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Old 12-21-18, 10:29 PM
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Not saying Green is good or bad....I was at the game and the refs had nothing to do with Green winning. And yes, I had to comment because it's a joke to say the refs were awful. I've seen bad games by refs...this wasnt one of them.
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Old 12-21-18, 10:34 PM
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The refs were awful period point blank.. they let green foul, travel, and double dribble too many times in the first half.. it wasn’t a fair contest. But we will recover because it’s more basketball to be played go troll somewhere else
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Old 12-21-18, 11:11 PM
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The refs were awful period point blank.. they let green foul, travel, and double dribble too many times in the first half.. it wasnít a fair contest. But we will recover because itís more basketball to be played
Tomorrow night we face traditional rival St. Ignatius @ the Fieldhouse. We have to come out strong with intensity to be in it. The Wildcats like to press most years, so there has to be focus with the ball and without it. Hopefully we bounce back.
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Old 12-21-18, 11:13 PM
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Well just to give a little of what I saw, number 5 for green stepped out of bounds on a baseline drive with both feet and the ref looked right at his feet and never called it and just let him drive for the bucket then gave a high five to one of the green cheerleaders then the same ref let #22 for green push his way to the hoop and travel all in same play and gave another high five to same cheerleader, yes it really happened because it was directly in front of where I was sitting
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Old 12-21-18, 11:25 PM
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Not saying Green is good or bad....I was at the game and the refs had nothing to do with Green winning. And yes, I had to comment because it's a joke to say the refs were awful. I've seen bad games by refs...this wasnt one of them.
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Old 12-22-18, 12:19 AM
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So just to be clear Green cheated to win tonight? Wow you Mckinley fans never cease to amaze me. God forbid anybody just beat you...and beat you bad. I know it hurts when a group of well coached suburban boys just beat you like a drum. Have some class!
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Old 12-22-18, 12:22 AM
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Let me get this straight you came into a McKinley thread to read about what we are saying to each other Green won nobody is denying that.. beat like a drum naw it was 12 points.. go to a green thread and comment
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Old 12-22-18, 12:31 AM
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When McKinley losses to Green it takes more excuses then the refs.
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Old 12-22-18, 07:00 AM
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Let's see how the kids respond against St Iggy,still looking for that leader.
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Old 12-22-18, 08:40 AM
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No one is denying green being good we are all just stating what we saw which was clearly obviously directly in front of us
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Old 12-22-18, 09:42 AM
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The refs....same as most fed games...but McKinley has some serious issues
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Old 12-22-18, 10:56 AM
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Let me start by saying this is not a troll question. As an outsider looking in I was expecting McKinley to be pretty good this year. Based on what people said during the scrimmages this squad sounded like it was going to be solid. How can a team go from looking so promising to the current state this early in the season. Was the expectations to high, were they overrated a bit or is there a different issue ?

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Old 12-22-18, 11:29 AM
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Blah Blah Blah....And I'm sure you saw 100 fouls committed by Green only and not called.
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Old 12-22-18, 12:18 PM
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Let me start by saying this is not a troll question. As an outsider looking in I was expecting McKinley to be pretty good this year. Based on what people said during the scrimmages this squad sounded like it was going to be solid. How can a team go from looking so promising to the current state this early in the season. Was the expectations to high, were they overrated a bit or is there a different issue ?

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Scrimmages are fools gold in both football and basketball. This is a very young team and i think some of us were really excited about getting back to where we belong as Ohio's winningest program. But it's very early in the season and there is understandably much improvement to be made. Green is a good team and their coach is a really good one. Green didn't cheat. Two of the refs appeared to have an aversion to diversity. Might have liked watching kids put in cages at the border types. Its a serious problem in our league, and an extra hurdle to jump for our kids that others don't often see.
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Old 12-22-18, 12:24 PM
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Well just to give a little of what I saw, number 5 for green stepped out of bounds on a baseline drive with both feet and the ref looked right at his feet and never called it and just let him drive for the bucket then gave a high five to one of the green cheerleaders then the same ref let #22 for green push his way to the hoop and travel all in same play and gave another high five to same cheerleader, yes it really happened because it was directly in front of where I was sitting

I saw that one, too. It was mindblowingly crazy and in your face blatant, like so many other bad things going on out there today.
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Old 12-22-18, 12:55 PM
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Objectively, McKinley needs to take care of the basketball and shoot better. The ref issue is typically a go-to defense for people unwilling to objectively evaluate their team. McKinley was down by 22 points at one point in the game, that's not the refs guys. Give Green their due, they are a good team, and hope McKinley gets to work making themselves better. If they don't it won't be the refs to blame.
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Old 12-22-18, 01:36 PM
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I didn't see the game so I cannot comment on the refs.

However, I have seen hundreds of Federal League games over the past few years. If McKinley fans really think that the refs are out to get them, they are ridiculous and need to start really questioning their sanity. Do the refs make bad calls? Yes, but I have seen it both ways. They aren't out to get anybody. Play better and quit blaming the refs.

I also think that McKinley was overvalued and Green undervalued at this point in the season.

Green has Martin who is a Senior and has played Varsity since his Freshman year. The other main contributors are Juniors who have also played Varsity since their Freshman years. They are very good and experienced. They have played together for a long time and have a good coach who has been with them the whole time. Before the season I saw no reason why they wouldn't be League Champs and win the District. At this point they are probably the favorite.

McKinley is young and their older players aren't that good. They have a new coach this year and their younger players don't have the need experience yet. Also the past few years they have been rather average.

Just my two cents.
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Old 12-22-18, 07:23 PM
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In front of a nice Xmas party size gathering Ignatius JV overcomes a 5 point halftime deficit for the win. Final was 57-51 I believe. Tool it down pretty quickly.
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Old 12-22-18, 07:34 PM
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In front of a nice Xmas party size gathering Ignatius JV overcomes a 5 point halftime deficit for the win. Final was 57-51 I believe. Tool it down pretty quickly.
It must be nice to be able to report on a game and not have to be bothered with stuff that doesn't belong there, or anywhere for that matter.
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Old 12-22-18, 07:49 PM
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18-8 Ignatius after 1.
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Old 12-22-18, 07:53 PM
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18-8 Ignatius after 1.
JJBulldog has a theory why this might be...
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Old 12-22-18, 07:55 PM
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Ahhhhh...the refs were racist, thatís your argument?!?! Ok Bud, thatís certainly taking it up a notch. You sir, are pathetic. What an absolutely ridiculous excuse for losing the game. I guess thereís nothing McKinley can do then to improve their own play and decision making because the refs will always be racist against them? Ridiculous...
Never said it was an excuse for losing that game. Green could have won, anyway. What happened, happened and it doesn't belong in basketball or in life, period.
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Old 12-22-18, 08:06 PM
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39-27 Ignatius at halftime. Plan on seeing a lot of zone the rest of the year.
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Old 12-22-18, 08:21 PM
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39-31 Ignatius. 5:33 left in 3rd.
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Old 12-22-18, 08:30 PM
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Merry Christmas to you JJ. Wish the Pups luck the rest of the way.
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Old 12-22-18, 08:37 PM
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46 all after 3.
Johnson fouled shooting a 3 with 2.5 seconds left. Makes all 3. Much better defensively. Turned them over and got some easy baskets.
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Old 12-22-18, 08:38 PM
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McKinley in double bonus entire 4th Qtr.
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Old 12-22-18, 08:40 PM
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51 All with 5:54 left.
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Old 12-22-18, 08:44 PM
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Hall makes two FT. Pups up 56-51 with 4:07 left.
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Old 12-22-18, 08:45 PM
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Same score with 3:20 left.
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