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Old 08-09-17, 01:54 PM
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turf
tərf/Submit
noun
1.
grass and the surface layer of earth held together by its roots.
"they walked across the springy turf"
synonyms: grass, lawn, sod
"they walked over a patch of turf"

We have turf.
Just to clarify, 'turf' in this context is shorthand for 'artificial turf'. Call it categorical laziness. But, your attempt at sarcasm missed its mark.
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Old 08-09-17, 02:17 PM
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MOGADORE local and MOGADORE Field local both grass. Hope it always will be. There is something about the fresh lines of a grass field. Not fan of the fake stuff!!
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Old 08-09-17, 03:29 PM
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Does your field have turf or natural grass?

North Coast League playing surfaces

Blue Division

Benedictine turf (Bedford)
Hoban turf
Padua turf
NDCL turf
Lake Catholic turf (Mentor)
Walsh Jesuit turf

White Division

Aquinas turf
Cleveland Central Catholic turf
Gilmour Academy turf - joining in 2018
Trinity turf (Bedford)
VASJ turf (Euclid)

VASJ before this season was only NCL school playing on grass




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Old 08-09-17, 03:42 PM
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Butler - Turf
Greenville - Turf
Piqua- Turf
Sidney - Turf
Tipp - Grass (Scheduled to transition to turf)
Troy - Grass
When did Greenville get turf?
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Old 08-09-17, 03:49 PM
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MOGADORE local and MOGADORE Field local both grass. Hope it always will be. There is something about the fresh lines of a grass field. Not fan of the fake stuff!!
While I agree that real grass is best in theory, in practice field turf is the only smart way to go. This allows for many more levels of football and other sports to play on the primary school field and makes for fairer contests, especially later in the season. Also, field turf is years advanced over that lousy astro turf that was used from the 70s-90s.
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Old 08-09-17, 06:48 PM
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Nice little video of Troy Memorial Stadium. One of the few left with natural grass.
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Old 08-09-17, 09:13 PM
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When did Greenville get turf?
This summer. It was finished last week. New grandstands coming next.

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Old 08-09-17, 09:20 PM
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This summer. It was finished last week. New grandstands coming next.

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Wow! Props to Greenville for putting some money into their stadium. Cant wait to see the new stands.
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Old 08-09-17, 09:32 PM
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Suburban League - National:
Brecksville - artificial
North Royalton - artificial
Twinsburg - artificial
Hudson - artificial
Wadsworth - artificial
Nordonia - artificial
Stow - not sure
Cuyahoga Falls - grass (unless they switched in the last year)

CVC - Chagrin:
Beachwood - artificial
Chagrin Falls - artificial
Geneva - artificial (at SPIRE)
P. Harvey - artificial (share with Lake Erie College)
Orange - artificial
Perry (Lake) - artificial
West G - artificial
Wickliffe - grass

CVC - Valley:
Berkshire - grass
Cardinal - grass
Fairport - grass
Richmond Hts - grass
Kirtland - grass
Hawken - artificial
Cuyahoga Hts - artificial
Independence - artificial

GCC:
Mentor - artificial
Shaker - artificial
Euclid - moving to artificial this year
Solon - artificial
Brunswick - artificial
Medina - artificial
Strongsville - artificial
Elyria - moving to artificial this year or next year

WRC:
Brush - artificial
Mayfield - artificial
Riverside - grass (I think)
Madison - grass
Will. South - artificial, new this year
Eastlake North - artificial, new this year
Kenston - artificial
Chardon - artificial

east side private's not in league: University School - artificial; Gilmour - artificial
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Old 08-09-17, 09:34 PM
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While I agree that real grass is best in theory, in practice field turf is the only smart way to go.
Cost/benefit analysis is not so clear cut, depending on the size of the school.
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Old 08-09-17, 10:03 PM
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Wow! Props to Greenville for putting some money into their stadium. Cant wait to see the new stands.
That'll hopefully be for next season. There's also supposed to be a new locker room/concession/restroom/possibly wrestling facility built on the grounds as well. It would service both the stadium and the new track and field facility being built adjacent to the stadium.

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Old 08-09-17, 10:13 PM
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Cost/benefit analysis is not so clear cut, depending on the size of the school.
It does cost more. But you can do so much more with the field. My HS had grass. The school and field was located on reclaimed swamp lands donated for a new school. Drainage was never right. And you had Varsity, JV, and for a long time the local D3 college playing on Saturdays. Nothing else could be done in the stadium because of the problem with grass. The slightest rain turned it into a slick mud pit.

