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Old 03-14-17, 10:03 AM
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Maybe not you, but several have posted about how bad the show is in their eyes for a long time. Ive stopped watching shows before when they dropped in quality. Thats my suggestion. much easier than continuing to watch just for the sake of it. And while that should be the goal for some shows, I totally understand and am ok with them going along with the comic. Theyre bringing the comic books to life. This isnt an independent show.
I mirror Sykotyk's position. I'm close to dropping this show as several other series have become much more entertaining for me. But I've been watching since the start and I have never read the comic so I'm curious to see how it ends. So for me it's a balance of time invested to date versus time I'm willing to invest going forward. And the balance is almost at a tipping point.

The other factor is that IMO the quality has slowly but steadily degraded since the first couple of excellent seasons. More recently the drop off in quality has been startling to me. BTW, I started this thread and most of my comments up until the last few months have been very positive. My negative take has been rather recent.
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Old 03-14-17, 06:22 PM
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Putting Rosita back in her short shorts, crop top and bandoleers would certainly help.
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Old 03-14-17, 06:33 PM
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In real life, Alexandria, VA got several inches of snow last night.
That's one big issue I have with the story, and I guess the comic. If anyone been to Alexandria, Virginia, this area they're at looks NOTHING like it. Secondly, it's ridiculous to think that they managed to travel that far without working gas stations, roads of consistent impassibility, the distance needed to travel, and the routes they'd need to take and the cities they'd travel through.

It's much more believable that they're only 50-60 miles outside the 285 loop around Atlanta. Such as northeast of Athens, Georgia, southwest of Augusta or so. That would make sense. It would also fit quite well with the cinematography shown in the show.

Unless being near the capital is an extremely pressing point, it'd be much more believable that they didn't get far. And as the reality the world has entirely collapsed, the need to keep traveling north becomes harder. Heading due north into the southern fringe of the Appalachians and the Smoky Mountains and the western edge of North Carolina would actually work better.

At least one thing about FTWD made sense in that they headed for the water given their location.
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Old 03-19-17, 09:58 PM
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Wow, what an episode! A couple of observations:

* What have they done to Daryl? One of the coolest & baddest characters on TWD has been reduced to a sobbing wreck.

* Nice parameter defense Negan, you moron. Tell me again how this guy survived to built a bad a## organization.

* Oh and I thought the Saviors had this huge army that was unassailable! Based on those two lady's walking right up to Negans front door (er gate) and busting in it looks like Richard from the "Kingdom" was right. A sudden concentrated attack on Negans stronghold and it's goodby Negan.

* Oh and while we're on the topic of Sasha & Rosie setting up that awesome sniper position looking down on Negan's main compound someone needs to explain to the ladies that when you're staking a guy out to shoot him one of you has to be looking out the window at all times to see if your target shows up. You both can't be sitting there having a girl to girl chat about past boyfriends & lost love while Negan goes in & out of the building.
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Old 03-19-17, 10:33 PM
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OK, I know it is a minor detail but it distracted me to the extent I could not enjoy the episode. That "knot" Sasha wanted to learn was so incredibly BS. Did anmyone else catch it? She simply made a "bite" (thats a bend in the rope) and went around and through to make a "knot" that any three year old could make. In fact, it is the type of knot that one makes by mistake when they are trying to tie a real knot that can actually be used for something. That "knot" is easier than tying one's shoe laces.

So lame!
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Old 03-20-17, 06:48 AM
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OK, I know it is a minor detail but it distracted me to the extent I could not enjoy the episode. That "knot" Sasha wanted to learn was so incredibly BS. Did anmyone else catch it? She simply made a "bite" (thats a bend in the rope) and went around and through to make a "knot" that any three year old could make. In fact, it is the type of knot that one makes by mistake when they are trying to tie a real knot that can actually be used for something. That "knot" is easier than tying one's shoe laces.

So lame!
Yeah but it looked cool lol.
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Old 03-20-17, 08:45 AM
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Yeah no kidding, at least have her tie a running bowline.

Did Jesus come out of the closet early on? If so why are they insistent upon forcing that crap on us? There is just no need.
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Old 03-20-17, 11:54 AM
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Unfortunately, I saw enough of the episode to see Sasha and Rosita crying over Abe and talking about past relationships. I had to turn it off after that to focus on the games.

Did Jesus really come out of the closet? I was curious if he ever would becuase his character was gay in the comic. Gimple has a huge obsession with the comic which has aided in the show going downhill.
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Old 03-21-17, 10:23 AM
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Unfortunately, I saw enough of the episode to see Sasha and Rosita crying over Abe and talking about past relationships. I had to turn it off after that to focus on the games.

