in the Final Four to North Carolina.

Underseeded Wichita State gave the Kentucky 5-star blue-chips a good game. Archie has 2-star and 3-stars on his roster.

BTW, I'm a UD fan first. Buckeyes second. Keep Archie at UD.
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Old 03-19-17, 05:46 PM
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I'd eat out my mother if OSU got Marshall
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Not gonna happen. OSU isn't a good enough program to land Marshall. Also I don't think age is a negative on attaining him either. Never understood that thought process. It's not like coaches stay at one job for 20 plus years.
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Old 03-19-17, 06:55 PM
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Plus bball coaches are often elite even into their 70s
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Old 03-20-17, 03:56 PM
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Concern should be very high in regards to recruiting and player development if IU hits on the level of Illinois' Underwood hire or better. Two out-of-state regional hot spots may be near impossible to go into and haul out anyone of note.

In-state recruiting has to improve. Add Purdue's Edwards (Middletown) and UC's Cumberland (Wilmington) to the above list of whiffs.
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Eh. OSU took KDB and Tate over Edwards. Not the level of scorer of Edwards but both are darn good players.

And OSU had Grandstaff and Lyle enrolled before Cumberland committed to UC. Pretty unheard of for a school to land 3 highly rated SGs when none are one and dones in back to back classes. Thad had all of what, 4 months to flip/recruit Cumberland after Grandstaff decided to transfer.
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Also, criticizing Archie for losing first round to Wichita State, which is good enough to be a 2 seed, is disingenuous to me
There is no way Wichita State was good enough to be a 2 seed. I think they were a lot like Dayton in that their record looked really good, but they play in a really weak league overall.

The Shockers didn't have any "big name" wins, but they didn't have any "bad losses" either. They basically beat all of the scrub teams in their league they were supposed to beat, and they lost to Louisville, Michigan State, and Oklahoma State.

Prior to beating Dayton, their biggest win was probably Oklahoma, who really wasn't that good this year. So, while I would readily agree they were better than a 10 seed, their schedule wouldn't support anything better than a 7 or 8 seed, IMO.
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There is no way Wichita State was good enough to be a 2 seed. I think they were a lot like Dayton in that their record looked really good, but they play in a really weak league overall.

The Shockers didn't have any "big name" wins, but they didn't have any "bad losses" either. They basically beat all of the scrub teams in their league they were supposed to beat, and they lost to Louisville, Michigan State, and Oklahoma State.

Prior to beating Dayton, their biggest win was probably Oklahoma, who really wasn't that good this year. So, while I would readily agree they were better than a 10 seed, their schedule wouldn't support anything better than a 7 or 8 seed, IMO.
I'm not saying they SHOULD have been a 2 seed, but their team is good enough to be one. There was no shame in losing a close game to them.
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(why recruit AJ Harris?)
Harris was very highly ranked at somewhere around the #80-#90 recruit in the nation. He also came from Dayton Dunbar, and I think Dunbar's reputation had a bit to do with it as well.

http://www.cleveland.com/osu/2015/03..._aj_harri.html

Ironically, the only guy who "made the cut" from that recruiting class was the guy who was added at the last second, because of Russell's unexpected one-and-done season.

http://www.cleveland.com/osu/index.s...ussell_oh.html
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