Got turf, now they can host all their games, Varsity, JV, Junior High, practices, started soccer teams, host playoff games regularly due to being a good central location and a large stadium, etc. Yes, compared to the cost of grass, it's more as a line item once it's due for replacement. However, the value they've gotten out of their stadium has been night and day compared to grass.
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Old 08-09-17, 10:17 PM
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Cost/benefit analysis is not so clear cut, depending on the size of the school.
If you can afford it, it's worth every penny. Athens had many seasons they couldn't play at home towards the end of the season so we had to use Ohio University. Field turned into dirt
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Old 08-09-17, 10:33 PM
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That'll hopefully be for next season. There's also supposed to be a new locker room/concession/restroom/possibly wrestling facility built on the grounds as well. It would service both the stadium and the new track and field facility being built adjacent to the stadium.

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That's awesome! Now as for Coldwater, we just built new locker rooms that can also accommodate Wrestling mats, batting cages, Etc and renovated restrooms. We did a survey earlier in the year about Field Turf but felt that it was best not to ask the community for more donations for a little while so maybe 8 years down the road Coldwater will get turf.
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Old 08-09-17, 11:07 PM
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Lancaster High Schools Fulton Field is grass....nice thick long grass


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Hoping that it will stay that way. If nothing else, a nice wet and muddy Fulton Field in October is a pillar of Central Ohio football.
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Old 08-09-17, 11:17 PM
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Suburban League - National:
Brecksville - artificial
North Royalton - artificial
Twinsburg - artificial
Hudson - artificial
Wadsworth - artificial
Nordonia - artificial
Stow - not sure
Cuyahoga Falls - grass (unless they switched in the last year)

CVC - Chagrin:
Beachwood - artificial
Chagrin Falls - artificial
Geneva - artificial (at SPIRE)
P. Harvey - artificial (share with Lake Erie College)
Orange - artificial
Perry (Lake) - artificial
West G - artificial
Wickliffe - grass

CVC - Valley:
Berkshire - grass
Cardinal - grass
Fairport - grass
Richmond Hts - grass
Kirtland - grass
Hawken - artificial
Cuyahoga Hts - artificial
Independence - artificial

GCC:
Mentor - artificial
Shaker - artificial
Euclid - moving to artificial this year
Solon - artificial
Brunswick - artificial
Medina - artificial
Strongsville - artificial
Elyria - moving to artificial this year or next year

WRC:
Brush - artificial
Mayfield - artificial
Riverside - grass (I think)
Madison - grass
Will. South - artificial, new this year
Eastlake North - artificial, new this year
Kenston - artificial
Chardon - artificial

east side private's not in league: University School - artificial; Gilmour - artificial


Riverside is installing turf this summer


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Old 08-10-17, 12:27 AM
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May have missed it. If so, my bad.

Hubbard - turf

Thanks for cost/benefit discussion. I have been wondering about that.
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Old 08-10-17, 06:52 AM
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That's awesome! Now as for Coldwater, we just built new locker rooms that can also accommodate Wrestling mats, batting cages, Etc and renovated restrooms. We did a survey earlier in the year about Field Turf but felt that it was best not to ask the community for more donations for a little while so maybe 8 years down the road Coldwater will get turf.
Less of a rush for Coldwater and the other MAC schools to acquire turf since there are no soccer teams playing 1 or 2 games a week to add wear and tear to a grass surface.

My school's stadium saw ridiculous amounts of usage in the late '90s before the decision was made to renovate the stadium and get turf (the stadium renovations were going to happen with or without turf):
- Varsity Football
- JV Football
- Freshman Football
- Boys Varsity Soccer
- Boys JV Soccer
- Girls Varsity Soccer
- Girls JV Soccer
- Multiple Jr. High Football games every Sunday
- St. Thomas Aquinas HS Varsity Football

With that amount of usage, the field had no prayer of lasting past midseason.

Turf's great stuff, but I will say this: definitely have a plan in place to replace it whenever the original turf wears out. It's easier to get donors excited about putting up money for something new than it is to get them excited to donate money to replace something.
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Old 08-10-17, 07:15 AM
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Cost/benefit analysis is not so clear cut, depending on the size of the school.
I'd think it would be fairly easy to calculate. Assuming a 10-year lifespan of the artificial turf, take one/tenth of the cost for it, and compare it to how much you spend each year on prepping and maintaining a grass field

Other factors which can make it more clear-cut:

- if you can get donations and sponsorships to pay for the artificial turf (I believe OHSAA allows one spot on the field for a corporate ad)

- less wear-and-tear means increased opportunity to host more events (football, of course, all the way down to Pee-wee), Little League baseball, soccer tournaments - all of which generate more revenue from admission and concessions.
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I have asked the coaches at Lancaster about getting turf and they say they don't want it. They actually prefer playing on natural grass
Nothing wrong with that. Each school has to determine what they want out of the deal.