Did Jesus really come out of the closet? I was curious if he ever would becuase his character was gay in the comic. Gimple has a huge obsession with the comic which has aided in the show going downhill.
...I have watched every episode of TWD and they are starting to lose me as a fan. Every week is about a different character the entire show (this week Sasha and Rosita) and it might all be about $$$$$. If they do a show with just a few characters in it with speaking lines, then that's all they have to pay but it sucks for the viewers because while they have us walk through these characters lives for the entire hour, it makes me want to shut it off!
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Old 03-21-17, 01:57 PM
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Did Jesus really come out of the closet? I was curious if he ever would becuase his character was gay in the comic. Gimple has a huge obsession with the comic which has aided in the show going downhill.
Yes, he did. It was funny because when he was in the room with Maggie, someone I was watching it with wondered if he was going to hook up with Maggie and my response was I doubt it because I think that he is going to come out as gay on this show. Just a few minutes passed before he made the comment about not being able to get close to a boyfriend.
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Old 03-21-17, 02:00 PM
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I thought Sunday's episode was weak for the same reasons as lotr10 posted. It just doesn't make sense that their defense is so weak that two people could be in a building able to take out any person they wanted. And why didn't they wait for another opportunity instead of having to go inside.

The show is still interesting to me but I wish the writers would be a little more critical in their thought process to understand what is possible and what takes a huge mental leap to believe in their stories.
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Old 03-21-17, 02:12 PM
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Yes, he did. It was funny because when he was in the room with Maggie, someone I was watching it with wondered if he was going to hook up with Maggie and my response was I doubt it because I think that he is going to come out as gay on this show. Just a few minutes passed before he made the comment about not being able to get close to a boyfriend.
I'm a left leaning individual but most gay people would tell you that was gay.

Like I said before, I no longer am glued to the TV like I used to be. It was subtle but I thought I heard him make the "boyfriend" comment. But as I stated before there is just no need at this point. I do not care if he is gay or straight but why now? We have already had at least 4 gay characters. Maybe next season Eugene can come out transgender and demand his own bathroom. Things just do not add up anymore. Too many subplots. You no longer relate to characters.

But I'm so darn invested.
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Old 03-21-17, 02:42 PM
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...I have watched every episode of TWD and they are starting to lose me as a fan. Every week is about a different character the entire show (this week Sasha and Rosita) and it might all be about $$$$$. If they do a show with just a few characters in it with speaking lines, then that's all they have to pay but it sucks for the viewers because while they have us walk through these characters lives for the entire hour, it makes me want to shut it off!
I said the same thing to my wife a couple of weeks ago. We concluded the actress who plays Rosita must not make as much money per episode as the rest of the cast because she's one character that seems to have been in almost every episode in this half of the season.
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Old 03-21-17, 03:00 PM
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But I'm so darn invested.
That is the biggest draw for me. I've spent so much time watching this that I just don't feel like I can stop watching. It's a big part of why I watch "Fear The Walking Dead" also.

I think the storyline is a great idea and they got it out there first, so I'm going to follow it to its conclusion. Hopefully they don't drag it on indefinitely.
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Old 03-21-17, 03:49 PM
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I thought Sunday's episode was weak for the same reasons as lotr10 posted. It just doesn't make sense that their defense is so weak that two people could be in a building able to take out any person they wanted. And why didn't they wait for another opportunity instead of having to go inside.

The show is still interesting to me but I wish the writers would be a little more critical in their thought process to understand what is possible and what takes a huge mental leap to believe in their stories.
I only caught bits and pieces of the episode as I was more interested in the basketball games but didn't Rosita and Sasha leave the building they were in because they heard over the walkie for saviors to sweep surrounding buildings looking for more walkers? I guess that's why they couldn't wait for another opportunity.

Your point is valid though, the sanctuary was supposed to be so well hidden and protected, why did they make it so easy for them to walk in without anyone noticing.
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Old 03-27-17, 09:23 AM
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Anyone watch last night?
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Old 03-27-17, 11:20 AM
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I watched it last night. Seems to be setting up the big battle with Negan really well. Just figure we are at least a season away from the culmination of that battle. Curious where the storyline with Eugene is going to go?
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Old 03-27-17, 11:31 AM
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I watched it last night. Seems to be setting up the big battle with Negan really well. Just figure we are at least a season away from the culmination of that battle. Curious where the storyline with Eugene is going to go?
Can't put a finger on Eugene. Part of me wants to believe he is going to put a plan in place to help take down Negan from the inside. On the other hand, I really think he's just covering his own arse making sure he survives. He is a coward and the protection of Negan ensures his survival for the time being.

I was disappointed in the Oceanside group. I had hoped at least some of them would join the fight and tell Natania she's on her own. Maybe they will make a surprise appearance next week or most certainly season 8. Two of them really seemed like they wanted to join.

Dwight is interesting. Curious to see how that plays out.

How do you suppose Negan caught wind of Rick and his plan? Not sure of the timeline and how the events unfolded but my guess is it's the junkyard kids. Never did trust them.
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Old 03-27-17, 12:12 PM
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I watched it last night. Seems to be setting up the big battle with Negan really well. Just figure we are at least a season away from the culmination of that battle. Curious where the storyline with Eugene is going to go?


I'm thinking Negan is gone by next mid season.


I expect Eugene, Sasha, Dwight and Gregory to all bite it next week.


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Old 03-27-17, 12:45 PM
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Better episode then the last couple of weeks and SLOWLY but surely we're heading towards the big showdown. But am I the only one who thinks the season will end with both groups pointing their guns at each other but no real shots being taken.

One other point, the Ocean side story line was very weak. It doesn't help that Rick is acting goofier each episode. Why not leave one or two handguns for the women? It would hardly make a difference to the upcoming battle. In fact why wouldn't Rick bargain and leave a couple of guns in exchange for a couple of the nastier women joining the fight. The excuse that the women made for not joining up was that without guns they needed to stay behind to help protect the rest of the community. Not an unreasonable point.
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Old 03-27-17, 12:54 PM
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Better episode then the last couple of weeks and SLOWLY but surely we're heading towards the big showdown. But am I the only one who thinks the season will end with both groups pointing their guns at each other but no real shots being taken.

One other point, the Ocean side story line was very weak. It doesn't help that Rick is acting goofier each episode. Why not leave one or two handguns for the women? It would hardly make a difference to the upcoming battle. In fact why wouldn't Rick bargain and leave a couple of guns in exchange for a couple of the nastier women joining the fight. The excuse that the women made for not joining up was that without guns they needed to stay behind to help protect the rest of the community. Not an unreasonable point.
No, I don't. I think we will see plenty of action and gunfire. Two reasons: 1. The season has been so slow, the show-runners are going to end with something big (it's just what they do). 2. Since I am a comic reader, I see a couple different scenes that will almost have to and/or should play out this week. I definitely think we will see a battle with the actual war saved for season 8.

Agreed 100% on Oceanside. I find it far more believable to have the group, or at least some of them, leave the community and join the fight. And no, they didn't have to take all the guns. I find it odd Rick would do that considering Negan did that very thing to him. He knows what's it's like to be helpless and not able to defend themselves. A handful of guns would not have been a big deal.
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Old 03-27-17, 02:24 PM
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I tried to think how Negan found out about their plot and it HAS to be Gregory.

Would Negan be slick enough, and Dwight a lap dog enough, to send him to Alexandria prior to be a spy/insider? Keep in mind Negan told Sasha it will be a big day tomorrow.

I'm ready for Gregory's puzz arse to go. I have a feeling Eugene will have some genius hidden plot that will be unveiled last minute. If not he can get rubbed out at any moment as well.

For all the praise Jeffery Dean Morgan gets for play Negan I think Steve Ogg is just as great as Simon.
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Old 03-27-17, 02:31 PM
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IMHO the finale will be a blood bath with one of the main characters in peril at the end. IMHO several minor characters will eat it. I expect the junkyarders to turn on Rick and his allies, hope their leader gets creamed. I think the oceansiders will come in at some point helping out the good guys like the cavalry. My hope is that Carl, Eugene, Gabriel get it. As an aside there are a lot of gay couples in the apocalypse.
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IMHO the finale will be a blood bath with one of the main characters in peril at the end. IMHO several minor characters will eat it. I expect the junkyarders to turn on Rick and his allies, hope their leader gets creamed. I think the oceansiders will come in at some point helping out the good guys like the cavalry. My hope is that Carl, Eugene, Gabriel get it. As an aside there are a lot of gay couples in the apocalypse.
The only reason Carl would die is bc the actor playing him is going off to College next year.
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Old 03-27-17, 03:47 PM
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My hope is that Carl, Eugene, Gabriel get it.
Ditto. Although I kind of like Eugene being on Negan's side. It allows us to build up some more hatred for his character before they put him out of his misery.
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Ditto. Although I kind of like Eugene being on Negan's side. It allows us to build up some more hatred for his character before they put him out of his misery.
I'm sure if he ever gets it he will be a sniveling coward.
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Two comments/predictions:

1. Negan did not know about any Alexandria plans, he just used Sasha to comfirm his suspicions.

2. Eugene will find himself in a situation where he either must watch his friends get slaughtered or he will need to make one last noble act of self-sacrifice to save his friends. He will choose the beau geste.
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Two comments/predictions:

1. Negan did not know about any Alexandria plans, he just used Sasha to comfirm his suspicions.

2. Eugene will find himself in a situation where he either must watch his friends get slaughtered or he will need to make one last noble act of self-sacrifice to save his friends. He will choose the beau geste.


what did Sasha say other than calling Rick "Negan's b1tch "?



I think Eugene is now firmly on the dark side and will get killed by one of Rick's group. That's my hope at least. I don't want to see him flip yet again.
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Eugene will redeem himself last minute and then die. Hopefully.

There was a scene from the previous week where Gregory was talking to Simon behind some buildings and they left out the dialogue.

Last night Gregory tells his slave boy to pack, they're leaving. Although he doesn't know Rick and the groups entire plan, he does know they are plotting. He is going to leave after ratting everyone out. I find it hard to believe that a leader of a group at in the ZA cannot kill a walker with a knife.

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Eugene will redeem himself last minute and then die. Hopefully.

There was a scene from the previous week where Gregory was talking to Simon behind some buildings and they left out the dialogue.

Last night Gregory tells his slave boy to pack, their leaving. Although he doesn't know Rick and the groups entire plan, he does know they are plotting. He is going to leave after ratting everyone out. I find it hard to believe that a leader of a group at in the ZA cannot kill a walker with a knife.
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