In central Ohio, my beloved Hamilton Township switched from grass to the Tiger Turf artificial brand in 2007 - and we hosted our first tourney game in November of that year, and each year since, including one state semi-final.

We just had it replaced with a new rug last month (not sure if it's the same brand). We got a good 10 years use out of it. During that time we had Little League tournaments on that field, and a local minor-league team has used it as their practice facility.

Bloom Carroll, next to Lancaster, had artificial turf installed in the last two years, and is now hosting tourney games.

I know Canal Winchester went that route around 2010 when they were in the Mid-State League Buckeye. I don't know if any other MSL-B teams have artificial turf or not.
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Old 08-10-17, 07:53 AM
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Cost/benefit analysis is not so clear cut, depending on the size of the school.
I never mentioned the cost aspect, I believe as others have stated here that usage is the key benefit. Looking at Mr Slippery's list you can also add lacrosse and even some diamond sports use a football field w/ turf to practice on in the early spring because in Ohio during March and April most of their fields are just a step above a bog.
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Old 08-10-17, 08:11 AM
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Triway High School has turf.
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Old 08-10-17, 09:09 AM
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May have missed it. If so, my bad.

Hubbard - turf

Thanks for cost/benefit discussion. I have been wondering about that.
Hubbard has some of tge nicest turf in the area. Poland too. Girard is garbage, needs redone.
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Old 08-10-17, 09:25 AM
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I never mentioned the cost aspect...
Right, which is why saying
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in practice field turf is the only smart way to go
is incomplete without considering the cost.

I have nothing against turf fields, but at least for schools in our area (with no soccer, lacrosse, peewee football, small colleges, etc) they just don't make sense.
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Barberton's grass is in pretty bad shape. They have a turf committee in place and have received a lot of pledges towards new turf.
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Old 08-10-17, 10:49 AM
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Cleveland Heights football field is turf,it was built in 2014.the newly renovated high school will open this year on Aug 21

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I never mentioned the cost aspect, I believe as others have stated here that usage is the key benefit. Looking at Mr Slippery's list you can also add lacrosse and even some diamond sports use a football field w/ turf to practice on in the early spring because in Ohio during March and April most of their fields are just a step above a bog.
My school's diamond sports are on the football turf when their fields are unplayable. In past years, they would've practiced in the gym, but the gym was redone a few years ago and is now off limits to nearly everything except the sports that use it regularly (volleyball and basketball). My school has had lacrosse for 6 years now. Having turf made it an easier decision to offer lacrosse. The old grass field in the stadium was usually roped off during the spring. I know of at least one school that keeps their turf barricaded during the spring.
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Every school in the Three Rivers Athletic Conference that has a stadium, has turf. Toledo St. Francis plays their home games at the University of Toledo Glass Bowl which is also turf. So all TRAC schools home fields are turf.
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Allen East has turf that was put in last year (summer '16). It may be the smallest (D6) public school in the state with turf. The old grass field was just in too bad of shape. It's beautiful.
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Old 08-10-17, 07:28 PM
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Less of a rush for Coldwater and the other MAC schools to acquire turf since there are no soccer teams playing 1 or 2 games a week to add wear and tear to a grass surface.

My school's stadium saw ridiculous amounts of usage in the late '90s before the decision was made to renovate the stadium and get turf (the stadium renovations were going to happen with or without turf):
- Varsity Football
- JV Football
- Freshman Football
- Boys Varsity Soccer
- Boys JV Soccer
- Girls Varsity Soccer
- Girls JV Soccer
- Multiple Jr. High Football games every Sunday
- St. Thomas Aquinas HS Varsity Football

With that amount of usage, the field had no prayer of lasting past midseason.

Turf's great stuff, but I will say this: definitely have a plan in place to replace it whenever the original turf wears out. It's easier to get donors excited about putting up money for something new than it is to get them excited to donate money to replace something.
Agreed. Coldwater has had our girls soccer program move their games to Cavalier Stadium the past 2 years though.
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